Herb Powell wrote: » The law is bolloccks, and the people making smug references to alcoholism are missing the point completely.
The Backwards Man wrote: » Yeah, you're right, alcohol is much more important than food. I love the old shift work analogy too, it makes me smile. Take London for example, how many 24 hour pubs are there in that city of ten million people? Eight? Ten? Something like that anyway. If you can find me one shift worker in any of those that are open at 3am any morning in the next week I will give you Stg£1000. Queen's head.
The Backwards Man wrote: » There's plenty more drink related problems besides alcoholism. The inability to forward plan seems to be a major one for a lot of folk.:pac:
"511 wrote: » Secondly, I cut my own hair but waiting until to next day for a haircut won't kill me. Hair grows very slowly, in case you haven't noticed Is there an alternative to alcohol? No, so why do you keep making these idiotic analogies? You continue to compare chalk and cheese. Because there's obviously demand for 24 off-licenses. Duh!
511 wrote: » How would you know? Have you surveyed 1000 night shift workers to rule out the margin of error? No doubt this is completely anecdotal data you just made up. What if they want to have a drink before they go to bed? No point drinking during the day if they have to work later again. Except nurses who work for 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. How would they look bringing alcohol into a hospital? Imagine walking into a hospital with a bag of cans at 8 p.m., storing them in a cupboard somewhere and the cans being at room temperature by the time they get home? It's just so much easier to visit a off-license when you finish work. In the city, they have no problem, but no-one if forcing them to stay open 24, they should have to freedom to close whenever they want, which would reduce to costs. Why don't you get over the fact that there's nothing wrong with 24 off-licenses I don't drink and I don't work night shifts, I just despise the government trying to control every inch of our lives, especially when to ulterior motive here is the protect a dying pub trade.
Boskowski wrote: » If it bothers you that much maybe a couple of nights off the juice is just what you need.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » I'm sure you've read lots of evidence to justify your absolute certainty.
thattequilagirl wrote: » - Not drinking for a night won't kill anyone either
thattequilagirl wrote: » - There are loads of alternative things to do apart from alcohol
thattequilagirl wrote: » - There's demand for heroin and Coke too... apart from all being a drug, that point has no relevance to the discussion. try again. c montgomery wrote: » Yawn How does it discriminate against people who work nights? Off licences are closed at night when people work nights!! If anything it's easier for people who work nights to nip to the offie during the day. Just buy a few bottles/cans and keep them in the house for when you want them. Poor planning on your part does not constitute discrimination the restrictions are anti-competitive and protectionism of the publican. thats the only reason they exist. c montgomery wrote: » Even if off licences were allowed to operate 24 hours I bet most wouldn't as demand would not be there to justify the costs of staying open. fine, that would be up to them. however they would have the choice. c montgomery wrote: » Just get over it and buy some to have in the house for "emergency" situations. no, we won't "get over it" publican. we won't be coming back to your pub and no matter how many anti-competitive laws you get your little government friends to bring in, we won't be back. your finished. c montgomery wrote: » You have no evidence of the demand for 24 hour off licences either. lets remove the restrictions and see. c montgomery wrote: » You sound like a bit of a Muppet oh, resorting to personal abuse now your arguments have been debunked. well done sir, i wondered how long it would be before you resorted to that. The Backwards Man wrote: » They're open long enough. they aren't. only publicans or nanny state supporters would think otherwise. the days of everyone going home at 5 pm went years ago. this is about protectionism of the publicans so they can continue ripping off people. The Backwards Man wrote: » As someone who likes a drink meself, the childish relationship many people have with alcohol never ceases to amaze me. a small few at most. the rest are right to be annoyed over restrictions that are blatent protectionism of the publicans, and that are anti-competitive. The Backwards Man wrote: » If it was a banana or a head of lettuce you'd have to wait until the shop opened, but if it's a bottles of cheap suds lets throw our toys out of the pram and cry like big babies. if it was a shop they could open when they liked, for as long as they liked. if you wanted to get a banana or a head of lettuce, you could find out where the 24 hour shop is and drive to it. try again. The Backwards Man wrote: » People are idiots. Who knew? his point is still correct, it proves restrictions don't work. The Backwards Man wrote: » Why is it so wrong to buy your alcohol at a time when the off licenses are open? why shouldn't he be able to buy it at his convenience, and why shouldn't the off licence decide when its best for their business to open and shut? The Backwards Man wrote: » If alcohol has that much control over your life that you can't treat its purchase the same as you could a bit of good butcher meat foe the dinner, a trip to the cinema or a haircut, then I don't think it's meant for you. and this everyone, proves the likes of him have no valid argument. "begorra yarra must be an alcoholic for wanting to be able to buy at your own convenience begod" . i would say simply this is a chap who wishes to be able to buy at his own convenience. The Backwards Man wrote: » You say why do they have to close, I say why do they have to stay open? i say why shouldn't they not be able to open and shut when they feel its best for their business? why are you so concerned that some realize restrictions on alcohol are blatent protectionism and nothing more, and don't actually work? if anything, its those who want to keep the restrictions dispite there being no argument to do so, and evidence that they have no effect, that are the problem.
c montgomery wrote: » Yawn How does it discriminate against people who work nights? Off licences are closed at night when people work nights!! If anything it's easier for people who work nights to nip to the offie during the day. Just buy a few bottles/cans and keep them in the house for when you want them. Poor planning on your part does not constitute discrimination
c montgomery wrote: » Even if off licences were allowed to operate 24 hours I bet most wouldn't as demand would not be there to justify the costs of staying open.
c montgomery wrote: » Just get over it and buy some to have in the house for "emergency" situations.
c montgomery wrote: » You have no evidence of the demand for 24 hour off licences either.
c montgomery wrote: » You sound like a bit of a Muppet
The Backwards Man wrote: » They're open long enough.
The Backwards Man wrote: » As someone who likes a drink meself, the childish relationship many people have with alcohol never ceases to amaze me.
The Backwards Man wrote: » If it was a banana or a head of lettuce you'd have to wait until the shop opened, but if it's a bottles of cheap suds lets throw our toys out of the pram and cry like big babies.
The Backwards Man wrote: » People are idiots. Who knew?
The Backwards Man wrote: » Why is it so wrong to buy your alcohol at a time when the off licenses are open?
The Backwards Man wrote: » If alcohol has that much control over your life that you can't treat its purchase the same as you could a bit of good butcher meat foe the dinner, a trip to the cinema or a haircut, then I don't think it's meant for you.
The Backwards Man wrote: » You say why do they have to close, I say why do they have to stay open?
511 wrote: » Except nurses who work for 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. How would they look bringing alcohol into a hospital? Imagine walking into a hospital with a bag of cans at 8 p.m., storing them in a cupboard somewhere and the cans being at room temperature by the time they get home? It's just so much easier to visit a off-license when you finish work.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » My evidence is purely anecdotal, but I can tell you that there have been many nights when I and many of my friends are heading to a college session at 9/9.30 and go nuts on multipacks in case we end up pulling an all nighter. If they were open 24/7 we'd buy far less and just wander back if we actually wanted more (but the effort of having to make the trip would ensure that we'd think twice about whether we really wanted to do it). Of course this wouldn't change for people who live far away from offies, but if you're in the city and there's an offie next door which is constantly open, you're not going to buy massive crates.
Taylor365 wrote: » Fly to London and pick up a few tins. Be back in time for kippers!
deco nate wrote: » But not for those that have posted from a pub during a lock in eh? See that's one of the downers in living in a city. Less chance of a lock in. Lucky you;)
thattequilagirl wrote: » Most people here must live in central Dublin - I have loads of friends who work shifts in Galway who don't have loads of 24 hour shops local to them - apart from maybe a petrol station. Poor guys have to organize their food shopping, booze shopping, and all their other messages by 10pm as shops aren't open after that down the country. Somehow, they survive!
end of the road wrote: » the shops could open 24 hours if they wanted to and there was the demand. off licences can't to try protect the publicans. try again.
endacl wrote: » Pedantic hat on, and probably a tangent, but, aside from that most excellent 1995 album by Paradise Lost, how can a time (as in o'clock, as opposed to period, epoch, or era) be described as 'draconian'? I don't think draconian means what you think it means, OP....
thattequilagirl wrote: » - There's demand for heroin and Coke too...
thattequilagirl wrote: » No need for me to "try again". My point is that it's perfectly possible to organise it so that you get your booze, food and anything else you need within regular business hours - and that point stands.
The Backwards Man wrote: » They're open long enough. As someone who likes a drink meself, the childish relationship many people have with alcohol never ceases to amaze me.
buried wrote: » Question for the posters in here who see no problem with the 10 pm off-licence closing hour. What do ye think the reason is that the off-licences have to close on the dot at 10 pm? I mean, ye see no problem with the closure hour, you agree with it, so, what's the logic or reason for it? There must be some reason as some of you strongly agree with it. I can't see the reasoning in it at all so I'd like to hear why does the 10 pm closure hour make sense to some of you folks?
K-9 wrote: » It isn't something I feel strongly about and I have been inconvenienced by it on the past. The same opening hours as pubs would make sense. I just don't see why people get bothered by it, rants about Government and publicans. As I said before, off licences are everywhere these days so that balances the hours for me.
