johnny122 wrote: » Lads. Is it too dry for urea do he think?
RightTurnClyde wrote: » Well, what are ye're opinions on the Commission's measures that were announced today?http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/commission-announce-measures-to-solve-dairy-crisis
darragh_haven wrote: » Am I totally illiterate or does it say that dairy farmers can get €15,000 per year ..... just for being dairy farmers!
kevthegaff wrote: » Is it state aid? I'm not that lucky:-)
jaymla627 wrote: » I reckon that's geared towards countries like France that are opting to pay out 10c/l per litre on every litre less a farmer produces in 2016 compared to 2015, covneys already came out and said Ireland won't be implementing that option. it's funny a caretaker Ag minister has such unilateral powers as to decide this on his own, spun some line of collectively how all irish dairy farmers are on the expansion bandwagon and wouldn't stand for having to cut supply, I'm sure their a nice % that would indeed like to take up something like above
Base price wrote: » I know a few elderly dairy farmers in my area who would jump at €15k. If they had the opportunity to avail of it they would probably take it.
jaymla627 wrote: » Would be more then elderly farmers I'd say, two guy's close enough to me are cutting back on numbers this year simply because the extra workload/costs associated with the higher stocking rates just weren't paying. These lads would be on wet ground granted but I'd say alot of guys in their shoes are thinking the same after the crap start to spring
darragh_haven wrote: » I'm buying a milk bucket and a jersey cow.... and a churn
Base price wrote: » I have feck all knowledge of operating a dairy operation. However anyone operating a business should not make rash judgements based on a post quota volatile price and seasonal inclement weather/ground conditions. The dairy farmers that I'm referring to milk between 15 to 30 cows. The only reason that they continue to milk is because they inherited the farm from their parents. A few are still milking in tie up byres with pipelines.
visatorro wrote: » Is there many lads like that left I wonder? Was a lad beside me with two hundred acres in a block, milking 50 cows in a tie up. He had a stroke. Son in law was thrown in at the deep end, grew to like it and wanted to make a go of it. Auld lad was having none of it saying if you had to spend money on a parlour it wasn't worth it! Son in law walked away. You'd wonder with some lads.
keep going wrote: » Ah Base , if you dont know how farmers react to things you have never been to a mart
Base price wrote: » I have both sold and bought stock in more marts than I care to remember.
Dawggone wrote: » Where does the finance for the 10cpl come from? It's all getting a bit silly...with quota you were fined for exceeding and now you are paid to reduce supply. I hope I'm not going to have to pay a fine for producing more milk. Was planning to produce an extra 500k liters....
keep going wrote: » I have to admit something , my children are racists.the other day the lads were doing something with me with the cows and they told me the red and white cow was their favourite.then yesterday we driving somewhere and passed a yard with jersey cows and the young one was fawning over them.so there we are with some great solid black cows with nice compact size yet big enough andshowing their nz heritage but my children only see the colour of the skin.btw im on the look out for a jersey cow just for the look of her as a kind of a pet despite it breaking all my own rules
keep going wrote: » The killing thing its not going to raise the price of milk one iota
Dawggone wrote: » Will it not raise the earnings to farmers? My fear is that in this wonderfully socialist country, who pays? This crap is ongoing since last year and I haven't seen a bob...I certainly don't want to fund this.
RightTurnClyde wrote: » Coveney was talking yesterday, the 10c will not be funded by Brussels. It's down to individual states or individual milk purchasers. The worry in a country like France is that there would be a tax put on an individuals over production to pay the 10c. If this scheme is applied in certain Memeber states and not others, I would imagine that it will just push milk production to countries that don't partake in the scheme. ( maybe that's hogans and Coveneys cunning plan)
Dawggone wrote: » I was at a cropping event yesterday and there was a nice few sour grapes about that. Cereals are way worse off atm with 3yrs of crap prices....a few months of poor milk prices and there's a ****storm!
Timmaay wrote: I was having a chat with a neighbour farmer the other day about the outlook and different options, his opinion was that I should always keep in mind the option of drop back to 60 cows, very simple low labour system and get a part time job. This was in the face of me looking at spending another 20/30k with the young farmers grant on slurry storage/cubicles etc. Not actually the worst of options 2bh, especially considering I can get an equally as good (or if the milk price stays the same, a wayyy better) return on investment elsewhere on my 30k . I'll probably stay going as I am, but I'm most certainly alot less tolerate of problem cows now, whereas I was looking at milking 97 this year and 110 next year, I'll probably cull 1/2 the autumn carryovers instead, alongside afew other poor milkers, and end up low 90s and only just tip over the 100 next year.
keep going wrote: The killing thing its not going to raise the price of milk one iota
