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Firedance

Saturday 24th January 45mins @ avg 10.36 & 143hr - 4.49miles

My first run in 27 days, went out with 3 friends and it felt great to be back on the road again. Took it easy, never felt like I was pushing it and thoroughly enjoyed it, that’s the good news - the bad news is my foot was quite sore on Saturday evening and again on Sunday morning...

A little about me., I've been running a couple of years now and I'm a graduate from last years DCM thread, I thought I'd give the logs a go, apart from all the fantastic advice we get on here I'm hoping it will keep me disciplined. Its a bit nerve wracking starting off though!!

Firstly just to say I've been injured with plantar fasciitis since mid December, no running at all since 28th December which has been really frustrating but am getting back into it now and fingers crossed I have the injury under control. I have been doing Assisted Isolated Stretching and also a strength & training workout given by my physio who has agreed I can return to running as long as I keep it easy and start with a low mileage base. While my foot was quite sore after Saturdays run the stretches, foam rolling & work outs have brought it back to just a twinge quite quickly so I'm hopeful.

Monday 26th January: Swimming lesson - I can swim but need to improve form so I can use it as a fitness tool, lesson was great fun, delighted I finally took the plunge (:P)

Tuesday 27th January : Up to the club for the first time since December but stayed well away from the session. Did 1 mile easy on the track followed by 30 mins on the road, I had no watch but took it reasonably easy.

Wednesday 28th Jan: Tri Dive, my first dip into the scuba diving world, enjoyed it. The pool swim in fins really seemed to help the foot too.

Thursday 28th January: AM: AIS. PM: 2 mile run followed by 30 mins strength & training workout

Friday 29th January PM: strength & training workout. AIS before bed.

Saturday 30th January 35 mins @ 9.24 & 150bpm
This was too fast, I ran with a friend and even though I could keep with her I knew it wouldn't do my foot any good. It was brilliant to be out though, thoroughly enjoyed this run.

Sunday 31st January Foot was quite sore this morning after yesterday. Went for a swim and then did AIS and foam rolled the peroneals (?) made a big difference. I then headed off to St Catherine's park with the dog, did a jog/walk around with him which I thoroughly enjoyed and no ill affects afterwards, pace was very slow, and HR was in zone 2 so I knew I was doing something right. Absolutely beautiful day to be out and about.

Week one was overall a success, it feels like there's still a way to go before I can get back to any kind of pace/distances but that's ok in order to get things right..

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Younganne

... Shower • Telephone • Air Conditioning • Hairdryer • Radio • Desk • Ironing Facilities • Toilet • Heating • Flat-screen TV • Soundproofing • Wake-up service • Alarm clock • Hypoallergenic • Towels • Linen
Bed Size(s): Extra-large double bed(s) (Super-king size):eek::eek:

no fridge, time for me to check out other alternatives....

Firedance

Younganne wrote: »

... Shower • Telephone • Air Conditioning • Hairdryer • Radio • Desk • Ironing Facilities • Toilet • Heating • Flat-screen TV • Soundproofing • Wake-up service • Alarm clock • Hypoallergenic • Towels • Linen
Bed Size(s): Extra-large double bed(s) (Super-king size):eek::eek:

no fridge, time for me to check out other alternatives....

When we went to Milan for the marathon, my equally neurotic friend contacted the hotel prior to traveling to see what they'd do for her (microwave her porridge), I'm sure if you asked they'd put your brekkie in their kitchen fridge?
At the time I had never run a marathon, I was only taking part in the relay and I thought she was bonkers.....:D

FBOT01

Firedance wrote: »

When we went to Milan for the marathon, my equally neurotic friend contacted the hotel prior to traveling to see what they'd do for her (microwave her porridge), I'm sure if you asked they'd put your brekkie in their kitchen fridge?
At the time I had never run a marathon, I was only taking part in the relay and I thought she was bonkers.....:D

Leave it out of her sight/control:eek::eek:

How could she possibly sleep? What if someone ate it, throw it out or worse still added a little something extra?

On second thoughts I am sure it would be fine. Go with the kitchen fridge option and sleep tight

Firedance

FBOT01 wrote: »

Leave it out of her sight/control:eek::eek:

How could she possibly sleep? What if someone ate it, throw it out or worse still added a little something extra?

On second thoughts I am sure it would be fine. Go with the kitchen fridge option and sleep tight

Yeah well I wouldn't but maybe Anne is somewhat normal....?

Firedance

Younganne wrote: »

... Shower • Telephone • Air Conditioning • Hairdryer • Radio • Desk • Ironing Facilities • Toilet • Heating • Flat-screen TV • Soundproofing • Wake-up service • Alarm clock • Hypoallergenic • Towels • Linen
Bed Size(s): Extra-large double bed(s) (Super-king size):eek::eek:

Oh my God...there's no KETTLE on that list!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Firedance

Saturday 27th Feb: 22.1 miles @ 11:02 avg HR 133

Ugh, I guess i"m long overdue a crappy run

it didn't start out too bad really although I had to do a lot of stretching of the calves this morning as they were feeling quite tight.

First 11 miles out to Sandycove were fine, even somewhat enjoyable. Had loaded up the ipod with some new tunes that allowed me to keep a nice slow rhythm. I stopped just after mile 11 for a loo break and took a couple of picks of my favourite place. I turned around for the run home and found it really difficult to get back into my stride. Before long I realised my HR had risen considerably where it had been really consistent on the way out. By mile 15 I could feel palpitations and stopped in Blackrock to get a bottle of water. Drank about 250ml and back on the road again, it definitely helped, so possibly dehydration, I also bought a slim dairy milk & put in my pocket in case I needed it later.

Made it back over the east link & gave myself a good kick in the backside, ate the chocolate here too. Trudged on up the quays but to be honest this was a total slogfest, everything hurt, hamstrings, calves, quads hips and my left arm was almost completely numb

. Got to the top of parkgate street and realised the last half a mile was entirely uphill. Right fine, screw you body. I plastered on a smile, engaged my core and made a concerted effort to run this strong with good form, it still hurt though... Watched beeped 22 miles but still had another bit to get to the car. Never so happy to be finished a run. Felt sore, tired and to be honest emotionally drained.

I do feel a bit better after some food, a shower and stretches but the head is asking how in the hell am I going to run another 4.2 miles and at a faster pace.. dammit Riggs, I"m too old for this Sh*t!

https://www.strava.com/activities/503521365

yaboya1

Looks like a pretty consistently paced long run to me?
What are you expecting? 22m training runs to be easy?

As you found out, they're usually not

Firedance

yaboya1 wrote: »

Looks like a pretty consistently paced long run to me?
What are you expecting? 22m training runs to be easy?

As you found out, they're usually not

thanks P, you're absolutely right, I wasn't necessarily expecting it to be easy but that's undoubtedly the toughest run on the plan to date, including all the MP runs. I say to date.... I'm trying not too look at what's coming down the line

Murph_D

Never had a handy 22 miler myself! Sounds like you let it get to you as it wore on but that's understandable. Numb arm is weird - ever get that before? My arms used to kill me at this stage of marathon cycle too, just from the effort of holding them up! Anyway, it's the kind of run that is good just by virtue of being out of the way and in the bank so well done.

FBOT01

Firedance wrote: »

Saturday 27th Feb: 22.1 miles @ 11:02 avg HR 133

Ugh, I guess i"m long overdue a crappy run it didn't start out too bad really although I had to do a lot of stretching of the calves this morning as they were feeling quite tight.

First 11 miles out to Sandycove were fine, even somewhat enjoyable. Had loaded up the ipod with some new tunes that allowed me to keep a nice slow rhythm. I stopped just after mile 11 for a loo break and took a couple of picks of my favourite place. I turned around for the run home and found it really difficult to get back into my stride. Before long I realised my HR had risen considerably where it had been really consistent on the way out. By mile 15 I could feel palpitations and stopped in Blackrock to get a bottle of water. Drank about 250ml and back on the road again, it definitely helped, so possibly dehydration, I also bought a slim dairy milk & put in my pocket in case I needed it later.

Made it back over the east link & gave myself a good kick in the backside, ate the chocolate here too. Trudged on up the quays but to be honest this was a total slogfest, everything hurt, hamstrings, calves, quads hips and my left arm was almost completely numb . Got to the top of parkgate street and realised the last half a mile was entirely uphill. Right fine, screw you body. I plastered on a smile, engaged my core and made a concerted effort to run this strong with good form, it still hurt though... Watched beeped 22 miles but still had another bit to get to the car. Never so happy to be finished a run. Felt sore, tired and to be honest emotionally drained.

I do feel a bit better after some food, a shower and stretches but the head is asking how in the hell am I going to run another 4.2 miles and at a faster pace.. dammit Riggs, I"m too old for this Sh*t!

https://www.strava.com/activities/503521365

Bank it and move on AM. Great to have it under the belt so keep that smile plastered on.

What was your fluid intake like in the last day or two as the sore calves could have been given you a prewarning of potential hydration issue. I know in my case calf soreness is usually more of a sign of poor hydration than any muscle tightness or a lack of stretching.

Onwards and upwards...........an evening walk with Woody will do wonders to aid the recovery!!

Firedance

Murph_D wrote: »

Never had a handy 22 miler myself! Sounds like you let it get to you as it wore on but that's understandable. Numb arm is weird - ever get that before? My arms used to kill me at this stage of marathon cycle too, just from the effort of holding them up! Anyway, it's the kind of run that is good just by virtue of being out of the way and in the bank so well done.

FBOT01 wrote: »

Bank it and move on AM. Great to have it under the belt so keep that smile plastered on.

What was your fluid intake like in the last day or two as the sore calves could have been given you a prewarning of potential hydration issue. I know in my case calf soreness is usually more of a sign of poor hydration than any muscle tightness or a lack of stretching.

Onwards and upwards...........an evening walk with Woody will do wonders to aid the recovery!!

Thanks both. The arm was at me on the runmute on wednesday, causing pins & needles, obviously worse today. Going to text my A physio and see if I can get a session before Kinvara. Good point on the water FBOT, I had been doing really well but thinking about it, might not have been as good in the last week..

tang1

+1 to lads comments AM, it's not suppose to be easy and I certainly don't expect my LSR to be easy in the morning. You toughed it out and got through it relatively unscathed so onwards and upwards would be my thinking. Kudos for getting it done & not giving in.

Kennyg71

Well done FD, I wussed out of my 22 mile run last year, and glad
to say had no real effect on the day, found 20 miles hard enough.
So fair play for getting it done, also had company on all long runs,
Much harder on your own so double well done, also this is only one
Of your runs this week so remember we are getting used to running
In tired legs, this is toughest part of the cycle.

FBOT01

Firedance wrote: »

Thanks both. The arm was at me on the runmute on wednesday, causing pins & needles, obviously worse today. Going to text my A physio and see if I can get a session before Kinvara. Good point on the water FBOT, I had been doing really well but thinking about it, might not have been as good in the last week..

BTW I have experience of the pins and needles/numbness in hands. In my case it would normally be linked to pinch in neck/shoulder. I have in the past been guilty of running longer runs with my shoulders up around my ears which causes the knock on issues. In your case it could be linked to the runmute particularly if you were carrying a backpack.

Mrs Mc

You did it ! Clap on the back

as you used to tell me when I had crappy runs during DCM training write it up to experience and move on ......you ran 22 miles woh woh to be acknowledged so well done.

Bungy Girl

Mrs Mc wrote: »

You did it ! Clap on the back as you used to tell me when I had crappy runs during DCM training write it up to experience and move on ......you ran 22 miles woh woh to be acknowledged so well done.

+1 to this. It's done and no one can take it away! Also the odd crappy run is inevitable and makes us appreciate the good and the great ones. See you tomorrow!

Younganne

FBOT01 wrote: »

BTW I have experience of the pins and needles/numbness in hands. In my case it would normally be linked to pinch in neck/shoulder. I have in the past been guilty of running longer runs with my shoulders up around my ears which causes the knock on issues. In your case it could be linked to the runmute particularly if you were carrying a backpack.

+1 on this. For years, I used to get pins & needles in my hands and they would wake me at night. The osteopath I was with around Christmas explained it was due to tightness in my upper back and he sorted it out, I haven't had a problem since now that I think about it. IF you had a back pack during your runmute it might have left the back a bit tight or you might have been clenching your shoulders/back unknown to yourself!!

Regarding your LR today, The run might have felt tough but you stuck with it, dug deep and kept going, ...this will help if things get tough on April 10th.
Well done, you never give up or give in!!!:D

martyboy48

Hey worry wart, tiss grand.... They're not meant to be a breeze like

Actually, in a way, it's good, it shows me you're human. You've been banging out runs there not a bother on ya for ages, feel the suffering like the rest of us

By the way, I've been know to get a numb right arm on the odd long run too, fierce annoying

snailsong

Well done on toughing it out. We all occasionally have tough days so if you can keep smiling and push through that's a great skill to develop.
Also, 22 miles is meant to be tough, I'm not sure I'll go beyond 20 in this cycle.

I have a feeling you'll surprise yourself in Kinvara.

martyboy48

snailsong wrote: »

Well done on toughing it out. We all occasionally have tough days so if you can keep smiling and push through that's a great skill to develop.
Also, 22 miles is meant to be tough, I'm not sure I'll go beyond 20 in this cycle.

I have a feeling you'll surprise yourself in Kinvara.

Thread hijack..... Snailsong, I'm hearing great things about blue thunder and their "big bang burger"??? Worth a try???

annapr

Hey AM, just catching up... that sounds like a perfect 22 miler to me, exactly what you should expect. Be careful about the hydration as others have said.

Firedance

tang1 wrote: »

+1 to lads comments AM, it's not suppose to be easy and I certainly don't expect my LSR to be easy in the morning. You toughed it out and got through it relatively unscathed so onwards and upwards would be my thinking. Kudos for getting it done & not giving in.

Seems yours was easier than mine in the end B

, thanks though

Kennyg71 wrote: »

Well done FD, I wussed out of my 22 mile run last year, and glad to say had no real effect on the day, found 20 miles hard enough. So fair play for getting it done, also had company on all long runs,
Much harder on your own so double well done, also this is only one of your runs this week so remember we are getting used to running in tired legs, this is toughest part of the cycle.

Thanks for that G, much appreciated.

FBOT01 wrote: »

BTW I have experience of the pins and needles/numbness in hands. In my case it would normally be linked to pinch in neck/shoulder. I have in the past been guilty of running longer runs with my shoulders up around my ears which causes the knock on issues. In your case it could be linked to the runmute particularly if you were carrying a backpack.

Yup, I hear ya, in fact I scrunched up my shoulders a few times on the run so I'd be sure to drop them back down again, it is related to this so I did some foam rolling on them last night & swam today. Thanks for all the advice M.

Mrs Mc wrote: »

You did it ! Clap on the back as you used to tell me when I had crappy runs during DCM training write it up to experience and move on ......you ran 22 miles woh woh to be acknowledged so well done.

Did I say that?

ok, it must be true so

thanks A.

Bungy Girl wrote: »

+1 to this. It's done and no one can take it away! Also the odd crappy run is inevitable and makes us appreciate the good and the great ones. See you tomorrow!

thanks G, & Well done today!!!

Younganne wrote: »

+1 on this. For years, I used to get pins & needles in my hands and they would wake me at night. The osteopath I was with around Christmas explained it was due to tightness in my upper back and he sorted it out, I haven't had a problem since now that I think about it. IF you had a back pack during your runmute it might have left the back a bit tight or you might have been clenching your shoulders/back unknown to yourself!!

Regarding your LR today, The run might have felt tough but you stuck with it, dug deep and kept going, ...this will help if things get tough on April 10th.
Well done, you never give up or give in!!!:D

I didn't have a back pack with me on Wednesday though, but I do have an issue with neck & shoulder tightness so will concentrate on those this week, and thank, yeah, I'm a stubborn beatch

martyboy48 wrote: »

Hey worry wart, tiss grand.... They're not meant to be a breeze like
Actually, in a way, it's good, it shows me you're human. You've been banging out runs there not a bother on ya for ages, feel the suffering like the rest of us

he he, funny Meno said something similar yesterday, I know it sounds like all my runs have been a walk in the park but that's not the case, I'm fairly positive person most of the time so the good stuff tends to outweigh the bad in the memory banks, yesterday was the exception to that I guess I couldn't remember anything good about it

snailsong wrote: »

Well done on toughing it out. We all occasionally have tough days so if you can keep smiling and push through that's a great skill to develop.
Also, 22 miles is meant to be tough, I'm not sure I'll go beyond 20 in this cycle.

I have a feeling you'll surprise yourself in Kinvara.

annapr wrote: »

Hey AM, just catching up... that sounds like a perfect 22 miler to me, exactly what you should expect. Be careful about the hydration as others have said.

thanks both, yep will up the water intake.

Thanks guys, this is what's so great about boards, all the experience, advice & feedback that people are willing to offer. Have been reassured too that this is normal with an increase in mileage and the endurance gains from yesterday will be beneficial in Kinvara.

Firedance

Sunday 28th February 4 miles easy @ 10:52, avg HR 124

Was heading over to Cherryfield Park for the final Meet & Train race, more on that later. Wanted to do a few miles in the famous Tymon park before hand, discovered the gate was locked though, clearly the people of Tallaght don’t like to exercise before 10am, no wonder Myles likes it so much

Parked in Cherryfield and ran back up towards Tymon, found a way in via one of the GAA clubs. Its a lovely park, all things considered, with some pretty lakes and a stunning backdrop of the Dublin mountains. Legs felt ok, HR not too bad so not as much damage done yesterday as I’d originally feared. Feeling much better today and love running again :pac:

Headed back to Cherryfield for the race, a bit of sprinting around the course, through bushes, jumping over tree stumps etc to cover as much ground as possible as there were only two of us there from the club to support. With apologies to BG for roaring at a club mate to ‘catch those girls’ (BG & two others). Very exciting race both at the pointy end where we had two in the top 3 until the last corner and from 5th or so downwards. Well done to all my clubmates, mulberry, that was some fecking sprint to the finish line!!! Well done to BG too who has some fantastic splits. It’s all over for another year and the results will be very interesting.

Followed up with Swim, Sauna (no stories this week) and finally, got the grass cut

WTD: 52.3 - very excited to finally have a mileage week over 50!!! am bona fide real runner now..
MTD 182
YTD 370.4

mbarr

Firedance wrote: »

WTD: 52.3 - very excited to finally have a mileage week over 50!!! am bona fide real runner now..
MTD 182
YTD 370.4

Excellent stuff AM

glad you've bounced back after your 22 mile yesterday.

We have the exact same YTD (well, mine's 370.1)! You know if you did the 1000 mile challenge you'd be second highest female! (actually probably the highest, as I'm starting to believe Ososlo is a machine)

Firedance

mbarr wrote: »

Excellent stuff AM glad you've bounced back after your 22 mile yesterday.

We have the exact same YTD (well, mine's 370.1)! You know if you did the 1000 mile challenge you'd be second highest female! (actually probably the highest, as I'm starting to believe Ososlo is a machine)

sooooo we don't have the exact same YTD, I have more?

I filled in the mileage for 1,000 year at the end of last year, must have a look at this years so, not that I'm competitive or anything like..

oooh, yes I'm second female, and 13th overall but sure there are loads of people who haven't logged their miles who'd be higher than me, it won't last

mbarr

Haha, should have kept my mouth shut! Are you really that age

? You look a lot younger!

Firedance

mbarr wrote: »

Are you really that age ? You look a lot younger!

My new favourite boardsie :pac:

snailsong

martyboy48 wrote: »

Thread hijack..... Snailsong, I'm hearing great things about blue thunder and their "big bang burger"??? Worth a try???

Marty, when I was a younger man I would have been a regular diner at that fine establishment. With age, however, has come fancy notions and sadly I have yet to experience the undoubted pleasure of the big bang burger.

Sure give it a go and report back. What have you got to lose?

Dubgal72

Hi AM, like you, I'm a shoulder-tenser. A hockey ball works wooooonders....just stand against a wall and roll around :cool: A tennis ball isn't quite hard enough but will do the job too. Did you find your shoulders raising as the going got tougher? Something to keep in mind....stay relaxed, even when in bits! Well done on toughing it out, it will stand to you on the day.

Firedance

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Hi AM, like you, I'm a shoulder-tenser. A hockey ball works wooooonders....just stand against a wall and roll around :cool: A tennis ball isn't quite hard enough but will do the job too. Did you find your shoulders raising as the going got tougher? Something to keep in mind....stay relaxed, even when in bits! Well done on toughing it out, it will stand to you on the day.

I wonder who'll get there first, FBOT or Tang..

Thanks A, yeah I totally am although I really try to make the effort not to on a run, I can't say the same when I'm hunched over my desk all day, or like now, when I'm hunched over the laptop :rolleyes: I have a spikey ball so will give it a go with that. Don't worry, you were in my head in those last couple of miles!!!!