Coles wrote: »
LeinsterDub wrote: » Based on what? There's numerous Gael schools in Dublin, clubs and Gaelic nights in Dublin.
LordSutch wrote: » Is there a point to broadcasting the Rugby Union Six nations in Irish only Seems totally daft to me. Thank God for the BBC.
LordSutch wrote: » Phew, thank goodness for that.
Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: » Strange for someone supposedly interested in Rugby that you didn't actually know what channel it is broadcasted on.Sounds like you were almost complaining for the sake of it.
LordSutch wrote: » Paranoid or what :rolleyes: I don't know what Irish TV channel it's broadcast on, but I thought I read back a page or two that the Rugby was going to be on TG4 'in Irish'. Obviously it isnt - sorted.
Coles wrote: » Lord Sutch hates people who even speak with an Irish accent. Silly little briton.
Coles wrote: » No, it is. But you don't know what competitions because you haven't a clue about the game. You silly little british fraud.
smurgen wrote: » Jesus man,take a chill pill.it's is not life or death.
ToddyDoody wrote: » Moderators, time to declare a winner?
appledrop wrote: » I think the biggest problem with Irish is the fact that it is compulsory in school right up until your Leaving Cert. When people have no 'choice' but to learn a subject that a lot of people think is irrelevant they resent it. I often think that I might have actually liked Irish if I had the choice to pick it as a subject rather than have it rammed down my neck. It is also taught very badly. I did very well in my Leaving Cert but Irish was the one subject I did at Ordinary level. How come I can speak French perfectly well after learning if for only 5 years yet my Irish is woeful and I spent 13 years learning it. I remember in French class for the Leaving Cert we were learning about interesting current affairs topics to speak about in or oral exam and written exams. In Irish we were learning these ancient poems and stories that were totally irrelevant to 17 and 18 year old students. It needs to modernise it's self big time and stop relying on all the old fashioned poems, songs and stories. Basically as far as I'm concerned it's biggest problem is that it is a 'dead language' and has no place in the modern world as it's not moving forward and changing in the way that French, Spanish, English and all other languages are.
appledrop wrote: » How come I can speak French perfectly well after learning if for only 5 years yet my Irish is woeful and I spent 13 years learning it. I remember in French class for the Leaving Cert we were learning about interesting current affairs topics to speak about in or oral exam and written exams. In Irish we were learning these ancient poems and stories that were totally irrelevant to 17 and 18 year old students.
Shep_Dog wrote: » The difference is that learning French connects you to a living culture. Learning Irish connects to a dead culture and society. The Irish language is a vestigial relic of a culture that died a long tome ago.
Qualitymark wrote: » Trouble with all the "Oh dear, I learned Irish for all those years and the bad teachers made me hate it" people is that they give the impression abroad that Irish people aren't too bright.
Dughorm wrote: » But I'm delighted you acknowledge that language does "connect" to culture and society,
LeinsterDub wrote: » Given the other thread it was surprising to the level of hatred for Irish. Having been over in Wales recently the English speakers would generally be apathetic to Welsh. No one seemed to hate it. Why do people hate a language so much? Cen faith mar is fuair a lán daoine Gaeilge?
The_Minister wrote: » I have a massive chip on my shoulder over having to learn that language. It was the source of endless hours of suffering for me - I cannot put into words what a negative impact having to learn Irish had on my childhood, and that isn't an exaggeration. It was taught in such an awful manner that my knowledge of French surpasses it by a mile, even though I put a fraction of the time into it. It was the subject that made the least sense, took the most work, was the least fun and the least rewarding. It shook my confidence in my intelligence, and made me feel like an idiot for at least an hour every day. It took time from subjects with some usefulness and set back my academic life overall. It represented hours of frustration and heartache, over something I knew all along was absolutely worthless. I'm older now, and I no longer want to burn down the Gaeltacht, but the way the language is taught needs to be radically overhauled, in particular, not having the language taught by teachers with only a passing knowledge of the language.
