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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Warning link in OP 20/3

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Would love to have started this off with news Jose was signing. Hopefully soon. Hopefully this thread has more luck than the last....

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Giggsy11

This is Red Issue,

In 2013,

https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/332079780088397824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/330764386601934848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

In 2016
https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/701435866053410816
https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/701435895195381760
https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/701435917391626240

[Deleted User]

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

It's bad when I enjoyed Hibs v Alloa more then most United matches this season.

Never thought I'd see the day Ted.

Lol true story kew

In the pub all day. Best game of footie I watched in weeks

[Deleted User]

Link to the entire 'story' from red issue in text bullet points...

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/46vvmk/uniteds_boardroom_power_struggle_as_told_by_red/

Would make for an interesting screenplay.

jayo26

stankratz wrote: »

Link to the entire 'story' from red issue in text bullet points...

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/46vvmk/uniteds_boardroom_power_struggle_as_told_by_red/

Would make for an interesting screenplay.

Are they actually a respectable source of news or are they just a bunch of wannabe reporters?

[Deleted User]

jayo26 wrote: »

Are they actually a respectable source of news or are they just a bunch of wannabe reporters?

I wouldn't be too qualified to answer that because I don't frequent Red Issue that often, but their reputation on Reddit isn't great as the comments underneath the above link shows.

I just posted it because it was mentioned in here without a link to all of the Red Issues posts, plus it's Sunday.

glued

jayo26 wrote: »

Are they actually a respectable source of news or are they just a bunch of wannabe reporters?

It's 'insider knowledge'. Most of it is horsesh1t but sometimes they get it right.

jayo26

glued wrote: »

It's 'insider knowledge'. Most of it is horsesh1t but sometimes they get it right.

A bit like if you throw enough **** at the wall some of it will stick.

I used to follow a few of them before I came to boards but I find its easier to keep up with everything on here with alot of local humour thrown in

Cantona's Collars

jayo26 wrote: »

A bit like if you throw enough **** at the wall some of it will stick.

I used to follow a few of them before I came to boards but I find its easier to keep up with everything on here with alot of local humour thrown in

This place is quare good lad.:P

jayo26

zerks wrote: »

This place is quare good lad.:P

Your some funny hun.

homerjay2005

stankratz wrote: »

but their reputation on Reddit isn't great as the comments underneath

- the vast majority of people on that link you posted are discussing it on its merits - theres some dismissing it, but you get that no matter who writes something that doesnt portray the club in a good light.

some very decent lads contributed that that magazine and now, the forum and i along with alot of other fans i know, have alot of time for Red Issue. i enjoy their stuff and the forum, like every place and aspects it has its bad eggs and they get somethings wrong, but they are as reliable as anybody.

what they have said today however, is nothing too earth shattering and not exactly beyond the bounds of impossibility.

Cantona's Collars

Jose Mourinho has gentleman's agreement to become next Manchester United manager http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-manager-jose-mourinho-10924573#ICID=sharebar_twitter

Sand

homerjay2005 wrote: »

what they have said today however, is nothing too earth shattering and not exactly beyond the bounds of impossibility.

Its a series of assertions without any evidence. It would require more to give it credence than just not being impossible.

homerjay2005

Sand wrote: »

Its a series of assertions without any evidence. It would require more to give it credence than just not being impossible.

what would be your reason for not taking them at their word then?

theres many things that ive read on that forum over the years that appeared in the main stream media several weeks later and have been discussed here at length.

i initially didnt like their style 4 or 5 years ago when i first started subscribing to the forum but since then ive seen alot of truth being told on there, compared to other forums.

Theve been depicting a very poorly run football club (for a club of our size and stature) for years and alot of what they have been saying, has eventually come to the fore especially about how Woodward had changed our direction since he took over.

Sand

homerjay2005 wrote: »

what would be your reason for not taking them at their word then?

theres many things that ive read on that forum over the years that appeared in the main stream media several weeks later and have been discussed here at length.

i initially didnt like their style 4 or 5 years ago when i first started subscribing to the forum but since then ive seen alot of truth being told on there, compared to other forums.

Theve been depicting a very poorly run football club (for a club of our size and stature) for years and alot of what they have been saying, has eventually come to the fore especially about how Woodward had changed our direction since he took over.

They present no evidence. I tend not to believe claims without any evidence. They actually say to disregard Fergie being publicly friendly with Mourinho because that evidence goes against what they are saying.

LeeJM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its not beyond the bounds of possibilty that Leceister could finish 4th, need to qualify and lose that knock out round.

there is bound to be a Mendes player or two coming in if jose gets the job.

I love this line. Already getting in the excuses if we sign a world class player. It wont be because of Ed, it will be because Mendes decided we should have one cos of his mate Jose being hired. Should be working for The Sun or The Mirror being able to cover your a$$ so far in advance.

homerjay2005

Sand wrote: »

They present no evidence. I tend not to believe claims without any evidence.

you could apply that then to 90% of everything written or discussed about the club or football in general, be it positive or negative.

somethings will eventually be proved correct/incorrect, most things however will never ever be discussed again once time has passed.

every journalist that i know, writes and believes in everything they write, in good faith. not saying these are journalists by the way, i dont know them too well apart from 1 or 2 of the main lads who ive met once or twice.

do you not think that at least, part of what they are saying could be true and explain why LVG still remains in the job? i mean, every other club in the world would have sacked him by now - not every club in the world though has a leader lacking leadership or more to the point,club legends like Sir Bobby, Fergie and Giggs "loitering with intent" in the back ground.

Fergie has said in the past that Giggs would make a great manager for United.

homerjay2005

on a seperate note, when you see how poor the back up keepers were today for Spurs and City, you appreciate how lucky we are to have Romero..

tinofapples

When's it happening lads ???

Rossi IRL

tinofapples wrote: »

When's it happening lads ???

July 2017

Trigger

tinofapples wrote: »

When's it happening lads ???

2017. Giggsy for life!

DM_7

LeeJM wrote: »

I love this line. Already getting in the excuses if we sign a world class player. It wont be because of Ed, it will be because Mendes decided we should have one cos of his mate Jose being hired. Should be working for The Sun or The Mirror being able to cover your a$$ so far in advance.

Be fair, Mendes has players not yet in the world class bracket yet and its highly likely Mendes players will end up at United if Jose does.

LeeJM

DM_7 wrote: »

Be fair, Mendes has players not yet in the world class bracket yet and its highly likely Mendes players will end up at United if Jose does.

Its also highly likely Mendes players will end up at United no matter who the manager is.

secman

Why are the board limiting the choice between Giggs and the one who loves one self? Board are really showing themselves as being inept in footy matters. .. no points awarded for sponsorship deals. .. becoming a right pain in the bo...ix FFS. ... we have the funds and just wasting funds .. time... ..patience wearing thin at this stage.

Mitch Connor

secman wrote: »

Why are the board limiting the choice between Giggs and the one who loves one self? Board are really showing themselves as being inept in footy matters. .. no points awarded for sponsorship deals. .. becoming a right pain in the bo...ix FFS. ... we have the funds and just wasting funds .. time... ..patience wearing thin at this stage.

Well, there are also reports that Pochetino is a favourite of the Glazers, impressed with what he has done with Spurs without spending a fortune. Simeone has also been , apparently pushed by one or two at United too.

The fact Mourinho isn't manager now, and neither is Giggs, would indicate it isn't just between them.

secman

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Well, there are also reports that Pochetino is a favourite of the Glazers, impressed with what he has done with Spurs without spending a fortune. Simeone has also been , apparently pushed by one or two at United too.

The fact Mourinho isn't manager now, and neither is Giggs, would indicate it isn't just between them.

Hopefully you are right. ..

Maximus Alexander

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Well, there are also reports that Pochetino is a favourite of the Glazers, impressed with what he has done with Spurs without spending a fortune. Simeone has also been , apparently pushed by one or two at United too.

The fact Mourinho isn't manager now, and neither is Giggs, would indicate it isn't just between them.

That's one of the most sensible posts in here in days.

StringerBell

LeeJM wrote: »

Its also highly likely Mendes players will end up at United no matter who the manager is.

It's like Mendes players have never played for United before, or do now!

StringerBell

Mendes and United, particularly Fergie, have had good relations for a long time.

“Jorge Mendes is the best agent I dealt with, without a doubt. He was responsible, looked after his player and was very fair with clubs” - Sir Alex Ferguson.

Who can forget the fishiest smelling deal in the clubs recent history, Bebe!

homerjay2005

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Well, there are also reports that Pochetino is a favourite of the Glazers, impressed with what he has done with Spurs without spending a fortune. Simeone has also been , apparently pushed by one or two at United too.

The fact Mourinho isn't manager now, and neither is Giggs, would indicate it isn't just between them.

doesnt justify LVG being kept in the job though, LVG could have been sacked in December and they would have had ample time to get a manager in until end of the season, if they didnt want to give it to Jose or Giggs.

Chelsea were able to get a short term interim solution that has worked for them (Grant, Hiddink and RDM in the past) for example, no reason why United couldnt have done the same. anything would be better that the current disaster, it literally can not get any worse and thats not even contemplating defeat tomorrow night which i dont think anybody is.

Mitch Connor

homerjay2005 wrote: »

doesnt justify LVG being kept in the job though, LVG could have been sacked in December and they would have had ample time to get a manager in until end of the season, if they didnt want to give it to Jose or Giggs.

Chelsea were able to get a short term interim solution that has worked for them (Grant, Hiddink and RDM in the past) for example, no reason why United couldnt have done the same. anything would be better that the current disaster, it literally can not get any worse and thats not even contemplating defeat tomorrow night which i dont think anybody is.

I agree.

I personally see no good reason for LVG to still be in the job after that run in december.

But I don't run United and my explanation is what I believe is the case, rather than how I wish it to be.