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it's grand?

Asmooh

I'm living here for almost a year now and I do understand what it means but I don't.

When someone says "grand" to me I expect to get 1000 euro's or so.. but I never do, but specially in other terms and words why saying "grand".

It's grand = It's okay? or it's great?
Why not use those two.

When I search on Google I get "slang", so I searched what the hell slang is.
And there are two options

attack (someone) using abusive language.

a type of language consisting of words and phrases that are regarded as very informal, are more common in speech than writing, and are typically restricted to a particular context or group of people.

Wiki tels me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang

"It's a taboo term in ordinary discourse with people of a higher social status or greater responsibility."

On the other hand, slang tends to emphasize social and contextual understanding. The expression "down size" is an example of jargon, while the adjective "gnarly" is an example of slang. "Down size" originated from 1990's era corporate jargon, as a euphemistic way to talk about layoffs.

I never grew up with those words that's why I ask.

also: http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/slang/proper-english-versus-slang.html

Anyway, why the slang instead of proper English?

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TheBigGreen

It's grand lawd

The Backwards Man

Grand day for the race

Falcon L

circadian wrote: »

Aye, dead on.

Stickin' out a mile.

The Backwards Man

Falcon L wrote: »

Stickin' out a mile.

Wee buns.

pickarooney

Asmooh wrote: »

Proper is what people should speak in London that are born and raised there and not living in a "cheaper" neighbourhood, as well as British was in the 1800's. For me, that is proper

Also, Google tells me it is "1000": https://www.google.ie/search?q=what+is+a+grand

You're 'avin a giraffe, mate.

Junkyard Tom

When ye goooooooe will ye send baaack a lettur fruuum America
Take a looooooke at the rail track, frum Miami to Can-a-da.

kfallon

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

When ye goooooooe will ye send baaack a lettur fruuum America
Take a looooooke at the rail track, frum Miami to Can-a-da.

Oh you big bastard, now I'm singing along :mad:

Mesrine65

Asmooh wrote: »

But after visiting Belfast a few times I notice they speak more proper over there, bit different compare to my friends in England but it sounds more proper.

Don't be minding those feckers, they don't speak proper English like what we do

harry Bailey esq

It basically means everything is irie Mon.

Samaris

It's just one of those words. Maybe a bit like "stout" in Dutch, where it's got a faintly negative sense to it now, as in "bold/naughty", but it used to mean "bold/brave".

Actually, that's a bit of an odd one in English too, since "bold" used to mean "brave", but now means "naughty". Grand (and "great" too) used to mean (and mostly still does elsewhere) big or large, as in French grande, but is commonly used here as "good".

Other more widespread slang with a similar journey would be "epic" or "awesome", both of which should give an indication of scale rather than being "good".

Think of "I'm grand!" as meaning "I am (largely) content."

Interestingly, we have it at the other end too - fine indicates something is small, precise, delicate - a fine thread, fine weaving. "Fine weaving" in the most literal sense means that it is woven using very small threads in a very precise manner, but nowadays could be used more loosely to mean "that is very nice weaving".

Alf Veedersane

Asmooh wrote: »

But after visiting Belfast a few times I notice they speak more proper over there, bit different compare to my friends in England but it sounds more proper.

Maybe the interpreter just spoke more pwapah

Asmooh

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Maybe the interpreter just spoke more pwapah

I was at the store, not going on a tour

Alf Veedersane

Asmooh wrote: »

I was at the store, not going on a tour

And you understood the natives?

Colour me impressed.

stoneill

Grand stretch in the evening.

Asmooh

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

And you understood the natives?

Colour me impressed.

Yes, no problem at all.

youtheman

My son spent a year in the U.S. and he found that he always had to explain himself when he was asked how he was and replied 'Grand'.

I think the origin of the use of this phrase is tied to the Irish propensity to be 'middle of the road'. If you told someone you were feeling bad, then they'd be obliged to delve a bit further. If you told then you were 'great' then they'd wonder why you were great (and they weren't). But 'grand' means 'I'm not boasting or complaining, I'm happy to keep my head down and not bring attention to myself - move on'.

imitation

I like to think it came into use because as a nation of sarcastic feckers, the word Grand which is used to describe something impressively large, seemed juuust perfect for describing your slightly dry roast dinner or hungover Sunday.

How else would have a word that would be used to desribe goings on in London, Paris or New York, end up some commonly used in plain ole Ireland unless we were being our Ironic selves.

traprunner

Asmooh wrote: »

But after visiting Belfast a few times I notice they speak more proper over there, bit different compare to my friends in England but it sounds more proper.

So it doesn't sound like this to you?

MRnotlob606

Asmooh wrote: »

Oh and I was just wondering, my English is not perfect, but I guess your Dutch is not either.
I always, (specially in real life) trying to say all the words that should be said correctly.

So no slang, no missing letters.. while on internet I write "won't" instead of "will not" but "grand".. the first few months I was here I just ignored it and guessed.

But after visiting Belfast a few times I notice they speak more proper over there, bit different compare to my friends in England but it sounds more proper.

WOW we got a badass over here.

[Deleted User]

The King of Moo wrote: »

I had my doubts at first, but now I'm convinced you're trolling.

Well,

Asmooh wrote: »

When I search on Google I get "slang", so I searched what the hell slang is.

and

Asmooh wrote: »

gosh that slang language, really bad.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=95486398

Paddy Samurai

Depending on how its used , Grand is "proper english".

Grand is also a synonym for Splendid,Glorious , Superb etc.

MRnotlob606

Look at you Dutch, Too busy smoking pot whilst simultaneously banging each other in canals to care about informal colloquial language.

Paddy Samurai

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Look at you Dutch, Too busy smoking pot whilst simultaneously banging each other in canals to care about informal colloquial language.

I think its all jealously TBH.

All because we have the Grand canal.;)

Vinculus

Yeah right!

kettlehead

Asmooh wrote: »

I was at the store, not going on a tour

You're obviously needed here as an Irish/Dutch speaker. Do you enjoy life here?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I don't get what the issue is. An accepted use of (and dictionary definition for) grand is a noun meaning very pleasing, wonderful or splendid. So a reply of "Grand" is tantamount to splendid, wonderful, great...
It's not slang and it's not local dialect. It's just English vocabulary.

A grand day. A wonderful day. Same

harry Bailey esq

Paddy Samurai wrote: »

I think its all jealously TBH.

All because we have the Grand canal.;)

Royal canal beats the 'grand' canal for me. I spent many happy times down there smoking 'pot' and boozing and shaggin along its banks in my teens,just like our Dutch cousins.Your canal has streetwalkers and more drug dealers than you could shake a syringe at,I'll grant yiz that, but you have to pay.My canal you can do the same, but for free.That's the south side for you I suppose, nothin is for free there.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Asmooh wrote: »

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But after visiting Belfast a few times I notice they speak more proper over there, bit different compare to my friends in England but it sounds more proper.

So every shop assistant you asked if you "want a wee bag for this" or said "put your wee card in there" was speaking proper English?

And beginning most sentences with "Ach" seemed more correct too?

And they are far from averse to using "Grand" up there too.

Stojkovic

Sometimes it just means fuggedaboutit.

Stojkovic

Sometimes it just means fuggedaboutit.