Absolam wrote: » You'll be happy for the pro-life brigade/posse/gang (whichever shows up first) to refer to you as the pro-death camp, or the anti-life lobby? The deliberate use of provocative terms to describe the opposite side of a discussion adds nothing more than snarkiness... it certainly does not lend any credibility to your position, quite the opposite.
frag420 wrote: » I think it's great that she was afforded that choice. Same way as if she had opted for an abortion.....
frag420 wrote: » Well if supporting women when it comes to giving them autonomy over their own bodies, giving them choice.......
frag420 wrote: » Well if supporting women when it comes to giving them autonomy over their own bodies, giving them choice.......heck the anti choice brigade can call me what they like, it does not upset me or bother me in any way. How this is an issue now considering that's how I have been referring to them since I joined the thread......well there is a mystery worthy of a bible story!!
La Fenetre wrote: » Just as long as they don't have the body of a female child . . . . then they can be terminated.
Delirium wrote: »
Absolam wrote: » I'm not sure why you think dreaming up pejorative terms for people in some way is supporting women when it comes to giving them autonomy over their own bodies, giving them choice, but you obviously think you've thought it through....
La Fenetre wrote: » Are female children not aborted ? Do they have no rights ?
Delirium wrote: » where did frag suggest that females should be aborted?
La Fenetre wrote: » Are female children not aborted ?
Delirium wrote: » Foetuses that are female or male can be aborted. What's your point?
La Fenetre wrote: » So only adult females have the right to bodily integrity, but female children that are aborted shouldn't have ?
frag420 wrote: » Dreaming? No idea what you are on about? Are they anti choice? YES Is there more than one? YES I think my description is appropriate!
Absolam wrote: » Just as pro-death and anti-life are equally appropriate descriptions for your own position. So how does your name-calling support women when it comes to giving them autonomy over their own bodies and giving them choice?
Delirium wrote: » Who are you addressing the question to? I'm not aware of anyone on this thread suggesting that only a female foetus should be allowed to be aborted.
La Fenetre wrote: » You are the one who expressed confusion with the idea that not aborting female children is also part of respecting women's rights.
Kev W wrote: » One more time, all together now: "A FETUS IS NOT A CHILD."
La Fenetre wrote: » It is an unborn child, a human life. Though a common tactic of human killing throughout history is to attempt to justify it, by ignoring and de humanising the lives of the victims. The medieval and barbaric practice of aborting children in the womb is no different.
eviltwin wrote: » A potential life. Having an abortion is not the same as going up to someone in the street and shooting them however much you try and blur the two.
La Fenetre wrote: » A human life is a human life, no matter how and when you choose to kill it.
eviltwin wrote: » In your opinion. The law does not agree.
eviltwin wrote: » Most logical people, even those who are anti abortion, would not share that view.
Delirium wrote: » Since nobody is suggesting only aborting female foetuses, I'm not sure how allowing for abortion is disrepecting women's rights.
La Fenetre wrote: » Abortion is illegal in many circumstances, in many jurisdictions, so what law are you talking about ? And since when does something become moral, because there isn't a law preventing it ? They don't ? Logically, do you speak for them all ? Logically, according to biology, when does a human life begin exactly ?
La Fenetre wrote: » I was responding to the false claim that abortion respects all women's rights. So if you abort a female (or a male), how are you respecting women's rights ?
Delirium wrote: » You are allowing a woman to decide if she will have an abortion or not.
La Fenetre wrote: » There are two lives involved not one.
Delirium wrote: » From what point, fertilization, implantation, forming of the brain?
La Fenetre wrote: » The point human life begins. Why should human life not be respected from then on ?
