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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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freedominacup

whelan2 wrote: »

put eprinex pour on a couple of milking heifers on monday, 1 of them is gone right back in her milk, is this normal?

With one of those pour ons getting the dose right is critical. Not sure if it's eprinex but if it is overdosing can easily happen and the reaction can be pretty severe. Vet maybe.

visatorro

Was keeping four out of the tank because they had a touch of mastitis so I thought they'd be high scc. They are less than 100k and I've four millionaire's with no trace of mastitis. One of them is 9999k!!

Timmaay

visatorro wrote: »

Was keeping four out of the tank because they had a touch of mastitis so I thought they'd be high scc. They are less than 100k and I've four millionaire's with no trace of mastitis. One of them is 9999k!!

Tank SCC went to 360 3collections ago, I was lucky I'd milk recorded Last week, and results came that day, 4 millionaires, kept them all outa the tank to feed calves and back to 99 this morning! If only all problems were solved that easy. 2 of them heifers tho, putting both as 3spinners as the quarters were poor anyways.

whelan2

milk tank wont wash, says theres not enough water. Theres loads, we changed back to our own well on monday from the mains, reckon theres some dirt from the change over in the filters on it. Back to everyday collections here again now

blackdog1

whelan2 wrote: »

milk tank wont wash, says theres not enough water. Theres loads, we changed back to our own well on monday from the mains, reckon theres some dirt from the change over in the filters on it. Back to everyday collections here again now

Had that problem with my new packo tank. Had a small tank feeding the water boiler and had to connect it directly into mains as water pressure was too low

farmertipp

whelan2 wrote: »

milk tank wont wash, says theres not enough water. Theres loads, we changed back to our own well on monday from the mains, reckon theres some dirt from the change over in the filters on it. Back to everyday collections here again now

Iv a Mueller. .had same problem. .there is a small filter at end of pipe blocked I'd say..

blackdog1

Anyone using a product called encrypt? It's a dose for crypto and other scours and half the price of halacour made by a company called mervue

Buford T. Justice XIX

blackdog1 wrote: »

Anyone using a product called encrypt? It's a dose for crypto and other scours and half the price of halacour made by a company called mervue

This?

http://www.ballylurganhardware.com/products/encrypt#

Contains activated clays.

What are 'activated clays' and how do they treat crypto?

jaymla627

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

This?

http://www.ballylurganhardware.com/products/encrypt#

Contains activated clays.

What are 'activated clays' and how do they treat crypto?

It's a expensive mineral drench by the looks of it, halocur is the only proven method of keeping crypto at bay, theirs actually a vaccine in America too that contains free dried killed cryto eggs that's mixed in with milk and feed for the first seven days, but god knows when it will be available here

blackdog1

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

This?

http://www.ballylurganhardware.com/products/encrypt#

Contains activated clays.

What are 'activated clays' and how do they treat crypto?

That's it. It's just out of the trial stage and with good results so far my vet said. Think it's has activated charcoal and other things in it. I have halacour so won't be using it for a while

whelan2

freedominacup wrote: »

With one of those pour ons getting the dose right is critical. Not sure if it's eprinex but if it is overdosing can easily happen and the reaction can be pretty severe. Vet maybe.

Rda. Just finished

whelan2

blackdog1 wrote: »

Had that problem with my new packo tank. Had a small tank feeding the water boiler and had to connect it directly into mains as water pressure was too low

Tank man came and filters on water line to tank were blocked

whelan2

Scanned autumn calvers today. All heifers in calf. 3 cows not in calf. One of them was a carryover so will get gate. Happy enough. Wrecked.

Dawggone

There's whispers going around that a dairy cow with BSE in France...not good in a nation that values provenance.

Edit. May be a good time to be producing white meat.

RightTurnClyde

Dawggone wrote: »

There's whispers going around that a dairy cow with BSE in France...not good in a nation that values provenance.

Edit. May be a good time to be producing white meat.

I think there was a one off case in Ireland sometime last summer aswell. I can't remember the details, but nothing really came of it. I don't think the farm was even destocked, just the cow and her progeny. One of those 1 in a million occurrences.

Dawggone

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

I think there was a one off case in Ireland sometime last summer aswell. I can't remember the details, but nothing really came of it. I don't think the farm was even destocked, just the cow and her progeny. One of those 1 in a million occurrences.

I was talking with a supplier of high end beef to restaurants last night and all sales of beef have been stopped this week...

visatorro

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

I think there was a one off case in Ireland sometime last summer aswell. I can't remember the details, but nothing really came of it. I don't think the farm was even destocked, just the cow and her progeny. One of those 1 in a million occurrences.

wasn't it a ten year old cow that was imported?

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

wasn't it a ten year old cow that was imported?

I cant fully remember the details but the way the media treated the event was shocking, felt so sorry for the family involved.

whelan2

scanned a cow yesterday, she was in heat last week, just put her in so he could check her out . She is 3 months in calf, marks from her heat last week are still on her. Sometimes if they showed heat like that I would just cull them. Worth the few euro to get her checked

visatorro

bloody hell. this was the realisation kicking in about milk price. all the bills, slurry, fert, extra labour, fencing, vet. iv more milk litres with higher solids leaving than this time last year and theres nothing left out of the cheque for the month!!!! only lad making money is the milkman. also lost a few extra calves which as well as being disheartening, isn't kind to the phoca. lads do shout on about go on about cash flow and bull calves. sure if I had saved five bull calves wouldn't I have 500e now for something.

also im fairly sure I remember stan buying liquid quota last year. seems to have been a good call. whatever about cost of winter production, its the only thing that's paying now, with glanbia anyway.

farmerjj

Thinking of trying a few different AI straws (breeds) with some fr cows this year, not interested in jersey straws, but maybe a mountbeller or semintenal (might be spelt wrong) for a change only a handful though, anyone try this before, and how they get on for milk after?

freedominacup

Dawggone wrote: »

I was talking with a supplier of high end beef to restaurants last night and all sales of beef have been stopped this week...

The word around here was the reason little or no cases of bse were found in France was due to the very high levels of jcb disease. ðŸ˜‰

keep going

visatorro wrote: »

bloody hell. this was the realisation kicking in about milk price. all the bills, slurry, fert, extra labour, fencing, vet. iv more milk litres with higher solids leaving than this time last year and theres nothing left out of the cheque for the month!!!! only lad making money is the milkman. also lost a few extra calves which as well as being disheartening, isn't kind to the phoca. lads do shout on about go on about cash flow and bull calves. sure if I had saved five bull calves wouldn't I have 500e now for something.

also im fairly sure I remember stan buying liquid quota last year. seems to have been a good call. whatever about cost of winter production, its the only thing that's paying now, with glanbia anyway.

Obviously you like I have just been looking at your statements,thought I had abit of cash around in the current account but when you alow whats for whats on the coop bill , theres shag all.then again things are always tight at this time of year.

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

scanned a cow yesterday, she was in heat last week, just put her in so he could check her out . She is 3 months in calf, marks from her heat last week are still on her. Sometimes if they showed heat like that I would just cull them. Worth the few euro to get her checked

I had one calve last Sunday to AI and she had 2 repeats to AI after going in calf and one service to a bull as well.

Always get them scanned/handled before I sell them, there's always a few surprises in them.

blackdog1

farmerjj wrote: »

Thinking of trying a few different AI straws (breeds) with some fr cows this year, not interested in jersey straws, but maybe a mountbeller or semintenal (might be spelt wrong) for a change only a handful though, anyone try this before, and how they get on for milk after?

I always wanted to try Normandy cows . Had a few bull calves crosses on Holstein cows and they were lovely big docile animals. It's a pity I never got a heifer out of the straws . I've seen some lovely Normande cows in France.

Brown Podzol

farmerjj wrote: »

Thinking of trying a few different AI straws (breeds) with some fr cows this year, not interested in jersey straws, but maybe a mountbeller or semintenal (might be spelt wrong) for a change only a handful though, anyone try this before, and how they get on for milk after?

Listen to this fellow. He's says similar milk, better solids and much better health.

http://youtu.be/1LDsjqpvhKA

kowtow

blackdog1 wrote: »

I always wanted to try Normandy cows . Had a few bull calves crosses on Holstein cows and they were lovely big docile animals. It's a pity I never got a heifer out of the straws . I've seen some lovely Normande cows in France.

Great cheese producers.

stanflt

visatorro wrote: »

bloody hell. this was the realisation kicking in about milk price. all the bills, slurry, fert, extra labour, fencing, vet. iv more milk litres with higher solids leaving than this time last year and theres nothing left out of the cheque for the month!!!! only lad making money is the milkman. also lost a few extra calves which as well as being disheartening, isn't kind to the phoca. lads do shout on about go on about cash flow and bull calves. sure if I had saved five bull calves wouldn't I have 500e now for something.

also im fairly sure I remember stan buying liquid quota last year. seems to have been a good call. whatever about cost of winter production, its the only thing that's paying now, with glanbia anyway.

yeah bought some but couldnt get enough-money tight everywhere this year

bogman_bass

farmerjj wrote: »

Thinking of trying a few different AI straws (breeds) with some fr cows this year, not interested in jersey straws, but maybe a mountbeller or semintenal (might be spelt wrong) for a change only a handful though, anyone try this before, and how they get on for milk after?

Ayrshires? lovely udders

whelan2

bogman_bass wrote: »

Ayrshires? lovely udders

is there sexed semen for ayrshires? Decided to try norwegian red here and got 3 bull calves:mad: