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PS4 Megathread 3.0

F1ngers

Don't know what I did to the last thread to mess it up for some.

So, PS4 stuff then.

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jimmytwotimes 2013

Hitman gonna be any good? Liked previous versions

Grahamer666

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Hitman gonna be any good? Liked previous versions

Have the first episode. Enjoying it a lot.

tok9

I've put some time into it myself, beat 3 bosses so far.

It's definitely a fun game if you're a souls fan. Possibly the best thing about it is how quick you can restart. There doesn't seem to be any loading in the game, when you die, you're back fighting again after a few short seconds.

The negatives I'd have are the hitboxes are little odd at times and I found the bosses to be a little cheap.Maybe it's because I'm playing with a character without a shield so my only option is to roll away but it can be a bit difficult to get an attack in.

Anyway I'd still highly recommend, I've had a lot of fun so far.

Varik

so PlayStation vr is €400 and out in October

Anyone know what the camera is going for used, or move for that matter.

J. Marston

Salt and Sanctuary is so bloody good.

Evade

Varik wrote: »

so PlayStation vr is €400 and out in October

Anyone know what the camera is going for used, or move for that matter.

Probably head tracking or motion controls.

This can't be right, can it? 1080p at 120Hz.
http://www.gamesradar.com/heres-what-comes-playstation-vr-box/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=grfb

RedXIV

Evade wrote: »

Probably head tracking or motion controls.

This can't be right, can it? 1080p at 120Hz.
http://www.gamesradar.com/heres-what-comes-playstation-vr-box/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=grfb

I think he meant what price you can buy them second hand.

And 1080p at 120Hz would be pretty standard for most tvs? The TV I bought 6 years ago supports 1080p at 200hz?

F1ngers

J. Marston wrote: »

Salt and Sanctuary is so bloody good.

It sure is.
Have been doing some jolly co-operation for the last hour with my son.

Best $18 I've spent in a long time.

Evade

RedXIV wrote: »

I think he meant what price you can buy them second hand.

I misread.

RedXIV wrote: »

And 1080p at 120Hz would be pretty standard for most tvs? The TV I bought 6 years ago supports 1080p at 200hz?

Seems like overkill for a PS4 which can only put out 1080p at 30Hz sometimes.

Doge

Evade wrote: »

I misread.

Seems like overkill for a PS4 which can only put out 1080p at 30Hz sometimes.

From what I remember The 120Hz is Interpolated so it they'll be aiming for a stable 60FPS in VR games.

Edit: this article breaks it down nicely:

http://www.roadtovr.com/sony-confirms-new-90hz-display-mode-for-playstation-vr-formerly-morpheus/

Varik

Apparently there'll be a bundle with the camera, so may get that as the prices used for the Camera or new aren't great.

[Deleted User]

Wait -- Hitman is being released episodically?

Huh?

Captain Chaos

Deleted User wrote: »

Wait -- Hitman is being released episodically?

Huh?

Yes, the full retail release will be January 2017 if you want to wait.

Varik

I was sure this was announced already or honestly it could have been one of the other VR headsets but they've said that the external processing unit can output a separate video to the TV in addition to un-vring what the guy with the headset sees.

Could be some cool asymmetrical gameplay.

MiskyBoyy

"This weekend race in Trackmania Turbo during our Open Beta on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One!

This Open Beta will start Friday March 18th at 2PM CET and will last until Monday 21st at 2PM CET. It will feature several tracks of the campaign, the online racing mode, and the Trackbuilder!"

[Deleted User]

Varik wrote: »

I was sure this was announced already or honestly it could have been one of the other VR headsets but they've said that the external processing unit can output a separate video to the TV in addition to un-vring what the guy with the headset sees.

Could be some cool asymmetrical gameplay.

I can't imagine it being the PS4 VR. I'd assume maybe the Vive or the Oculus. But I heard that the PS4 VR (PSVR? No idea what it's called anymore) will have it's own separate processing unit to the console itself, so it might be.

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

"This weekend race in Trackmania Turbo during our Open Beta on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One!

This Open Beta will start Friday March 18th at 2PM CET and will last until Monday 21st at 2PM CET. It will feature several tracks of the campaign, the online racing mode, and the Trackbuilder!"

Amazing news. Loved Trackmania in college!

Varik

Deleted User wrote: »

I can't imagine it being the PS4 VR. I'd assume maybe the Vive or the Oculus. But I heard that the PS4 VR (PSVR? No idea what it's called anymore) will have it's own separate processing unit to the console itself, so it might be.

It is the ps vr, just thought that feature WAS announced already.

Doge

Yes the PSVR can show a seperate screen that is not mirrored, on your monitor albeit at only 720p. Its capable of mirroring the VR display to your monitor also.
It sort of streams the video over usb to the HDMI port just like iPads and iPhones with the lightning port stream at a resolution close to 720p using a chip in the HDMI adapter cable (the old dock connector was capable of true hdmi output, not the case anymore as the lightning port is a glrorified USB 2.0 port)

You can see it 1 minute into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq5VVnsQgB8

This link will tell you all you need to know about the external Processing Unit:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-what-does-playstation-vr-external-processor-unit-actually-do

ERG89

http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053

Hoping these stories are BS. But it appears that both Sony & Microsoft are both considering a hardware upgrade already

MilesMorales1

Well it has been 3 years, so its not that bad.

Fakman87

ERG89 wrote: »

http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053

Hoping these stories are BS. But it appears that both Sony & Microsoft are both considering a hardware upgrade already

It wouldn't be the most surprising thing ever.

The current generation were underpowered on release and are woefully underpowered in 2016.

Flint Fredstone

Yeah, I don't see the problem at all. If people don't want to upgrade, they don't have to.

SharpCoder

not to mention the fact the hardware isn't really that custom anymore, so there shouldn't be an issue with backwards compatibility on any newer systems since they're all basically small pc's now.

CastorTroy

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Yeah, I don't see the problem at all. If people don't want to upgrade, they don't have to.

I think it's a bad idea because imagine you bought a PS4 to play Uncharted 4 and then they turn around and say it's coming to PS4 and PS4.5 and will run and play better on 4.5.
An example would be Perfect Dark on the N64 with regard the memory pak

Or more recently, how Xenoblade was exclusive to New 3DS.

So they risk alienating a lot of the user base who weren't expecting to have to get another new console until PS5 in a few years.

Personally I only got a PS4 before Christmas. If it was an add on like the memory pak and was a decent price, I may get it. But if they expect to sell a brand new console, then I won't be getting one.

murphyebass

If Sony and MS go with this move I reckon my next console will be a PC.

I've been considering moving PC direction for a while now and if there's going to be upgrading with consoles I may as well go PC.

I'd continue to buy the Nintendo consoles to have a living room rig but main gaming on PC would be the obvious choice for me.

Damien360

That has to be a nonsense story. It may be happening for the next generation in the usual planned cycle of 6 to 8 years.

The cost of developing games with more graphical power may be prohibitive. More rendering and more development.

Current 4K TV's have not yet made the impact in numbers to the end user yet. It would be questionable as to the real demand for this from end users at this moment. Remember how long we had the PS3/XB360 on standard scart cable before HD was truly affordable.

Game prices could be pushed past the consumer breaking point due to point 1 above and they could kill the golden goose. Neither MS or Sony want that situation.

All this will change in time but it is too soon for a new machine.

ERG89

CastorTroy wrote: »

I think it's a bad idea because imagine you bought a PS4 to play Uncharted 4 and then they turn around and say it's coming to PS4 and PS4.5 and will run and play better on 4.5.
An example would be Perfect Dark on the N64 with regard the memory pak

Or more recently, how Xenoblade was exclusive to New 3DS.

So they risk alienating a lot of the user base who weren't expecting to have to get another new console until PS5 in a few years.

Personally I only got a PS4 before Christmas. If it was an add on like the memory pak and was a decent price, I may get it. But if they expect to sell a brand new console, then I won't be getting one.

At least the 3DS had a second analogue stick but even that wasn't enough to tempt me. But f**k them for putting snes games only on it!
I have a ps4 about 2 years it's ok but I doubt I played it as much as my 360. A lot (not all) of my games are remasters, available on last gen & 3rd party. But looking forward to Mass Effect Andromeda & Uncharted 4.
Not a lot of titles delivered on their promise & often are buggy so by the time their fixed I'm not as enthusiastic to play it by the time it's fixed. I don't ever look at a game and bemoan it's graphics or think this needs VR. That's not the problem with current titles.
Like others I'd probably just buy a PC if the direction is VR & a PS4.5.
I'd rather they just release a ps5 as it'd be a significant upgrade for the few hundred I'm asked to shell out.

Captain Chaos

I'm not surprised this is happening and even suggested it would in the VR thread before I was shot down as a silly idea.

Simple fact is that the generation 8 consoles were recession machines, they have modest specs to stay at a low price point of €400.

The PS3 and Xbox 360 were €600 and €500. They were more powerful for their time than the PS4 or XB1.

There simply is no way these consoles can last as log as the last gen console did.

J Mysterio

Recession machines :pac:

Gonzo

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I'm not surprised this is happening and even suggested it would in the VR thread before I was shot down as a silly idea.

Simple fact is that the generation 8 consoles were recession machines, they have modest specs to stay at a low price point of €400.

The PS3 and Xbox 360 were €600 and €500. They were more powerful for their time than the PS4 or XB1.

There simply is no way these consoles can last as log as the last gen console did.

Very true. I have a PS4 since launch and I have to agree it's been disappointing in terms of graphics power and original games. The consoles are vastly underpowered at this stage. They struggle with current games 1080p/30fps and lowering to 900p is becoming more common with newer titles and I feel the situation is only gonna get more noticeable as developers push graphics. There is no way they are gonna get another 5-7 years out of these machines unless the games and resolution gets compromised more and more.