Base price wrote: » When we were feeding factory bulls/cows we would use either wheaten or oaten straw in the diet feeder for roughage. Both are cheap sources of roughage but I would not recommend them for young stock/calves.
Timmaay wrote: » What age do yas change calves over from the likes of gains startcalf ration to a nut? Early Feb born, eating the best part of a kg/day of it now.
kevthegaff wrote: » Is the z grazers fella with a class and new z grazers j,how are u finding it? Increase in yield/solids?
freedominacup wrote: » Edit to say we won't feed nuts to anything even if they were coming for free. You have no notion what is in them.
mahoney_j wrote: » That the man Kev ,massively impressed ,huge intakes of grass milk up over 1.5 ltrs no solids results this week .cutting field of Italian with red clover then drawing me back his own grass .no silage for last 9 days .geazed grass by day and z grass by night .cows can go out to lie down if they wish .cruically it's buying me extra days on first rotation ,good job as growth is pratically zero
pedigree 6 wrote: » Shame on you freedom. There is a list on the delivery docket that comes with the load of nuts giving analytical constituents, composition,vitamins and compounds of trace elements, batch no of load, instructions for use, driver name, mill, UFAS no, etc, etc. Every mill has their facilities inspected and the feed can be tested anytime. I trust the makers to have what they print on the docket to be in the nut. I know what your saying you'd have full control in mixing your own feed/ration but not everyone has the facilities and space or feeders to make up their own ration plus i'm a lazy fecker and I like to get the nut blown into the bin and augered into the parlour. The shame on you part was tongue in cheek. You get them for free and give them to me.:D
Milked out wrote: » What would ye make of this for grass. Maize 23% Barley 20% Sugar beet pulp 20% Maize distillers 20 Hipro soya 8% Molasses 3% Vit and min 6% Would come to 14.5% p 30% starch and an NDF of 31.2% Would be feeding 4kgs,, no quotes yet.
Base price wrote: » mix pencils with crunch for a few days and increase the amount of pencils over a week until they are eating it.
Milked out wrote: » First quote in at 268 for a nut, do many of ye feed coarse thru parlour feeders? Would be worried about ingredients separating and extra dust in parlour aside from augurs blocking?
jaymla627 wrote: » Give mine lucerne here, get the horsey stuff in local co-op really high in fibre and palatable too they go mad for it
jack o shea wrote: » Lads is there any one shot only thing to give calves with that bloody rota virus,? Cows were vaccinated but calves are he'll to feed so bloody slow.differant one sick every 2nd day.
Brown Podzol wrote: » If it were me I would take out the distillers and up the maize and beet pulp, would drop protein to c.12%, but that's just me. Tell them you will give them the price of a litre of milk for a kilo of that.€240. Still just break even for the average cow, 1kg meal produces 1 litre of milk. There's a balance when adding molasses. Too much and it will bridge in the bin, too little and the degree of separation is too much. The only ingredient that caused problems for the augers here was Spanish beet pulp nuts. Big and hard.
mahoney_j wrote: » Calm it down ,we had 4 months of constant rain and 10 days of dry but cold weather and we're still giving out.a couple of nice soft mild days in late March early April will transform the place .you could end up growing more grass in a week than the rest of March and Feb included .my first round has been extended to 07/04 through z grazing back Italian and red clover sward .cows get full whack grass at day and z grass with straw at night .no silage a week now and cows are absolutely flying .2 rounds of fert out (bag of urea and 2.5 bags 18 6 12 with s)and 2500/3 k gallons slurry .cows peeling the place and perfectly set up for a growth burst ..saying that I know Lots with first round ending within a week ton10 days who should be slowing rotation fast as they could end up feeding very heavy for 10/14 days due to not been flexible and reacting to afc and growth rates quicker
freedominacup wrote: » What milk urea have you atm and would it colour your thinking about pr %? Running in the low twenties here on a 16% ration. Sticking with the 16% for this load. Will look again in a fortnight. Getting a price on a 50/50 mix of soya hulls and barley for start of second round if fr don't improve. Will stick with the 16% in that case at 3-4kilos and use the hulls/barley mix at 3-5kg to bridge the gap. Plenty of decent 2014 first cut left. 76/78dmd but I think at that point there'll be issued getting them to put away 10kg dm of it. Was asked about bales for sale in co-op today. A good neighbour so I told him to get what he needed. Be glad to see some of them gone tbh. Good quality but soft. I wouldn't fancy their chances of being in good order by next autumn. If I got nothing for them he'll sort me some other way some other time. They'll be going out at a loss no matter what with what's available atm.
3 the square wrote: » any one sell fr bull calves lately ? what way are they going in the marts iv a few to sell .
pedigree 6 wrote: » Shame on you freedom. There is a list on the delivery docket that comes with the load of nuts giving analytical constituents, composition,vitamins and compounds of trace elements, batch no of load, instructions for use, driver name, mill, UFAS no, etc, etc. Every mill has their facilities inspected and the feed can be tested anytime.I trust the makers to have what they print on the docket to be in the nut. I know what your saying you'd have full control in mixing your own feed/ration but not everyone has the facilities and space or feeders to make up their own ration plus i'm a lazy fecker and I like to get the nut blown into the bin and augered into the parlour. The shame on you part was tongue in cheek. You get them for free and give them to me.:D
Milked out wrote: » Balls of a day here. Got cows into parlour and turned down heifer that was after calving as well. Closed the gates went to dairy to set up and there was the heifer down at back of yard. 20 mins of messing and watering the concrete and she gets up just as i bring loader to yard. Turn her back in to pen with calf and milk on. A touch of paralysis I'd say. Herd test today so finished milking and locked back dries in cubicle shed in order to hold milkers ahead of crush for for testing, come down to parlour yard and let the cows up and another cow down this time one bulling. Manage to get her into bucket of loader and out to field. Got vet to give her a shot as we tested her. Worked away thru cattle going fine and had 22 yearlings in outside yard only to arrive yo find they broke out to 30 acres of grass so spent another half hour rounding them up. Cow in field still down vet reckons torn muscle by the way leg is thrown. And to top it off another pen of calves starting to scour just as i thought i was clear of it. By fcuk if we go down Fri I'll become the devil incarnate
visatorro wrote: » Having a bad run here with different things, once it's outside the front door let it go to fook
