jayo26 wrote: » Welbeck is a center forward always has been but its just he aint good enough to lead the line so he gets played out wide because he has a good work rate and energy.
Irishcrx wrote: » Anyone know if the game is on TV tonight?
Flint Fredstone wrote: » BT only as far as I'm aware.
Julez wrote: » Its also on Setanta Ireland.
gosplan wrote: » Arsenal fan in peace. I'm glad we got Welbeck but he's nowhere near the finished article. His finishing and awareness still need a lot if work. However, much of what he lacks is made up for by his sheer athleticism. He's amazingly quick and strong for such a young and tall player. Arsenal signed him out of sheer necessity when Giroud got injured the day before the deadline. We had a fair amount of goals in the team at the time so his presence and physicality alone we're maybe enough to tide us over. As it stands though, he's really a sub option or first choice on the wing at times ... which still baffles me a bit. I think the tight gameplay that LVG plays needs a good striker and I think Welbz would have been very unsuited to it. That said results-based-thinking allows you to say that it hasn't worked and now with Rooney's injury, Welbeck would be most welcome. However I think if you went back a couple of months, Utd were scoring and creating very little, Rooney was injured then and the two chances being created per game we're being missed by Welbeck, people would equally have been freaking out.
bucketybuck wrote: » I think that if Wellbeck had been at a different club and played constantly as a striker from age 20 to 25, then he would have developed into a far better player and would easily have a goal record as good as a Sturridge or Kane. He has all the raw ability, but in his formative years he rarely ever got to play as a striker for any meaningful length of time, he never got 20/25 games in a row playing as a striker and being allowed to grow into it, instead he had to fit in around Rooney and Van Persie and make do with what he could. At this stage he may well be one of those that never reach their full potential, which is a shame but thats football. A different discussion completely is if United should have sold him or not, and in my mind the answer is definitely "not". A young, English versatile attacker with a lot of potential sold to a direct rival for relative peanuts, that was just a stupid sale, not least because Wellbeck would actually be a great asset for this current United setup, with his workrate and flexibility he would suit us perfectly.
bangkok wrote: » so he is a good all round player then? I think he is very good and has been a massive loss to us this season and last
Lord TSC wrote: » Guardian saying Felaini is out with a hamstring tear and is out for several weeks....
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » We talk more about Welbeck past 18months then any United player I reckon. Even Rooney, Martial and Carrick debates are finished within a day, Welbeck debates go on for days. Why? I have no idea. Im all for people discussing whatever they like, but its Dizzy Roundabouts at this stage.
Liam O wrote: » Great, surely United will win all their games now, like when he came off against Southampton. And when he came off against Chelsea. And when he didn't play against Sunderland. He was really holding the team back. Everything wrong with Woodward and Manchester United.
jayo26 wrote: » You forgot about nani
Maximus Alexander wrote: » We're gonna win the u21 league!
Maximus Alexander wrote: » Don't mention Nani.
beno619 wrote: » I certainly remember Korat for one and well as posters thanking posts of that sentiment. On the mobile right now but will fish up my own posts from that day this evening.
Korat wrote: It never ceases to amaze me how much of some opinions are obviously influenced by the UK media. Any time an English player has a decent game he's the best in the world, ignoring the fact that he's either been injured or ****e for most of his career up to that point. Funnily enough while the UK press loves their Roy of the Rovers stories they take every opportunity to denigrate their most genuinely talented players. It's all about selling print I suppose but I wish people wouldn't regurgitate the crap they spout without taking an objective view of it first. Welbeck is an injury prone mediocre footballer and Utd were right to move him on in my opinion, at the time. If he was Irish the UK press would have questioned how he deserved a move to Arsenal at all, much like when Shane Long was linked with Liverpool.
Korat wrote: Welbeck's finishing and touch were terrible at Utd. Maybe the coaching he gets at Arsenal will improve those but right now he's a bang average player as far I'm concerned. If he doesn't improve and the international goals dry up then the press will turn on him the way they did with Emile Heskey, who was a player of a similar standard imo. They build them up to knock them down.
Maximus Alexander wrote: » According to physioroom. 1|Borthwick-Jackson|Illness 2|Rooney|Knee Injury 3|Darmian|Dislocated Shoulder 4|Fellaini|Hamstring Injury 5|Varela|Knock 6|Januzaj|Hamstring Injury 7|Jones|Knock 8|Young|Groin/Pelvis Injury 9|Schweinsteiger|Knee Injury 10|Rojo|Dislocated Shoulder 11|Valencia|Ankle/Foot Injury 12|Shaw|Broken Leg Jesus.
bangkok wrote: » of course he would walk into our side, we are pretty **** in fairness. still don't think he is much better than mata if even better than him at all.
Mitch Connor wrote: » And LVG is saying he isn't going to recall Wilson. United are suffering for the stupidity of LVG - he created a small squad, and it is United that will suffer the effects of this for years - while he enjoys his retirement in Portugal.This was all so predictable. How LVG still has a job is beyond me.
Your Airbag wrote: » Fellaini now too? Christ, so much for that "state of the art medical clinic that can predict injuries 6 months before they happen" at Carrington. I haven't seen this many men go down since the gay marriage referendum celebrations in temple bar.
StringerBell wrote: » Why would he have to be competing with Mata though? Him on the right, Mata central and Martial or a functional Memphis on the left with Martial up top would be pretty impressive, on paper. James is a very good player, worth the ridiculous transfer fee? No of course not, but he didn't set that. He has a great delivery on him, great tricks and skills, quick feet and he is no slouch. In terms of a RW option if you want to compare him to Mata from that perspective he certainly would be a noticeable upgrade, but no reason they couldn't play in the same side.
bangkok wrote: » remember this line up.... think it was v Leicester away front 6 looked class on paper... the rest is history