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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shots-fired-at-boxing-weighin-in-dublin-hotel-34427111.html

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Atlantic Dawn

Gardaí were looking today for information about a BMW leaving the scene, they were also looking for information about a BMW found burnt out. Could the 2 be linked I wonder??? Sherlock Holmes would probably say yes.

sabat

bajer101 wrote: »

He said it during an interview on the Pat Kenny Show on Newstalk this morning. I hate giving him any credence, but he might be right about this. I can't see Patrick turning, but the dissie with the flat cap was caught full on.

If Williams really said that he's even stupider and less informed than I thought. There's zero chance of someone being given a deal on a murder charge. How does that even make sense when murder is the most serious crime on the statute books? They give up two slam dunk life convictions to maybe have a chance of getting someone on trial for ordering it or drug smuggling? No judge or minister would sign off on that in a million years-the Regency Hotel was all over the news worldwide.

Tilly

bubblypop wrote: »

Ever hear of forensics?
Do you want gardai to collect all evidence? That has to be done in daylight.

Of course I have, in fact the other side of my family were doing that.

It's still disgusting to leave somebody dead in a car all night when his wife, daughter, son and family couldn't be with him. I hope you never lose anyone in this way or in general

sabat

Tilly wrote: »

Of course I have, in fact the other side of my family were doing that.

It's still disgusting to leave somebody dead in a car all night when his wife, daughter, son and family couldn't be with him. I hope you never lose anyone in this way or in general

Yes, following best police practice is disgusting. They probably did it on purpose just to annoy the family, or maybe they were just being lazy. And you hope the other poster never "loses anyone in general"-unless he's from a line of immortal gods I don't see this happening.

Tilly

sabat wrote: »

Yes, following best police practice is disgusting. They probably did it on purpose just to annoy the family, or maybe they were just being lazy. And you hope the other poster never "loses anyone in general"-unless he's from a line of immortal gods I don't see this happening.

hey I've a load of plastic here, wanna wrap it all crooked the way your sentences are doing? I won't be replying to your shíte again.

[Deleted User]

Tilly wrote: »

Of course I have, in fact the other side of my family were doing that.

It's still disgusting to leave somebody dead in a car all night when his wife, daughter, son and family couldn't be with him. I hope you never lose anyone in this way or in general

So you prefer if the state let you take the body away there & then & didn't bother their arse to collect evidence?
You don't care if they can find the people responsible??

Tilly

bubblypop wrote: »

So you prefer if the state let you take the body away there & then & didn't bother their arse to collect evidence?
You don't care if they can find the people responsible??

Of course I do it's just very hard on the family for the body to be left there overnight.

Would you not like it to be done quicker if it was your family?

[Deleted User]

Tilly wrote: »

Of course I do it's just very hard on the family for the body to be left there overnight.

Would you not like it to be done quicker if it was your family?

I would like it to be done right.
So that every bit of evidence that could be taken would be.
If that meant not getting a body back for a few days, then so be it.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

...losing a brother for me would be the nuclear option...

Would you not just organise a search and rescue?

Tilly

bubblypop wrote: »

I would like it to be done right.
So that every bit of evidence that could be taken would be.
If that meant not getting a body back for a few days, then so be it.

I'm pissing against the wind here....

bajer101

I've been hearing a lot of conflicting stories about all of this. It's as if there is a PR war going on! I do know that the Gardai have issued GIMs to people on the Hutch side who have had nothing to do with Hutch, or crime for a long time. Whereas, on the Kinahan side only the obvious players like Paul Rice have received GIMs. The Kinahans seem to be running around threatening everyone and taking out soft targets, while The Monk is sitting back. He has been meeting with George Mitchell and then returning home and leaving his key in his hall door like he doesn't give a fúck. It's hard to know what is really going on.

On the on side you have the Kinahans, who are now run by a younger crew and have no qualms about murdering older, "respected" old school lads, and just generally threatening everyone. On the other side is Gerry Hutch, who is calmer and also extremely intelligent. People both inside and outside of Ireland are being dragged into this and will maybe have to pick a side. The serious money men will want it finished as all these murders are just bad for business.

Tilly

On the plus side, if there's someone you don't like tell the Kinahans that they're part of the Hutch gang

Supernintento Chalmers

Tilly wrote: »

On the plus side, if there's someone you don't like tell the Kinahans that they're part of the Hutch gang

It was only a matter of time

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/garda-tell-the-viper-foley-of-threat-to-his-life-34571256.html

Gardaí tell 'The Viper' Foley of threat to his life

Is there anyone who hasn't tried to kill him?

SEPT 23 1989

Ak 47s and 500 rounds of ammunition discovered in Ratoath last night It's being linked to the fued

3 men in custody

macnug

Tilly wrote:

It's disgusting. You get shot in the head 5 times and are left over night outside in a tent. That's fÃºcking disgusting. Family or not, that's disgraceful.

I've seen this a few times with murders when I lived in Dublin, it is horrible but I think the reason is they prefer to do the forensics when its bright out.

The flying mouse

sabat wrote: »

If Williams really said that he's even stupider and less informed than I thought. There's zero chance of someone being given a deal on a murder charge. How does that even make sense when murder is the most serious crime on the statute books? They give up two slam dunk life convictions to maybe have a chance of getting someone on trial for ordering it or drug smuggling? No judge or minister would sign off on that in a million years-the Regency Hotel was all over the news worldwide.

If the state think they can get more and bigger convictions in letting one get away they will do it and have done so,The state looks at the bigger picture, as well as below there is also the time when they let go the lad who was stealing cars for the rIRA involved in the omagh bombing,he got a pass to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bowden_(criminal)

Granted complete immunity from prosecution for the murder of Guerin, he was the only witness to give evidence against all four drug gang members at their trials in the Special Criminal Court: Patrick Holland; Paul Ward; Brian Meehan; and John Gilligan.[1]

Mongfinder General

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

It was only a matter of time

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/garda-tell-the-viper-foley-of-threat-to-his-life-34571256.html

Gardaí tell 'The Viper' Foley of threat to his life

Is there anyone who hasn't tried to kill him?

This fella will live to 100 years old. He must have a horseshoe stuck up his hole he's that lucky.

[Deleted User]

bajer101 wrote: »

I've been hearing a lot of conflicting stories about all of this. It's as if there is a PR war going on! I do know that the Gardai have issued GIMs to people on the Hutch side who have had nothing to do with Hutch, or crime for a long time. Whereas, on the Kinahan side only the obvious players like Paul Rice have received GIMs. The Kinahans seem to be running around threatening everyone and taking out soft targets, while The Monk is sitting back. He has been meeting with George Mitchell and then returning home and leaving his key in his hall door like he doesn't give a fúck. It's hard to know what is really going on.

On the on side you have the Kinahans, who are now run by a younger crew and have no qualms about murdering older, "respected" old school lads, and just generally threatening everyone. On the other side is Gerry Hutch, who is calmer and also extremely intelligent. People both inside and outside of Ireland are being dragged into this and will maybe have to pick a side. The serious money men will want it finished as all these murders are just bad for business.

Seriously, which side of the fued are you on?

That_Guy

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Ak 47s and 500 rounds of ammunition discovered in Ratoath last night It's being linked to the fued

3 men in custody

I think I read that 1 was being held in Ashbourne Garda Station.

Not liking how close they're getting to my doorstep.

[Deleted User]

Tilly wrote: »

I'm pissing against the wind here....

Think you're just pissing!
Your argument reads like a caller to the phoneshow!

R P McMurphy

bajer101 wrote: »

I've been hearing a lot of conflicting stories about all of this. It's as if there is a PR war going on! I do know that the Gardai have issued GIMs to people on the Hutch side who have had nothing to do with Hutch, or crime for a long time. Whereas, on the Kinahan side only the obvious players like Paul Rice have received GIMs. The Kinahans seem to be running around threatening everyone and taking out soft targets, while The Monk is sitting back. He has been meeting with George Mitchell and then returning home and leaving his key in his hall door like he doesn't give a fúck. It's hard to know what is really going on.

On the on side you have the Kinahans, who are now run by a younger crew and have no qualms about murdering older, "respected" old school lads, and just generally threatening everyone. On the other side is Gerry Hutch, who is calmer and also extremely intelligent. People both inside and outside of Ireland are being dragged into this and will maybe have to pick a side. The serious money men will want it finished as all these murders are just bad for business.

So intelligent that anyone that is related to him or knows him well is likely a target to be murdered

RainyDay

Simply Red wrote: »

3 arrested in Ratoath after gardai seize AK47s

Just how many AK47 are out there from the Regency raid?

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2016/03/10/donegal-man-arrested-and-ak47s-seized-in-regency-hotel-murder-probe/

bajer101 wrote: »

As loath as I am to quote Paul Williams, he may be right about this. He said that members of the Regency hit team were turning State's evidence. This points to that. A few of them were caught "bang to rights" - Patrick and Tyrone dissident especially.

It's a fairly standard technique to stir things up among the remaining gangs. Remember the Gardai doing the 'Elmo is a Rat' graffiti in Love/Hate?

It backfired spectacularly in Belgium. Within a day of the prosecutor announcing that one guy was cooperating nicely, 34 people were killed in two follow up attacks.

Williams is playing or participating in dangerous games...

coniosumadre

I'm far from believing half of the rubbish that the papers write/make up to sell copies, but todays star alleging that Duggan was trying to recruit dissidents from the north to side with the Hutches in recent days so maybe not completely unrelated.

flanzer

RainyDay wrote: »

Williams is playing or participating in dangerous games...

He can afford to. He's under 24/7 Garda protection

[Deleted User]

flanzer wrote: »

He can afford to. He's under 24/7 Garda protection

No he isn't, hasn't been for years.

flanzer

bubblypop wrote: »

No he isn't, hasn't been for years.

I can tell you now, he is

Ash.J.Williams

flanzer wrote: »

I can tell you now, he is

Not this week

Ash.J.Williams

Tilly wrote: »

Of course I do it's just very hard on the family for the body to be left there overnight.

Would you not like it to be done quicker if it was your family?

His family at a good life.... Left over night in a car is a small price to pay

[Deleted User]

flanzer wrote: »

I can tell you now, he is

I can tell you now, he is not.

arayess

R P McMurphy wrote: »

So intelligent that anyone that is related to him or knows him well is likely a target to be murdered

wtf does that comment even mean?

if you are saying that he can't protect people...people need to protect themselves.