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Flightradar24 Thread Part III

Shannon757

Carnacalla wrote: »

747 inbound SNN. 19,000ft and decending.

Stobart about to turn for approach, wind 240 degrees 40kts G 49kts.

National are pretty regular visitors to Shannon.

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Shannon757

Can't be many left.

JCX BXC

Shannon757 wrote: »

Can't be many left.

Modern aircraft, old livery, same as the Aer Lingus Retro plane

arubex

Cello Aviation B734 inbound to Dublin on a sub for Wow Air. Not many of those old birds still in passenger service around here.

AndyP

Carnacalla wrote: »

Modern aircraft, old livery, same as the Aer Lingus Retro plane

It was a 737-300, not terribly modern

Grandeeod

AndyP wrote: »

It was a 737-300, not terribly modern

When was that one built?

AndyP

Grandeeod wrote: »

When was that one built?

1991

Shannon757

AndyP wrote: »

1991

And the Aer Lingus retro jet was built in 2011 so not really the same.

daelight

Carnacalla wrote: »

BRS has the same wind, BHX has an awkward runway angle. Pilots select their alternative before every takeoff, influenced by weather conditions, distance, runway, company preference and operational logistics to name a few. Why do ORK flights so often divert to SNN and not KIR?

Was really hoping for an answer from the crew but thanks anyway!

JCX BXC

daelight wrote: »

Was really hoping for an answer from the crew but thanks anyway!

The crew of that aircraft? Good luck!

If you mean someone more qualified, maybe try the Ask an airline pilot thread? They will likely tell you something similar to what I said.

pepe the prawn

Shannon757 wrote: »

http://www.flightradar24.com/N212AZ/8c2464f
Private ATR 42 into Shannon.

For those among us who are tinfoil hat wearing curtain twitchers :pac:

http://allnewspipeline.com/Strange_Surveillance_Plane_Over_MD_And_WV.php

Jack1985

daelight wrote: »

Was really hoping for an answer from the crew but thanks anyway!

There's a lot goes into this. For example signing in for work pilots will collect their OFP (Operating Flight Plan) before briefing.

Detailed in the OFP is 4 alternates in terms of priority e.g. from a Cork flight today; C1 EINN (Shannon) C2 EIDW (Dublin) C3 EGAA (Belfast Aldergrove) C4 EGGD (Bristol). Detailed in these 4 alternates will be the proposed routing, the estimated time, the estimated fuel burn, estimated distance, the calculated flight level etc.

Now it won't always be 4 alternates either, although where possible it usually will be. Included in the OFP will be en-route alternates on the actual proposed flight route, and as well as that forecast METARs for all these alternates, so the crew will discuss the weather, the proposed threats, and review the calculated fuel for the trip make adjustments where and if necessary prior to even leaving the crew room. Obviously this can also change again later down the line.

A scenario for example with the Ryanair flight that diverted today from Cardiff to Manchester and not to Bristol (BRS) could be;

1) Whats the latest wx, will we actually land if we divert to e.g. BRS
2) Will their be a further delay in arrival to the proposed diversion point
3) Are the resources their to look after us when we land (Even if the airline already flies to e.g. BRS, lack of stands and local crewing of ground handlers at the particular time can actually see diversions not suitable)

The majority of crews into Cork will nearly 99% of the time go for Shannon; Kerry is nearly all the time unsuitable you have about 2 stands available, and restricted operational hours a nightmare for crew planners.

Here's a good little reminder of how quick the preferred alternate can disappear very quickly, and how fuel planning during forecast bad weather is absolutely crucial. You'll hear in this how both Aer Lingus and Ryanair crews engage with their company to discuss the current preferred alternates taking into account points 1 to 3.

jimbis

Must be nice to have your own 767.

Irish Steve

And before someone else comments, FR24 had the destination wrong, it landed in EWR (Newark) at 07:43

reforger

BA 69 diverting to Dublin.

JCX BXC

reforger wrote: »

BA 69 diverting to Dublin.

Hmm, unusual considering the usual diversion point is SNN.

Anyone have any idea about the nature of the emergency?

fr336

Carnacalla wrote: »

Hmm, unusual considering the usual diversion point is SNN.

Anyone have any idea about the nature of the emergency?

They're not squawking an emergency callsign. Am keeping a listen out.

fr336

Medical emergency, were you the Ryanair who just asked the nature of the emergency for "planning purposes", Carnacalla?

Comhrá

According toTwitter it says "the needs of a passenger" I'm surmising it's medical?

fr336

tippman1 wrote: »

According toTwitter it says "the needs of a passenger" I'm surmising it's medical?

Affirm.

JCX BXC

On the android Flight radar app on my phone they have done this awful thing with the altitudes where they have tried to do a blended drop, so basically listing all the numbers between eg 2000ft and 1500ft rather than just the single drop, but its awful. Very inconsistent and quite annoying.

Anyone else have any it?

Shannon Control

The passenger was unconscious and became conscious on their way towards Dublin, don't know the reason of him being unconscious though.

eastmayo

Shannon Control wrote: »

The passenger was unconscious and became conscious on their way towards Dublin, don't know the reason of him being unconscious though.

Just took off again from Dublin. Seems to be heading back to Heathrow maybe?how come it's not heading back to philadelphia

JCX BXC

eastmayo wrote: »

Just took off again from Dublin. Seems to be heading back to Heathrow maybe?how come it's not heading back to philadelphia

Crew may be out of hours, that strikes me as a possible reason.

Cessna_Pilot

Carnacalla wrote: »

Crew may be out of hours, that strikes me as a possible reason.

Would put money on that. Back to LHR and new crew change then off again I would imagine! Long night for the pax, luckily they're not subject to the FTLs

EchoIndia

eastmayo wrote: »

Just took off again from Dublin. Seems to be heading back to Heathrow maybe?how come it's not heading back to philadelphia

Customs and Immigration at PHL would have been closed at revised time of arrival, hence return to LHR. Dublin ATC asked them on departure!

arubex

15:20 BLCF just coasted-out over Liverpool and heading NW to Drogheda or Dundalk ( FR heading a bit erratic at the momemt )

http://fr24.com/GTI4231/8c6fb4a

Being chased at the port stern by another Atlas-operated aircraft, B763 N640GT.

My name is URL

arubex wrote: »

15:20 BLCF just coasted-out over Liverpool and heading NW to Drogheda or Dundalk ( FR heading a bit erratic at the momemt )

http://fr24.com/GTI4231/8c6fb4a

Being chased at the port stern by another Atlas-operated aircraft, B763 N640GT.

Just saw them flying overhead and thought I'd check them out on FlightRadar

Shannon757

There is an Air Canada 767 due to land in a few minutes. End of lease maybe?

JCX BXC

Shannon757 wrote: »

There is an Air Canada 767 due to land in a few minutes. End of lease maybe?

Into where?

Shannon757

Carnacalla wrote: »

Into where?

Shannon.