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Child Killed in Sulky Accident

foggy_lad

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/boy-11-killed-when-the-pony-and-trap-he-was-travelling-on-collided-with-truck-34489544.html

When are the authorities going to take proper action and stop this senseless loss of life? When are Horses going to be banned in city areas and taken from children and teens?

How many children have to die before the councils and government get their act together and round up all these horses and euthanise them?

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Torricelli

You want to kill the innocent horses? WTF, it's hardly their fault.

Euthanise their owners instead, IMO.

Stheno

WHile a tragedy, when is the last time another accident like this happened causing loss of life?

I can think of at least two instances in the last four years where underage drivers caused loss of life in cars, but not sulkies.

BettePorter

Sorry now .........What has euthanising innocent horses got to do with anything???

What an idiotic comment.

Whosthis

foggy_lad wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/boy-11-killed-when-the-pony-and-trap-he-was-travelling-on-collided-with-truck-34489544.html

When are the authorities going to take proper action and stop this senseless loss of life? When are Horses going to be banned in city areas and taken from children and teens?

How many children have to die before the councils and government get their act together and round up all these horses and euthanise them?

You make it out like there's an epidemic of kids being killed by horses, how common is it?

[Deleted User]

Well at least you've decided that the truck driver was not responsible, cos it's hard to gauge from the link...

myshirt

Foggy Lad, when are people like you gonna get your sh!t together and stop demonising young kids of socioeconomic disadvantage?

It's supporting these kids through horse programmes rather than killing their horses that's needed. What an appalling attitude on your part to a young kid that died. No class man. Ffs.

johnnyryan89

Horses have been here before cars and have every right to be on the road but kids shouldn't be allowed to ride a sulky or trap by themselves in a built up area.

foggy_lad

They are not old enough to own horses, The horses are rarely microchipped, they don't have facilities or money to keep horses and as shown by the tragic incident today it is unsafe to have groups of kids riding around in heavy traffic with their horses and traps.

Allowing these kids to keep horses only perpetuates low level criminality in the communities involved because it causes a blind eye to be turned to so many breaches of the law.

Safety and public safety first by removing the horses and thereby removing the problem!

Deank

myshirt wrote: »

Foggy Lad, when are people like you gonna get your sh!t together and stop demonising young kids of socioeconomic disadvantage?

It's supporting these kids through horse programmes rather than killing their horses that's needed. What an appalling attitude on your part to a young kid that died. No class man. Ffs.

What?? And what will that do, encourage more sulky's with minors at the helm. Divine logic.

Whosthis

foggy_lad wrote: »

Allowing these kids to keep horses only perpetuates low level criminality in the communities involved because it causes a blind eye to be turned to so many breaches of the law.

Get fu<ked you ignorant <unt.

Deank

Whosthis wrote: »

Get ****ed you ignorant ****.

Super,can't see through the stars, care to start again

Whosthis

Deank wrote: »

Super,can't see through the stars, care to start again

Just make it up yourself.

Deank

Whosthis wrote: »

Just make it up yourself.

I normally do, but it's late, I'm tired and left my mind reading machine behind in work earlier.

topmanamillion

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well at least you've decided that the truck driver was not responsible, cos it's hard to gauge from the link...

The Irish times article is a bit more informative and it would seem as if the horse/drivers were at fault.
“I was told the cart veered towards the truck and the three lads were thrown off. The other two lads were just lucky. Maybe the horse was spooked.”
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/boy-12-who-was-horse-mad-killed-in-clondalkin-collision-1.2550110

The area of horse ownership needs stricter regulation. I'm unsure if there is a minimum age for travelling on/driving a horse and trap on a road/built up area but there certainly should be and it should be strictly enforced.
It's the responsibility of horse owners to educate themselves as to the needs of their animals and act responsibly. If they are unwilling/unable to do this then I think removal of horses is the way to go.

Whosthis

Deank wrote: »

I normally do, but it's late, I'm tired and left my mind reading machine behind in work earlier.

Edited, how's that for your tired mind??

Junkyard Tom

If everyone travelled by sulky it would cut road deaths down considerably and would also help reduce pollution and carbon emissions.

Edit. Oil wars would reduce too. Fuel for horses is locally sourced.

Yes, if you don't support the banning of cars and a return to horses you're a supporter of war.

Deank

Whosthis wrote: »

Edited, how's that for your tired mind??

Super, thanks for the insight, still no substance behind the post though.

Kids in charge sulky's on a busy road, and that's okay is it

topmanamillion

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

If everyone travelled by sulky it would cut road deaths down considerably and would also help reduce pollution and carbon emissions.

Nonsense. It's like saying if people walked their 20 mile commute it would reduce pollution.

Sh1tbag OToole

Definitely a cause for sulking

Deank

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

If everyone travelled by sulky it would cut road deaths down considerably and would also help reduce pollution and carbon emissions.

Edit. Oil wars would reduce too.

Yes, if you don't support the banning of cars and a return to horses you're a supporter of war.

I can't wait to see teams of 48 strong piebalds pulling 40fts up the M50

[Deleted User]

A tragic and preventable accident.

That child should have been in school.

screamer

Kids on a sulky almost killed my brother and his family recently. The car was badly damaged the horse died as far as I know and the gards said there is SFA they can do about it. No insurance, no parental responsibility. There is no way kids should be in charge of an animal travelling at speed on a public road. It's dangerous for the kids in the sulky and for everyone using the road, and the horse too.

kneemos

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

If everyone travelled by sulky it would cut road deaths down considerably and would also help reduce pollution and carbon emissions.

Edit. Oil wars would reduce too. Fuel for horses is locally sourced.

Yes, if you don't support the banning of cars and a return to horses you're a supporter of war.

How many MPHB (miles per hay bale . That's how it's measured) does an average horse get?

foggy_lad

topmanamillion wrote: »

The Irish times article is a bit more informative and it would seem as if the horse/drivers were at fault.
“I was told the cart veered towards the truck and the three lads were thrown off. The other two lads were just lucky. Maybe the horse was spooked.”
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/boy-12-who-was-horse-mad-killed-in-clondalkin-collision-1.2550110

The area of horse ownership needs stricter regulation. I'm unsure if there is a minimum age for travelling on/driving a horse and trap on a road/built up area but there certainly should be and it should be strictly enforced.
It's the responsibility of horse owners to educate themselves as to the needs of their animals and act responsibly. If they are unwilling/unable to do this then I think removal of horses is the way to go.

People in charge of or driving animals must be over 18 afaik and the ownership and keeping of horses especially in urban areas is heavily regulated but mostly ignored by these kids and their parents
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/animal_welfare_and_control/control_of_horses.html

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

If everyone travelled by sulky it would cut road deaths down considerably and would also help reduce pollution and carbon emissions.

Edit. Oil wars would reduce too. Fuel for horses is locally sourced.

Yes, if you don't support the banning of cars and a return to horses you're a supporter of war.

We are in enough trouble over our dairy herd emissions without adding hundreds of thousands of horses to the mix.

NIMAN

Please bear in mind what the thread title says here folks.

A child lost their life here. Irrespective of what 'community' they come from, that is so sad and something the parents will have to live with and cope with.

A child.

dreamers75

Feel sorry for the truck driver, his life wont be worth living.

Smidge

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

A tragic and preventable accident.

That child should have been in school.

He was off school today due to voting and for the people making disrespectful comments on this.....remember one thing..

A child has died. A child.

Smidge

NIMAN wrote: »

Please bear in mind what the thread title says here folks.

A child lost their life here. Irrespective of what 'community' they come from, that is so sad and something the parents will have to live with and cope with.

A child.

The child in question was not from that particular "community"

Smidge

Any chance a mod can close this?

Really not appropriate when its so raw for people having just lost a child.

NIMAN

Didn't know that. Just assumed, wrongly.