wellboytoo wrote: » Same way they did a few years ago when there was nothing there, and one could also add, who paid for the brand new sewage system that allowed all the development there, the massive upgrade in electrical power and gas supply that cost gazillions, not KK for sure.
fuzzy dunlop wrote: » Kilkenny also has two centres. The second one being Waterford City. As much as nobody in Kilkenny city probably likes to admit it Waterford has much more historical and familial links with South Kilkenny than Kilkenny has. As a guy from Lukeswell said to me before. Waterford is "our town". Nothing to do with GAA loyalty just plain old sanity being spoken! Waterford is as important to County Kilkenny as Kilkenny is. More so to South County Kilkenny.
wellboytoo wrote: » Interesting to read the KK forum and their slant on this,much more pro comments than on here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057455005
Irishlad2014 wrote: » Submission forms are currently available, at the Council offices in Bailey’s New Street, in the city and at the Civic Offices in Dungarvan. Have your say. Put an end to disastrous planning decisions made on that side of the river, Ferrybank Shopping Centre and Ross Abbey Shopping Centre - prime examples of KK Co Co Cash Cow attitude to Waterford when it comes to rates.
BBM77 wrote: » Any online option? Looked but could not find anything.
obezyana wrote: » Anyone see the Facebook page...Republic of South Kilkenny..... It's pretty funny and pathetic at the same time. Ya swore they were being invaded by an evil army who were going to burn them all to the ground.
robtri wrote: » ha ha and have u seen the comments around waterford?? u swear that KK was the devil incarnate, they way some people go on.... Waterford CC are only doing this to try to get the port... they are the greedy ones wanting the money from down there
Jamie2k9 wrote: » KK only want the area as it props up the rest of the county....
fricatus wrote: » Yes, and they've basically admitted it within their own objection, which is visible on their website - read section 4. It looks like they'll be down by just under €2 million annually, which is basically an admission that this is the amount they're creaming off that area to subsidise the rest of the county.
robtri wrote: » possibly.. and what Waterford aren't going to cream off the money ??? they are both after the area for the same reason... money... nothing to do with whats best...
fuzzy dunlop wrote: » Well you can't say what Waterford is going to do as they haven't done it. What's clear KK county council is not going to spend the money in the Ferrybank Area as its well known they have an utter disdain for the place because of its proximity to Waterford. You only have to look at some of the commments on the Kilkenny forum to see it.
robtri wrote: » besides the shopping centre what have they done wrong???
robtri wrote: » its not like Waterford CC have put any effort into there parts over there...
robtri wrote: » Both Waterford and KK do not have ferrybank or its people best interests at heart....
fricatus wrote: » Is that not enough of a monumental error for you? Aren't they paying for the demolition of the big silos (whenever that will happen is another matter) and didn't they pay for the cleanup of the Jury's site? They don't control much more of the area than that anyway. Didn't they even build council housing at Belmont? KK: creaming off €2 million a year from the area and allowing planning permission for a huge white-elephant shopping centre so they could cream off even more. Waterford: cleaning up Jury's; attempting to clean up and develop the North Quays. Which council would you say has the better record? If I'm wrong about anything here, or if I've missed out on any of KK council's good works, please provide examples. I'm happy to change my mind if I see evidence, but these are all the big-ticket items I'm aware of.
robtri wrote: » waterford port has been built up by KK so why shouldnt they collect rates... why should waterford cc get them when they have done nothing but just want to swoop in now it is built up and take the money..... really how is them north quays.. ohh yeah same has been for last 10 years.... a mess and a shambles, yeah well great job.... my point was not that KK where any better, it just waterford are no better than kk... they have made loads of mistakes as well .... but if u care not to see that, so be it....
robtri wrote: » no different than the utter disdain even posted here... besides the shopping centre what have they done wrong??? its not like Waterford CC have put any effort into there parts over there... this is just a money grabbing plan by Waterford CC to try to get the port and the revenues generated there.Both Waterford and KK do not have ferrybank or its people best interests at heart....
robtri wrote: » no different than the utter disdain even posted here... besides the shopping centre what have they done wrong??? its not like Waterford CC have put any effort into there parts over there... this is just a money grabbing plan by Waterford CC to try to get the port and the revenues generated there. Both Waterford and KK do not have ferrybank or its people best interests at heart....
fuzzy dunlop wrote: » This post sums up you attitude beautifully and in a slam dunk way illustrates how you absolutely have no clue. The North Quays are in private ownership and have been for years. While NAMA is a state agency it is still legally a private entity. So the idea the WCC can just send in bulldozers is a dim witted notion. But what is truly laughable is the fact that you think KKCC has "built up' the port. This was done by the port and through funding from central government and despite its location is still called Waterford Port legally. A fact KKCC find it extremely hard to admit hence the coniula reference to it as Belview. Waterford CC just as bad as Kilkenny CC:D If clutching at staws was an olympic sport we'd be parading you around Dublin on an open top bus;)
Max Powers wrote: » the other shopping centre past the school total lack of investment in water, I think Waterford were handling it for last few years until irish water took over entrance to Waterford from motorway has been a disgrace for years, recently cut the grass there but little to zero maintenance of road side.
