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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

Lord TSC

Merry Xmas everyone.

Hopefully a new thread will see an upturn in fortunes :P

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Headshot

It will be great to see martial back up front now and possibly Mata behind him

bangkok

user2011 wrote: »

CBJ has gotten continuous run in the team because of Young's injury. Before that it was Young RB Darmien LB (I know he can play there IMO not to same level as RB) it should of been CBJ and Darmien with young pushed forward

and in fairness to CBJ he has grabbed his chance with both hands and hasn't looked back. fair play to him.

that's what fergie used to always say, he gives the young players their chance if they are good enough, but it is up to them to produce on the field

Giggsy11

Headshot wrote: »

It will be great to see martial back up front now and possibly Mata behind him

Time to give Keane few chances up top? I like Martial attacking from left wing. He gets so much room to dribble past players.

Will be interesting to see how we line up. Martial up top with Depay as winger or Keane up top with Martial as LWF.

bangkok

Headshot wrote: »

It will be great to see martial back up front now and possibly Mata behind him

he had good rhythm out on the wing and was a big threat from there and we were creating chances for rooney.

who do you play in the left then? Depay?! This could be his moment to finally turn the corner

[Deleted User]

Giggsy11 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DuckerTheTimes/status/699980869482778624

season over so!

user2011

bangkok wrote: »

and in fairness to CBJ he has grabbed his chance with both hands and hasn't looked back. fair play to him.

that's what fergie used to always say, he gives the young players their chance if they are good enough, but it is up to them to produce on the field

Hopefully for next season it's Shaw and CBJ for LB, no rojo,blind,Darmien near there. He has shown more then enough to be considered.

Giggsy11

user2011 wrote: »

Hopefully for next season it's Shaw and CBJ for LB, no rojo,blind,Darmien near there. He has shown more then enough to be considered.

Read CBJ is a CB too, hopefully he will adapt playing as CB otherwise he will be a back up forever.

Left footed CB would be gold mine (provided he is quality).

Quandary

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Good article by Daniel Harris on Van Gaal and Utds plight here if anyone is interested

http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2015-2016/louis-van-gaal-from-orgasmic-serial-killer-to-consummate-cluelessness_sto5181131/story.shtml

TheDoc wrote: »

One of the best pieces I've read this year.

One thing I have taken from Van Gaal in his time, is that he is not the manager I expected, in terms of the way he goes about his business. I thought he was a lot more charismatic when seeing him in previous years, or even videos of his Ajax and Barca days. I don't buy into the fan pandering managers who are all arms and waving, tactically organising their team for a ****ing throw in.

But I would have expected to see him on the sideline a few times roaring at someone, or an extravagant celebration here and there. What that article premises in the first few paragraphs, have we ever seen the real, genuine Louis Van Gaal at United?

Excellent read all right, and pretty much echoes what the vast majority of us here have been saying.

LVG has no business being at the club any more. Mourinho is the most sensible option now. He is desperate for the Utd job. It has been widely reported how much he covets it. I have heard all the counter arguments against him, most of which I disagree with, and I honestly think it would be a match made in heaven.

bangkok

Giggsy11 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DuckerTheTimes/status/699980869482778624

at least we still have van persie hernandez welbeck falcao that can play up front.....

user2011

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Read CBJ is a CB too, hopefully he will adapt playing as CB otherwise he will be a back up forever.

Left footed CB would be gold mine (provided he is quality).

Don't know much about him other then first team run outs, watching u21s completely dropped off the radar for the last few years for me.

Maximus Alexander

Quandary wrote: »

I have heard all the counter arguments against him, most of which I disagree with, and I honestly think it would be a match made in heaven.

I think he's a busted flush and he'd leave the club in even worse shape than he found it. It's funny how people's opinions can differ so much.

Mitch Connor

Rooney out for a month? Good thing LVG didn't leave us disgracefully short up front due to pathetic squad planning.

It's unreal the damage his stupidity has caused.

Mitch Connor

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Or he could have gone for safe option of playing Carrick/Schneiderlin as CB with Blind as LB.

IIRC CBJ played even when Young was not injured. It was when Shaw and Rojo were injured he played.

Edit: Just checked and I'm correct. CBJ played even when Young was not injured. So your point about CBJ getting chances only when 5 or 6 players were injured was completely wrong. It was Shaw and Rojo. He came on for Rojo when he made his debut and came on against Wolfsburg when Young was on bench.

LVG stated after that game that young wasn't fit, so wasn't brought on.

[Deleted User]

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Quandary

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

It's funny how people's opinions can differ so much.

And despite our contrasting opinions, we can still engage in a civil non heated discussion!

No digs at anyone btw

Headshot

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Time to give Keane few chances up top? I like Martial attacking from left wing. He gets so much room to dribble past players.

Will be interesting to see how we line up. Martial up top with Depay as winger or Keane up top with Martial as LWF.

Ya would like to see Keane get a few chances now.

bangkok wrote: »

he had good rhythm out on the wing and was a big threat from there and we were creating chances for rooney.

who do you play in the left then? Depay?! This could be his moment to finally turn the corner

I would give it to Depay, it could the making of him. A few continues games under the belt will give him great confidence

Maximus Alexander

Quandary wrote: »

And despite our contrasting opinions, we can still engage in a civil non heated discussion!

No digs at anyone btw

You have no idea what you're talking about! :pac:

StringerBell

StringerBell wrote: »

Memphis to play up front perhaps.

Is Rooney ill/injured? Can't imagine he is being rested tbh, competition is too important.

Martial up front that should have been, and Memphis to come in on the left, or Lingard to switch over, Mata back right and Herrera/Fellaini in the middle

I didn't get to check yet but I hear he could be out for a month? Great timing!

Lord TSC

If we say a month, thats Rooney gone from the EL games, Shrewsbury, Arsenal, Watford and West Brom. 1 month would have him back right before the City game, but given how he usually takes a few games to "get up to speed", he's probably gone for that too

Well, Martial's just become more crucial, if that was even possible. Can we recall Wilson outside of a transfer window?

Has Rooney played his last game for LVG? :P

Rossi IRL

1_2 months for Rooney and yes Wilson can be recalled.

Time for Martial to play ST and Delay/Pereira to play left wing

StringerBell

I can't help but be excited! So many possibilities running through my head right now regarding team selection but won't bother getting in to that!

Can forget about Rooney for a while now anyway, even if he gets back training and in the squad in 4 weeks it will be at least 6-8 weeks before he plays well again! If he is out for 2 months that gets even grimmer.

I hope we see Martial up top, Memphis has been ****e, but **** it now tell him this is it, this is his opportunity to turn around this **** storm of a first season he has had and make that position his own on the wing. Let him know he is going to have a run of games to make his mark and then its up to him.

Defensively we are pretty light tonight, Blind at left back maybe.

Maximus Alexander

StringerBell wrote: »

Defensively we are pretty light tonight, Blind at left back maybe.

Don't want to be the bearer of bad news but... It's only Wednesday.

Rossi IRL

I reckon Riley and Love will be the wing backs tomorrow, Smalling and Blind center back

jayo26

Thank god we have Will Keane back.........

Great call LVG..

ElChe32

Rossi IRL wrote: »

I reckon Riley and Love will be the wing backs tomorrow, Smalling and Blind center back

She's a wizz with maths but never had her pegged as a wing back...

StringerBell

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Don't want to be the bearer of bad news but... It's only Wednesday.

And what of it?! We are pretty light tonight, and we will be tomorrow too!! :pac:

The excitement has me skipping days

StringerBell

jayo26 wrote: »

Thank god we have Will Keane back.........

Great call LVG..

Tbf he has surprised me. I loved Will, but after that injury his progress really got stunted, he looked nothing special since and certainly didn't do much on loan to my eye anyway. He has shown enough in the under 21's you would think to get a shot though and see if he can bridge the gap a bit to the first team squad, wouldn't hold my breath but he deserves a shot and with Rooney out and Martial certain to be rested at some point soon he may very well get one.

[Deleted User]

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Good article by Daniel Harris on Van Gaal and Utds plight here if anyone is interested

http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2015-2016/louis-van-gaal-from-orgasmic-serial-killer-to-consummate-cluelessness_sto5181131/story.shtml

I disagree with a lot of that article tbh.

"The premier league has never been won with patient football". Yeah right, United from about 2009-now have been a patient buildup team and have a few PLs in that time. It seems like he's trying to say that Barcelona in 2009 or 2011 would never win the PL.

His criticism of Blind and Smalling is also very OTT. The defense looks worse than it is because of how bad the strikers are. Mistakes are magnified as there is nothing to take the heat off. Given the likes of Donald Love are suddenly getting games as full backs they are hardly getting much support from the full backs too.

A lot more that it would take too much time to dissect but a lot of criticism is based on conjecture, such as Fergie thinking Rooney was expendable and the talk of Rooney's wages.

He is right in what he said about the players sold however.

jayo26

ElChe32 wrote: »

She's a wizz with maths but never had her pegged as a wing back...

Rachel can play where ever she wants she wants she is club captain

[Deleted User]

StringerBell wrote: »

Tbf he has surprised me. I loved Will, but after that injury his progress really got stunted, he looked nothing special since and certainly didn't do much on loan to my eye anyway. He has shown enough in the under 21's you would think to get a shot though and see if he can bridge the gap a bit to the first team squad, wouldn't hold my breath but he deserves a shot and with Rooney out and Martial certain to be rested at some point soon he may very well get one.

Any player who can finish when given the chance is welcome and Keane has shown that, like with Rooney and Martial however can the team create the chances to feed him? His height is a bonus as he's a bit bigger than the players that have been there.