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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Warning link in OP 20/3

Lord TSC

Would love to have started this off with news Jose was signing. Hopefully soon. Hopefully this thread has more luck than the last....

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RobertKK

There is talk of Terry to China, maybe with Rooney...

NoviGlitzko

Signings-wise, anythings possible under Mourihno. He'd have a huge draw on players and we can pay them anything they want. Signings that are mandatory this summer; A CB, winger, and a forward. This is who I'd like for them slots and are attainable:

CB: Stones - PL proven
LW: Mahrez - PL proven, world class
FD: Greizhmann - World class

I'd like to go for a RB as well, but as long we fill those positions, and do them well I'll be more than happy. I'd even take someone like Fonte for CB and Ighalo as CF cover. I really hope we aren't in for Ibrahimovic.

bangkok

actually, a player I can see us going for, Javier Mascherano, a typical mourinho player and only said the other day he would play in England again for any club

bangkok

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

Signings-wise, anythings possible under Mourihno. He'd have a huge draw on players and we can pay them anything they want. Signings that are mandatory this summer; A CB, winger, and a forward. This is who I'd like for them slots and are attainable:

CB: Stones - PL proven
LW: Mahrez - PL proven, world class
FD: Greizhmann - World class

I'd like to go for a RB as well, but as long we fill those positions, and do them well I'll be more than happy. I'd even take someone like Fonte for CB and Ighalo as CF cover. I really hope we aren't in for Ibrahimovic.

Mahrez RW I think you mean

RobertKK

.I wonder what our front three will look like next season.
For right wing -
Mahrez, Bale, Martial??

Centre forward - Martial, Rooney, Lewandowski, Ibrahimovic, Griezmann, ???

Left wing - Martial, Ronaldo, Neymar

If we buy a left winger that pushes Martial to elsewhere, and if we buy a top striker, it pushes Martial to the other wing.

A dream world would have Neymar or Ronaldo on the left wing, but I think Ronaldo is less likely with no CL than Neymar who is also not likely, but a rumoured £1 million a week salary might work.
Otherwise would keep Martial there.

Upfront, Rooney is too hot which is great or more likely too cold and is too inconsistent. Lewandowski would be the dream signing upfront, but Ibrahimovic would be fine too or Griezmann

Right wing - No muller, so Mahrez or Bale.

We need a top class attack, something we don't have now.

Mitch Connor

A lot of confidence here that United would even be capable of signing top stars. never mind 2 or 3!

Giggsy11

Lord TSC wrote: »

Donald Love is cup tied for the game tonight, cause he played for Wigan in the FA Cup back in November, so god knows who's going in at RB.

Few options.

1. Play McNair as RB and promote either Tuanzebe or Fosu Mensah as CB
2. Play Fosu Mensah as RB, he played few times and made some runs that would make United wingers of past proud.
3. Promote Tyler Reid from U18s.

bangkok

non utd related but f**king hell.....embarassing

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/10177430/remi-garde-watches-aston-villa-lose-to-clubs-u21-team

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

A lot of confidence here that United would even be capable of signing top stars. never mind 2 or 3!

pay the money you can sign who you want.

Lord TSC

Mitch Connor wrote: »

A lot of confidence here that United would even be capable of signing top stars. never mind 2 or 3!

Appointing Jose would, imo, be a massive sign of intent from the club. That, along with the money we could offer, would probably be a draw, and might be enough to convince players it's only 1 year out of Europe. Couple that with the Mendes factor too. AND the fact that I think if (lol, "if") we don't make CL, Woody and the club will be desperate to show we're still a big team so will splash the cash...

Mitch Connor

bangkok wrote: »

pay the money you can sign who you want.

To an extent - but I think talk of getting Neymar AND Bale AND some other world stars is fanciful. United won't spend three or four hundred million on players in the summer imo.

On top of that, if Neymar is leaving Barcelona then City and a number of other clubs that can offer just as much money but also CL football and a proper shot at domestic silverware will also be interested in him.

Regardless of money, United are becoming less and less appealing. Neymar, imo, is as likely to head to China for money as he is to United.

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keeponhurling wrote: »

John Terry

Jesus possible if Jose becomes manager. That is some excellent musing out of you.

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

To an extent - but I think talk of getting Neymar AND Bale AND some other world stars is fanciful. United won't spend three or four hundred million on players in the summer imo.

On top of that, if Neymar is leaving Barcelona then City and a number of other clubs that can offer just as much money but also CL football and a proper shot at domestic silverware will also be interested in him.

Regardless of money, United are becoming less and less appealing. Neymar, imo, is as likely to head to China for money as he is to United.

no I agree, no chance of us signing Bale AND Neymar. With Pep going to City and guaranteed Champions league football, if City want either Neymar or Bale I think they would go their before United.

If rumours are true and we have just slashed 60 odd million on Filipe Anderson, that's a big chunk of money spent on 1 player but I think Mourinho will also sell Mata and Fellaini anyway so that should free up some funds as well for a squad overhaul

Bounty Hunter

If you don't have CL football I really can't see any way Neymar would go there. Yeah you guys could throw money at him but City / Pep could do the same if he even wanted to leave and considering he is at Barca who's to say he would want to.

Zlatan is a huge name who could be an option though obviously it'd probably be only for a year given his age but imo thatd be a good move especially if you offload Rooney to China.

Stones being at Everton could obviously be an option as it's not like it'd be CL or bust for him

Mitch Connor

There is ZERO chance Terry will play for United. It won't happen. United won't go for him and neither will Jose.

Jose dumped him out of the chelsea side towards the end - he wouldn't be adding him to a United backline and Terry can make a lot more money going somewhere else for a couple of years.

It just isn't going to happen. No way.

Mitch Connor

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

If you don't have CL football I really can't see any way Neymar would go there. Yeah you guys could throw money at him but City / Pep could do the same if he even wanted to leave and considering he is at Barca who's to say he would want to.

Zlatan is a huge name who could be an option though obviously it'd probably be only for a year given his age but imo thatd be a good move especially if you offload Rooney to China.

Stones being at Everton could obviously be an option as it's not like it'd be CL or bust for him

The only thing I could see with Neymar is the fact he and his family very much push the neymar brand - there isn't a club in the world that would push and add value to brand neymar than Man United.

If he could be convinced he was going to be the next star and the leading light of a team being revitalised under new management and a few other top players.... who knows.

But being out of the CL is massive in this case. Even counting the other stuff, I just can't see past Neymar (or others) seeing United as a fallen giant with little hope of a return, and an effective waste of their career to go there.

TheDoc

homerjay2005 wrote: »

being realistic,

if we were to sign 3 first 11 players plus 2 back up players this summer, who do you think they will be?

Damn thats a tough one. Considering we will have a new manager most likely, potentially different system, a lot of unknowns.

In regards what I'd think realistic and a certain aspect of what I'd like.

Romelu Lukaku
Improved rapidly this season in terms of playing as a lone striker, the flavour of most systems at present. I'd imagine would easily operate as part of a two. Big, strong, quick, decent finisher, good stats, good injury record. If it's Mourinho might be some issues, anyone else be mad to not consider him. A nice varient to Martial, and imo undoubtedly better and more talented then Benteke.

Toni Kroos
My feelings on him are well known at this point. But undying love aside, operates expertly as part of a deep lying two in a 4-2-3-1 or as a playmaker in a midfield three. Appears to be getting some grief in Madrid, and doesn't appear impressed at the volatile nature of Madrid. Madrid might look to offload or he might look for a fresh challenge.

Gotze
Another stop start season for the once labelled "German Messi". I'm still a big fan of his, and at 23 still has his best years ahead of him. Quick, incisive and creative, he would inject much needed pace and creativity into a flagging attack. Can operate as a .10 or from the left.

In terms of backups, that's tricky. How do you convince a player to join to play second fiddle? I don't know how to even go about identifying a backup player, that isn't just "i like him, I want him in the squad so hes not elsewhere". Maybe in terms of young players stepping in:

Donald Love
Liked what I've seen of him for the under 21's and very much like to see how he gets on in the first team. Seems to have a great engine and a good instinct when moving forward.

Andreas Pereira
I think he should be very much ahead in the pecking order of Januzaj. Good exploits at international level, doing really well for the under 21's and looks to have exciting potential. I'm surprised Van Gaal hasn't called on him more to play on the right. We won't know until he gets a fair crack of the whip, and not just random 15-20 minute appearances here and there.

I think Kroos would be my balls to the wall singing. Carrick needs replacing, and Kroos provides that level of vision and range of passing, if not better. Playing alongside an energetic Schneiderlan, or Blind back in midfield(btw my best two DM's would be Blind and Schneiderlan) would in my mind, be a pretty good combination

TheDoc

Mitch Connor wrote: »

To an extent - but I think talk of getting Neymar AND Bale AND some other world stars is fanciful. United won't spend three or four hundred million on players in the summer imo.

On top of that, if Neymar is leaving Barcelona then City and a number of other clubs that can offer just as much money but also CL football and a proper shot at domestic silverware will also be interested in him.

Regardless of money, United are becoming less and less appealing. Neymar, imo, is as likely to head to China for money as he is to United.

Always worth remembing the wages these guys are on. All the Neymar furor is coming from his current £150k packet, that he and his people feel should be improved, and with good reasoning.

Bale is on something like 250k. Muller was on £150k, dont know if thats after his latest contract or before.

Point being, we can match or improve these earnings easily. Di Maria got himself a massive increase, coming to a club he didn't even want to sign for. So while the current prestige and chances of success at the club are low, the spending power by the club is still pretty significant.

Like Rooney's deal still perplexes me. He is frequently reference to being the 5th highest paid player in world football. But then I keep reading and hearing about some part of his deal where United had to buy his image rights, which means some mad **** of like him gettnig the guts of nearly 500k a week?!?!?

I know what you mean by paying big fees might be not possible, but if they can structure a payment that goes over a few years, I'm not sure there is a big problem. And I'd imagine we can offer 250k+ to atleast two signings this summer. And if Rooney goes, maybe more?

Musn't forget with the departure of Di Maria, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Falcao and Van Persie we freed up a pretty significant chunk of our wage bill, that I don't believe has been absorbed by the new signings.

homerjay2005

bangkok wrote: »

non utd related but f**king hell.....embarassing

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/10177430/remi-garde-watches-aston-villa-lose-to-clubs-u21-team

wouldnt take any notice in that at all, you see that type of thing happen alot in training environment.

Cantona's Collars

The "Am I bothered" match thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98814718#post98814718

bangkok

homerjay2005 wrote: »

wouldnt take any notice in that at all, you see that type of thing happen alot in training environment.

i seriously doubt it does happen a lot. unless you are on about it happening a lot at villa?? if I was a villa fan I would be hugely pissed off. its no wonder they are bottom of the table and easily one of the worst teams in premier league history

jimmytwotimes 2013

https://twitter.com/ESPNUK/status/701796925763268608

The press having good fun this week.

bangkok

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ESPNUK/status/701796925763268608

The press having good fun this week.

that's great news if true!!!

Discodog

I wonder who Giggs would have on his shopping list ? :pac:

Maximus Alexander

I hope that the Manchester United Football Club team can win the football match in the Football Association Cup competition tonight by kicking more footballs in the the goal net than the opposing team of players.

Giggsy11

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I hope that the Manchester United Football Club team can win the football match in the Football Association Cup competition tonight by kicking more footballs in the the goal net than the opposing team of players.

Hopefully Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal thinks on the same lines.

jayo26

Discodog wrote: »

I wonder who Giggs would have on his shopping list ? :pac:

Nani, anderson, cleverly, Evans, hernandez, rvp, rafael, Vidic, Evra................

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homerjay2005 wrote: »

theres premier league teams and the danish champions (lets be a little bit fair on that part as angry as we all are).

this however is Shrewsbury..i mean, come on ffs!!!

I know Homer, but at this stage I'd have fúck all hope of our lads beating Dromin United from the Meath and District League...with the Dromin lads out on the batter the night before. Exaggeration yes, but just to show my hope is at an all-time low with this club.

Seriously, I've been there (Hopeland) as recent as Sunderland and Midtjylland last week, I even bet on United in the latter. Yes, those teams should be more difficult to beat than Shrewsbury, but we should be beating all of these teams anyway. Starting with MK Dons 18 months ago going through to Midtjylland a few days ago, I have completely lost faith in United beating the teams they should be beating. On the slight upside...

Rossi IRL wrote: »

I dont know but his price seems to have gone up since january for getting injured and playing ****é

Sounds like our kind of player, sign him up!

In other news, Miguel Delaney has written a column for Eurosport about why he thinks appointing Jose is a bad, strategic, long-term move. Appointing Jose would be good for now, but United should still be thinking long-term in his opinion. I'd argue that we haven't got the luxury at the moment of thinking about the long-term future, the 'now' is that bad and has to be the priority. Here's a link to Miguel's article...

http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2015-2016/appointing-jose-mourinho-would-be-a-big-strategic-error-for-man-utd-they-need-a-long-term-plan_sto5188430/story.shtml

patmac

I wonder how many United 'fans' are hoping we lose tonight, so as to say bye, bye Van Gaal.

Discodog

patmac wrote: »

I wonder how many United 'fans' are hoping we lose tonight, so as to say bye, bye Van Gaal.

Why ? What difference is another loss & being dumped out another competition going to matter ?