2016 RTE Drama: Rebellion - no spoilers please (mod warning in post #1)

Shannon757 wrote: »

I wonder what will happen next time?

The British will bring in more troops and start shelling the O'Connell Street area. I would imagine Jimmy will be in the GPO when it starts to burn and escapes into Moore Street with Pearse and Connolly before they surrender to the British.

lukin

FFS,two episodes in and still no sign of Mick Collins.Get the finger out RTE.

super_furry

Absolutely loving it, best thing from RTE in years. Like how they haven't just resorted to the easy option of making it a black and white story and that's there's sympathetic characters on both sides.

gandalf

Pretty underwhelming so far. The first episode was ok but this weeks as others have said was very flat. Too many wooden performances from the actors.

Ok this is probably because I know the locations but it was off putting to see the new pavement and road in front of the GPO, the double yellow lines were unforgivable. Although I thought the house in Marley Park looked well.

Thought that was decent.

Still hate Liz's brother with a passion. Terrible character, terrible actor. Hope he gets killed twice.

Some pretty cool shots of them in City Hall and on the rooftops.

Seems a bit like they've over reached with the number of characters but it looks like they're all coming together now with the army soldiers getting ready to march.

I don't want to be one of those people that picks fault for the sake of it but the surface in O'Connell St wad a bit obvious. They could have thrown some dirt or something on it at least.

Also.... when Hammond and Mae were heading back to the Castle and crossing the bridge you could see the Four Courts in the background. Did the rebels not in there too?

lukin wrote: »

FFS,two episodes in and still no sign of Mick Collins.Get the finger out RTE.

1) pretty sure we saw him last week.

2) other than being present he didn't play that big a part in the Rising so why would we see much of him?

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Thought it was OK but you didn't quite get the sense of panic and urgency from tonights episode. It may be that the movement wasn't taken seriously enough at this point. Although I'd imagine that things will crank up from next week with British reinforcement about to storm the occupied areas en masse. Truth be told the real story is told after the rising though.

KingBrian2

lukin wrote: »

FFS,two episodes in and still no sign of Mick Collins.Get the finger out RTE.

He came later at this Point Dev was a more pivotal player than he was.

weadick wrote: »

Pretty underwhelming charge at the GPO.

No sign of young Indiana Jones either.

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prionnsias wrote: »

I actually thought that was aright. There was a bit more going on than last week. It's probably as good as you're going to get from an Irish made drama.

We're a bit too quick to knock our own. Same on the love/hate thread and same on the Charlie thread.

I'd say if the Wire was made in Ireland by RTE we'd still bitch about it.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We're a bit too quick to knock our own. Same on the love/hate thread and same on the Charlie thread.

I'd say if the Wire was made in Ireland by RTE we'd still bitch about it.

Agreed. It's not perfect but it's nowhere near as bad as some people seem to want it to be.

KingBrian2

QUOTE=Deleted User;98368381]Thought it was OK but you didn't quite get the sense of panic and urgency from tonights episode. It may be that the movement wasn't taken seriously enough at this point. Although I'd imagine that things will crank up from next week with British reinforcement about to storm the occupied areas en masse. Truth be told the real story is told after the rising though.[/QUOTE]

I'll be reading up on 1916 this year to recap on the event but as far as I know the Helga starts blasting the Quays destroying much of the buildings. Mayhem and pandemonium follows and the battles grow fierce. The scene in Michael Collins which depicted the civil war scenes. On that scale the city witnesses its bloodiest hours.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Thought that was decent.

Still hate Liz's brother with a passion. Terrible character, terrible actor. Hope he gets killed twice.

Some pretty cool shots of them in City Hall and on the rooftops.

Seems a bit like they've over reached with the number of characters but it looks like they're all coming together now with the army soldiers getting ready to march.

I don't want to be one of those people that picks fault for the sake of it but the surface in O'Connell St wad a bit obvious. They could have thrown some dirt or something on it at least.

Also.... when Hammond and Mae were heading back to the Castle and crossing the bridge you could see the Four Courts in the background. Did the rebels not in there too?

There were rebels inside but you wouldn't have seen them from the outside since they would have been taking cover. There wasn't any fighting on the Liffey quays until troops started closing in on the city centre.

not yet

Anyone else notice a pallet of onions just inside the train (fruit market) station..

Chas Murphy is out on her own in this production.

KingBrian2 wrote: »

QUOTE=Deleted User;98368381]Thought it was OK but you didn't quite get the sense of panic and urgency from tonights episode. It may be that the movement wasn't taken seriously enough at this point. Although I'd imagine that things will crank up from next week with British reinforcement about to storm the occupied areas en masse. Truth be told the real story is told after the rising though.

I'll be reading up on 1916 this year to recap on the event but as far as I know the Helga starts blasting the Quays destroying much of the buildings. Mayhem and pandemonium follows and the battles grow fierce. The scene in Michael Collins which depicted the civil war scenes. On that scale the city witnesses its bloodiest hours.[/quote]

The Helga wasn't a battleship. It was a fishery inspection boat with a small artillery fun on the now. It only shelled Liberty Hall at point blank range. The British wheeled guns into Phibsborough and Trinity College and it was from there that the GPO and the O'Connell Street area were shelled.

josephryan1989 wrote: »

No sign of young Indiana Jones either.

It just came out of nowhere. No sense of anticipation or build up. Nothing from inside the GPO which apparently was pandemonium when the rebels first entered. It just looked a bit lazy and rushed, not much thought went into it. The depiction in Rebel Heart was actually much better.

lukin

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

1) pretty sure we saw him last week.

2) other than being present he didn't play that big a part in the Rising so why would we see much of him?

Yep you are right;it's true he only played a small part in the rising . I'm only taking the p###.

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not yet wrote: »

Anyone else notice a pallet of onions just inside the train (fruit market) station..

Chas Murphy is out on her own in this production.

Think Charlie Murphy is way too OTT and melodramatic in everything tbh

Pretzill

I think it was pretty poor tonight. Last week's opening episode had promise -and I know it's a fictional portrayal but you can't help saying ah that's not working - the looting scenes were very amateurish but that was directorial - too few people and tenement community portrayed as preferring to loot hat shops than the grocers!

It all seemed lacking - not enough extras - not enough pandamonium -
It's like a period drama gone wrong - I think my opinion is coloured by the fact that it is billed as part of the 1916 commemorations - had this been shown some years ago as a drama\soap set around this period I probably would put my historical opinion aside - and buy into the characters - as it is I haven't really engaged with these people yet.

Pretzill wrote: »

I think it was pretty poor tonight. Last week's opening episode had promise -and I know it's a fictional portrayal but you can't help saying ah that's not working - the looting scenes were very amateurish but that was directorial - too few people and tenement community portrayed as preferring to loot hat shops than the grocers!

It all seemed lacking - not enough extras - not enough pandamonium -
It's like a period drama gone wrong - I think my opinion is coloured by the fact that it is billed as part of the 1916 commemorations - had this been shown some years ago as a drama\soap set around this period I probably would put my historical opinion aside - and buy into the characters - as it is I haven't really engaged with these people yet.

Agree with everything you've said there.

It bares all the hallmarks of something that was commissioned at the last minute and rushed together to get made for 2016.

weadick wrote: »

It just came out of nowhere. No sense of anticipation or build up. Nothing from inside the GPO which apparently was pandemonium when the rebels first entered. It just looked a bit lazy and rushed, not much thought went into it. The depiction in Rebel Heart was actually much better.

Well in reality there was no dramatic music. Dubliners would have seen a bunch of strange looking guys dressed in green with rifles run in the door of the GPO and then some weird looking dude with a wonky right eye and a lisp would have read from a big sheet. I bet some onlookers were laughing and joking while others would have walked by like nothing was happening.

Deleted User wrote: »

Think Charlie Murphy is way too OTT and melodramatic in everything tbh

I'd say the opposite, to be honest. I think she's quite reserved, if that's the right word, but it can come across a bit weird when everyone else around her is frantic as hell. If there's one thing I would complain about with this production is there's too much going on. A few quieter scenes before it all kicked off with a few of the characters actually having a conversation about things, ethics of it all, might have helped. As is it feels a bit like they've thrown us into the middle of something. I know we're supposed to be in the middle of the Rising but a bit more time establishing characters wouldn't have hurt, I think. Then again there's an awful lot of them to establish.

josephryan1989 wrote: »

Well in reality there was no dramatic music. Dubliners would have seen a bunch of strange looking guys dressed in green with rifles run in the door of the GPO and then some weird looking dude with a wonky right eye and a lisp would have read from a big sheet. I bet some onlookers were laughing and joking while others would have walked by like nothing was happening.

Michael Collins tied up a policeman and locked him in a telephone box.

There would have been confrontation with staff in the GPO as well as throwing out the people that were already in there.

This is a lot more like Charlie. Too many characters and plotlines rushed together. Hope it improves otherwise it's going to be one epic waste of 6m.

LordSutch

Why have so many of the British soldiers got Irish accents?

LordSutch wrote: »

Why have all the British soldiers have Irish accents?

Because they're Irish?

MilesMorales1

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Because they're Irish?

Was the first soldiers deployed against the rebels not Irish soldiers (in a british regiment?)