Roquentin wrote: » correct me if im wrong, but i would imagine galway city population is growing faster than limericks.
biko wrote: » Tbh, Limerick feels much more like a city than Galway does - and I love Galway to bits.
Tigerbaby wrote: » cannot stand Galway and its "airs" I loved Limerick; real people, real goodness. thats it !
Silentcorner wrote: » The cost of housing is an indicator of nothing other than what local people are prepared to pay for housing...you will not see a single economist in the world who agrees with you...I can't believe we haven't copped onto that one. And the housing market is so dysfunctional in this country, I could just as effectively argue that housing prices are more of an indicator as how gullible people are. (we would both be wrong) Remember, an awful lot of Limerick residents also have 2nd properties and holiday homes in Co Clare/Co Kerry...the city empties out every July and August more than any other Irish city...
brice_nobes wrote: » saying that the cost of housing is no indicator of affluence flies in the face of logic when applied to almost any part of any city you can name beit blackrock in dublin , kensington in london , malibu in los angeles everyone might be wrong and you might be right but there is definatley a correlation between wealth levels and house prices
brice_nobes wrote: » while i agree that the media is kinder to galway , galway really does do incredibly well with what it has , this despite being located in the area of the country which has one of the smallest populations , if you go outside galway city , the next nearest population is athlone or ennis , limerick has all of tipperary , north kerry , etc , yet its still weak economically the city of culture thing last year was an opportunity to sell itself , they done nothing with it , i hear its governed awfully
Silentcorner wrote: » I respectfully disagree it was a massive success, by any metric you care to mention, you may not have heard about it, I imagine you depend on media to inform you of whether it was a success or not...it simply reinforces my original point...two cities treated completely differently in media.
Silentcorner wrote: » I understand the temptation to think that it is an indicator, and I am not on my own, economists agree with me, or more like I agree with them... It's like basing the affluence of a city on the amount of Michelin Star restaurants... If you combine the house prices in Limerick, with the value of the holiday homes that extend all the way up the West Coast of Clare and Kerry (and these things come in at a minimum of €30,000, can cost up to €250,000) then you'll find that Limerick people have a higher spend on property....we just get better bang for our buck... You cannot compare Irish house prices with anywhere else in the world, we suffered from the biggest property crash in the OECD...we still are no where near recovering from that...
brice_nobes wrote: » my partner is from limerick and both her and her family claim it was a damp squib last year bar the huge french granny , i actually like limerick but think it woefully underperforms on every level compared to galway i think limerick has more going for it than galway in many ways as its hinterland is huge by comparisson with galway , it really needs to get its act together
brice_nobes wrote: » your choosing arbitary factors to back up your points IMO , i dont know what percentage of limerick city folk own holiday homes and whether is way above the percentage of galway or other places , il stick with my assertion that house prices in an area is a pretty solid gauge of how affluent the place is , from darndale to dalkey , this gauge holds up pretty well im not getting into a broader debate about the housing boom and crash here , there are many views
dreamers75 wrote: » A city should have a millon people and an international airport. Both Limerick and Galway are large villages, nice ones tho.
outsidein98 wrote: » As a Dub with Limerick connections who lives on Galway. I have an interest. I do think Galway gets a lot of good PR in a way that Limerick never does. But really it's a big town rather than a city, sorry Galway people but it's true. Limerick is a proper city and it does suffer from city problems. Galway is really rather small from the perspective of a Dubliner. It's a great place to live, friendly, open and very little crime. Plus it has the advantage of being near to Connemara. But there's a bit of a small town mentality that persists. My wife couldn't wait to get out of the place when she was younger. Someone earlier mentioned it escaped the worst of the recession and that is my observation too. It is a prosperous town/city. Plus it has to be said that it's reputation as a place to go among Dubliners, who like it or not are a huge influence on a city's reputation, Cork people take note! You would be amazed how many Dublin flags appeared around the county, often in odd rural places, often with Galway flags alongside during the recent finals. I have sarcastically referred to it as the westernmost Dublin suburb and the to hear some of the accents. You might think D4. Limerick on the other hand has the drug problem. As a kid I was amazed to see, on visits to my cousins in Limerick, rough estates and poverty just like in Dublin. It's stab city rep is unfair but you can't ignore the issues. I do think in the end Galway will overtake or match Limerick population wise. It's a good place to live and that draws people. It might in the end spoil the place but time will tell. But finally I do prefer Dublin. You can take the man out of Dublin.........
dreamers75 wrote: » A city should have a millon people and an international airport. .
CKonetheonlyone wrote: » By any chance were those Dublin colours you spotted in Headford County Galway? Cuz as far as I know, their Club flag colours are the same as the Dublin flag. I remember driving through and thinking 'well, this is not so bad, we're not that hated after all'. And then my bubble was officially burst by a friend ..
road_high wrote: » Was in Limerick city centre for the first time in probably a decade last January and I was struck by the amount of development that had gone with very big buildings, offices and shops. Galway would be a more like a smaller town in that regard, but much nice ambience over all.
realdanbreen wrote: » Did you happen to stroll down by PatrickSt, Rutland st ? Every second building is boarded up. Having said that when I think of Galway all I can see are stone walls,poor land, coffin ships, dirty hurlers, rain, spanish students, aran jumpers, more rain, that lead 'singer' in the saw doctors, . In fact the only good thing I can think of is that they gave us Supermacs.
Hulk Hands wrote: transportation links have finally got a lot better
Silentcorner wrote: » But most events had excellent attendances, like all 350 events...over 750,000 people attended the events...that is massive...the production quality of the events was very impressive... I don't know how people are convinced the city underperforms on every level...it simply doesn't...most Limerick people, can afford to buy or rent property within a 10/15 drive of where they grew up...most people can obtain solid employment...and get there in a 15/20 minute drive...the jobs that were lost in Dell in 09 have been replaced... The city has one of the highest levels of disposable income in the country http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/disposable-income-finally-rises-but-only-in-dublin-30213663.html A lot of people buy season tickets for Munster Rugby whose state of the art stadium is a short drive or long walk from anywhere in the city... A lot of people attend the many art galleries that are always exhibiting...a lot of people attend one of the 3 theatres and the various events they hold... A lot of people get out into the likes of Dolans and gets to see what is an excellent grassroots music scene... A lot of people play sport in the number of the excellent sporting facilities the city has... A lot of people attend the University which has one of the best campusus in the country... 25,000 people go to 3 Level Institutions in the city... A lot of people, 10,000 to be exact, recently cleaned up the city making it cleaner than Dublin, Cork and Galway... It seems the whole city empties out every July and August and heads off to the coast... Now the city is far from perfect, and can always improve, and has some serious social issues in pockets of the suburbs, but we are are not washing our babies in the Shannon just yet!!! The perception of Limerick, and the reality of Limerick are two very different entities...
Baraics Pollox wrote: » I've retracted my earlier statement, too harsh! As a Dub, I always felt Galway more superior to Limerick. This is probably something simply due to the relative scales of the whole counties. I think Galway has more going for it too. Any time I've been to Limerick I've thought it feels bet down and a bit rougher. They're my reasons anyway.
ClovenHoof wrote: » Limerick should have more buzz to it. It falls flat in this regard. I think that it over estimates how much the rest of the country gives a toss about its 'great sporting tradition' - the fact is that there are more Irish people who couldn't care less about sport than the media and politicians would have you believe. Even the 'sports mad Irish' types only care when Ireland are winning, so they are not even sports fans as such. Limerick marketing people need to work this fact out.
