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Cork City an increasingly dangerous place

rob316

I love my city, I work and live in the city center and wouldn't change it but every single day I'm hearing things that have happened and seen myself an increasing level of violence in the city.

Walk down the street today and I challenge you to find a Garda presence on the street, you just wont find one.

I know its a bit tabloid but turn on Neil Prendeville in the morning it paints a very bleak and dangerous place. Young women been assaulted by men, people getting jabbed by needles left on toilet bowls in public places, a couple mugged by a man with a machete, kids picking up needles left in parks.

Junkies and violent offenders have free reign of the place.

When will enough be enough, parents are afraid to leave their children go into the city.

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xabi wrote: »

What was I thinking, sure what's the harm in a bit of puke, sure we were just having fun. I'm all for a bit of craic, I just don't want to see any of your bodily fluids on the streets the next day.

Sure, but now we have gone from Cork being a "dangerous" place, to Cork being slightly untidy :rolleyes:

xabi

goochy wrote: »

I wonder if some of the contributors on this forum going on about what they find on the streets on a w/ end morning are perhaps not local to this country and come from places where everything is perfect but very bland and boring and no one has fun - drinks too much the odd time and maybe pukes up ?

I am all for having a clean city but we are not Switzerland or Singapore and if someone thinks we should be like them is in the wrong place.

What was I thinking, sure what's the harm in a bit of puke, sure we were just having fun. I'm all for a bit of craic, I just don't want to see any of your bodily fluids on the streets the next day.

goochy wrote: »

love winding up my Dub mates about what a kip it is - they like cork but still think Dublins great - Dubs think junkies being all around the place is a normal thing rather than it being really scary.

As a Corkonian living in Dublin, most junkies really aren't dangerous.

Sure I wouldn't like to live with one and their begging can be annoying, but most really aren't "dangerous", just annoying mostly.

BTW the large number of junkies publicly present in Ireland is just a sad reflection of our governments failed policy towards dealing with the root cause of drug and alcohol addiction.

Elemonator wrote: »

I dare you to come to Dublin and walk around at night, you won't remember what safety is!

I do that about 3 nights a week while socialising in Dublin city center. My girlfriend use to walk home alone every night around 2 to 3am around Parnell Street. Neither of us have ever experienced any problems.

Blackie Grey wrote: »

Gardai had to use pepper spray the other night to break up a scrap female garda assaulted -cork city center

Haha and you think that is dangerous, let me tell you what living in a really dangerous city is like.

My Brazillian friend lives in a city about the same size as Cork. Her sister had two of her classmates kidnapped from right outside the front door of the school into a van. They were raped and only released two weeks later once their families paid a ransom. This incident didn't even make the local city news!

People who think Cork is dangerous are laughable. You all have no idea how good we in Ireland have it. We live in one of the safest countries in the world with some of the lowest crime levels in the world.

We do have some issues around alcohol and drug addiction and they should be tackled. But other then taking the normal precautions you would take in any European city, there really isn't much to be afraid of.

Honestly people here are coming across as extremely sheltered. People should do a lot more travelling and they would discover how lucky we have it here in Ireland.

leahyl

CHealy wrote: »

- every city with pop. of over 100,000 every weekend, get a life.

No need for the last part. Cut it out.

j8wk2feszrnpao

opus wrote: »

I moved to a street just off Shandon around 1.5 years ago and find it grand. Would say I walked around there around 20 times at various times of the day & night before making the move to check out the area.

Can you confirm if those poor Italian tourists that were seen walking up Shandon Street with selfie sticks actually made it out alive :P

Elemonator

I dare you to come to Dublin and walk around at night, you won't remember what safety is!

goochy

I wonder if some of the contributors on this forum going on about what they find on the streets on a w/ end morning are perhaps not local to this country and come from places where everything is perfect but very bland and boring and no one has fun - drinks too much the odd time and maybe pukes up ?

I am all for having a clean city but we are not Switzerland or Singapore and if someone thinks we should be like them is in the wrong place.

goochy

And at least it was broken up - outside voodoo / grafton seems to be main place but always lots of Guards around - maybe some people aren't able to spot unmarked cars.

CHealy

Blackie Grey wrote: »

Gardai had to use pepper spray the other night to break up a scrap female garda assaulted -cork city center

Gardai/Police had to use pepper spray the other night to break up a scrap female garda assaulted - every city with pop. of over 100,000 every weekend, get a life.

Blackie Grey

Gardai had to use pepper spray the other night to break up a scrap female garda assaulted -cork city center

goochy

I am a Dub living in cork many years , wouldn't be slightest bit nervous in cork at any time and think theres good garda presence at w end.

love winding up my Dub mates about what a kip it is - they like cork but still think Dublins great - Dubs think junkies being all around the place is a normal thing rather than it being really scary.

was getting money out of atm outside at of blanchardstown shopping centre one summers evening and there was a junkie coming towards me - had to get my mate to watch my back. Really made me realise how I take peace of mind for granted in cork and how its not just confined to city centre.

stefanovich

gimmick wrote:

Ya, the name stab city is there as a joke.

Nice to see you using a nickname from the 80s. Things have changed.

Ice Maiden

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

According to this Ireland ranks as the fourth safest country in the world.

Cork is probably one the safest cities in Ireland.

You're living in one of the safest cities on the planet.

Yep.

Of course there will be an element of scumbaggery - I don't think anyone is denying this - but to say the city is a disaster zone is confusion between standard city trouble and disaster zone.

Yeah opus those areas are grand during the day but I would be wary during the night.

Those feckin radio shows and they're scaremongering.

opus

Ice Maiden wrote: »

People demoralised to the brink of self destruction?

Shandon and Gurranabraher (some of it) are rough areas - always have been.
I thought the opening poster was referring to the centre of town though?

Overall, Cork is safe. Calling it a dangerous city is setting the bar extremely low for what constitutes dangerous.

I moved to a street just off Shandon around 1.5 years ago and find it grand. Would say I walked around there around 20 times at various times of the day & night before making the move to check out the area.

Before that lived near Douglas St which was fine as well although a bit noisier cause of all the drinking groups that have a love affair with the back of the old FAS building.

etoughguy

You'd see the odd tracksuit wearing scumbag around the place all right especially during the day time but I don't regard town as dangerous, no sir I do not.
Of course there's a chance you could be unlucky and meet a right piece of crap at 2am walking down douglas street or somewhere but overall in my 40 years I haven't seen alot of trouble in the city
I saw alot more in 5 years living in Dublin which is a kip (says he to stir the dubs reading this!)

jimgoose

Can't agree with this. Aside from the odd shower of drunken bahwillahs Cork is as relaxed and as easy-going a place as you'll find in Western Europe in this day-and-age. I would say that some people aren't careful enough with important personal items like phones, wallets and such, and should probably be a little more wary when out-and-about at night.

magentis

I have lived and worked in Cork city and Dublin city for 15 years each approx.Cork city is by far a much safer area.I never had any issues in Cork at all,and I would regularly frequent the city centre between 8pm and 4am.

Red King

I'm from Limerick and I visit Cork every so often.

Have always felt that there was less of a visible scumbag element in Cork city in the shopping areas in comparison to Limerick. Can't really speak of the city at night. However it sounds to me that it is similar to the issues in Limerick - a certain rough element in the city whose presence makes other people feel intimidated which is not helped by a complete and utter lack of visible garda presence.

It is not an issue that is in any way exclusive to Cork though, it is the whole country. And 99% of the time, you will be fine even if you do feel intimidated. That doesn't make it any more acceptable for us as a society to tolerate these scumbags but until the justice system is given a complete and utter overhaul there will not be much of a change to the way things are I am afraid.

The best you can do is challenge the local politicians about adequate resources for the gardai, an end to lenient suspended sentences for repeat offenders and demand that we build more jails, because they are badly needed.

Until that happens and we have a modern justice system and a modern well equipped police force with the support of the judiciary you can forget about anything changing.

xabi

razorblunt wrote: »

It generates content for them, increases listenership.

Fair enough, quite possible, but I don't listen to them, my experience is first hand.

razorblunt

xabi wrote: »

Why would they make it up?

It generates content for them, increases listenership.

leahyl

xabi wrote: »

I don't listen to any of that tripe, speak for yourself.......QUOTE]

Enough. If this gets personal, I'm closing the thread.

Ice Maiden

xabi wrote: »

Why would they make it up?

Of course they would - those programmes are trash. Trying to turn absolutely everything into "Oh God help us the world is terrible".

leahyl

testaccount123 wrote: »

............listenership generate advertising revenue.

Abuse won't be tolerated here, so don't do it again

Ice Maiden

xabi wrote: »

Trust me, it's not safe.

They were referring to the city centre, which really really is safe. I mean, really is. It's not s civic pride thing - it is my experience. God help someone who feels unsafe walking through the centre of Cork of an afternoon, is all I can say.

Feeling unsafe in Shandon - fair enough. At night though - still grand during the day.

Although, maybe men feel less safe because men are more targeted for violence?

xabi

razorblunt wrote: »

Does anyone or any story get properly challenged on these talk in shows?
I'm not saying they're all made up, but do they ring the local Garda station to verify if a report was made?

It just seems to be too easy for Prenders and PJ to talk about this stuff as if its fact. They are phone in shows after all so when they are completely reliant on stories their credibility takes a tumble.

Why would they make it up?

razorblunt

Does anyone or any story get properly challenged on these talk in shows?
I'm not saying they're all made up, but do they ring the local Garda station to verify if a report was made?

It just seems to be too easy for Prenders and PJ to talk about this stuff as if its fact. They are phone in shows after all so when they are completely reliant on stories their credibility takes a tumble.

xabi

Look, I like Cork and like living here, but you have to admit it has some problems, it is dirty and can be intimidating at night, no denying it.

j8wk2feszrnpao

xabi wrote: »

Your idea of cleanliness differs from mine obviously

I don't want any of your idea's if you think the city is a disaster zone.
Lack of cleanliness =/= fear.

/done

xabi

munstermagic11 wrote: »

I used to live in the city, and have been in there on a number of early mornings.
You need to live somewhere else. It's amazing you've survived this long.

Your idea of cleanliness differs from mine obviously

j8wk2feszrnpao

xabi wrote: »

Correct, head in early any Saturday morning and see for yourself. Maybe not blood all the time, but definitely piss and puke.

I used to live in the city, and have been in there on a number of early mornings.
You need to live somewhere else. It's amazing you've survived this long.