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Web Summit quits Dublin

Kermit.de.frog

wow, major blow to Dublin as a "tech capital".

no doubt this is mostly due to the embarrassing broad band wifi service provided last year by the RDS which really riled the organisers.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0923/729704-web-summit/

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strandroad

The Corinthian wrote: »

True, but apparently that's not the reason he gave for the move.

To be honest I don't believe him, much of what he says is demonstrably untrue. Perhaps they wanted to stay another year but I don't think so. They were in talks with at least three European cities so it was not just Lisbon.

CatFromHue

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Yes, he was having a dig. Whatever about the reasons, I don't know what he expected the government to do about Wi-Fi and hotel prices.

I'm still not sure what he wanted the govt to do about any of his requests, well other than pay for them all.

He should have been talking to the council and there was a meeting arranged with them for the end of May.

Leaking the emails with the govt looks like he can pin the blame on them but I do wonder if the council actually did come up with a plan but he'd have to fork out for the extra Gardai, like other organisations do when there's a big match on, and he wouldn't pay.

He was telling porkies on the radio the other day when he said that the 400K option for the Wifi in the RDS was the best option available but obviously if there's an upgrade of 1m then that's the best option available, he just wouldn't pay it!

Carlo Ancelotti

Stilk doesnt look good trying to host a web event with ****ty broadband at the location

jimmynokia

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/web-summit-opinion-2393188-Oct2015/

Surely Enda Kenny and his government have better things to do, like fixing the economy and solving the homeless crisis, rather than get dragged into a silly squabble with an entrepreneur whose ego seems to have lost the run of itself.

VinLieger

Carlo Ancelotti wrote: »

Stilk doesnt look good trying to host a web event with ****ty broadband at the location

Which was his choice, he was given wifi package options and went for the cheapest one

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

This little trumped up *-$# wanted everybody to jump to his tune, pay for all the facilities HE wanted, discommode everybody else in the city, bring political pressure on issues that the government should not be involved with...all so he can cream profits in excess of 600k. We may be green but we are not that stupid. Let's see how happy he is after a spell in Portugal.

ted1

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Yes, he was having a dig. Whatever about the reasons, I don't know what he expected the government to do about Wi-Fi and hotel prices.

But he is full of crap.
The reason is that attendees were getting bored of paying thousands for a ticket and seen the same city and sights every year , they simply needed a change of scenary.

With the price charged per ticket the organiser should have hired private busses and limos to transport visitors as regards Hotel prices , that's simply supply and demand, same as any if the cities hosting the World Cup and once again with the price of the tickets he can't complain about others charging high prices

Sheeps

VinLieger wrote: »

Which was his choice, he was given wifi package options and went for the cheapest one

That's incorrect. The cheapest option was BT which was free because they wanted to advertise at the summit, and was not allowed by the RDS because they wanted to sell him the infrastructure they had in place. They were left with no option other than the built in infrastructure which was not up to standard.

You have your facts wrong.

BattleReady

Not sure if this has been mentioned but I noticed sponsored ads from them on facebook asking people to read the emails between them and government. Seems pretty desperate. They were also getting lacerated on the comments section on an article on tech.eu. some guy just spamming responses in support of them. Looked pretty desperate also.

PARlance

Zeke Victorious Sparrow wrote: »

This little trumped up *-$# wanted everybody to jump to his tune, pay for all the facilities HE wanted, discommode everybody else in the city, bring political pressure on issues that the government should not be involved with...all so he can cream profits in excess of 600k. We may be green but we are not that stupid. Let's see how happy he is after a spell in Portugal.

I'm going to predict that by Yr 3 it will be a shadow of the event it is now.
Many of the attendees were here on jollies from bigger companies, they were over here for a fairly new and exciting event (that may lack substance), but they were also here for the craic and the p*ss ups... that won't be the same elsewhere, and when the novelty runs out it'll crash fairly quickly.

Isn't one of the principles of the Web that you don't need a Summit.

brooke 2

Carlo Ancelotti wrote: »

Stilk doesnt look good trying to host a web event with ****ty broadband at the location

Was up to him to pay for decent wifi. He was being a cheapskate and took the cheapest option, afaik.

VinLieger

Sheeps wrote: »

That's incorrect. The cheapest option was BT which was free because they wanted to advertise at the summit, and was not allowed by the RDS because they wanted to sell him the infrastructure they had in place. They were left with no option other than the built in infrastructure which was not up to standard.

You have your facts wrong.

Partially maybe but he still went for the cheapest package the RDS offered him though

brooke 2

BattleReady wrote: »

Not sure if this has been mentioned but I noticed sponsored ads from them on facebook asking people to read the emails between them and government. Seems pretty desperate. They were also getting lacerated on the comments section on an article on tech.eu. some guy just spamming responses in support of them. Looked pretty desperate also.

Felt so sorry for some of those start-ups who were really exploited.
Their original delight at 'winning' a 'free' place to the Summit, only to be subsequently told that they would have to pay €2000 to enter, followed by the pressure to have it paid within a few days or the price would go up!

Tarzana2

PARlance wrote: »

but they were also here for the craic and the p*ss ups... that won't be the same elsewhere

Yes, Ireland is the only country in the world where craic happens. :pac:

kidneyfan

Most recreational drugs are legal in Portugal, the weather is great, the surfing is nearly as good and Lisbon in amazing.

PARlance

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Yes, Ireland is the only country in the world where craic happens. :pac:

We just do it better than most.

strandroad

kidneyfan wrote: »

Most recreational drugs are legal in Portugal, the weather is great, the surfing is nearly as good and Lisbon in amazing.

Lisbon is fantastic but what does Paddy know about its genius loci apart from its favourable contract terms? As an outsider he'll certainly be able to run a large, successful, enjoyable... and much more generic tech event. Their Expo area has fantastic amenities, I happen to know it, but it's all built in the 90s and quite far out - up until recently it was the last stop of that underground line. It will take you longer to travel back to Baixa or Alfama that it would to even walk back to Dublin's centre.

They want to grow and they will grow but another event in Dublin would still make sense. We take Dublin for granted but the attendees enjoyed it although maybe not for so many years in a row, which is likely to be another reason for them moving.

Tarzana2

PARlance wrote: »

We just do it better than most.

Well, if what you want is loads of drinking then maybe. And even then, I wouldn't be convinced.

grundie

Sheeps wrote: »

That's incorrect. The cheapest option was BT which was free because they wanted to advertise at the summit, and was not allowed by the RDS because they wanted to sell him the infrastructure they had in place. They were left with no option other than the built in infrastructure which was not up to standard.

You have your facts wrong.

The RDS has fantastic WiFI infrastructure, with the ability to offer up to 10Ghz of bandwidth. When you book the venue you get a basic level of WiFi if you want more you have to pay.

The RDS won't allow 3rd party providers as it is a multi user venue, that is pretty standard for most big conference venues. Too many WiFi systems on site can cause headaches. Plus they don't want contractors damaging the building installing cables, routers and antennas.

markpb

grundie wrote:

The RDS has fantastic WiFI infrastructure, with the ability to offer up to 10Ghz of bandwidth. When you book the venue you get a basic level of WiFi if you want more you have to pay.

10Ghz of bandwidth? :-)

darkpagandeath

Were helicopters for people to the Galway races also asked for ?

grundie

markpb wrote: »

10Ghz of bandwidth? :-)

My bad. If it was 10Ghz they'd be cooking the guests.

10Gb/s.

Dyr

Sheepy, sheepy , sheepy

Speaking of facts, do you know who provided the WiFi infrastructure at the event?

Do you know what design decision was imposed on them by the websummit which was convienantly forgotten by paddy when he was lambasting all and sundry?

I mean you sound like you have the facts

garrixfan

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Well, if what you want is loads of drinking then maybe. And even then, I wouldn't be convinced.

Its ****, Irish people are boring as ****

smash

PARlance wrote: »

I'm going to predict that by Yr 3 it will be a shadow of the event it is now.
Many of the attendees were here on jollies from bigger companies, they were over here for a fairly new and exciting event (that may lack substance), but they were also here for the craic and the p*ss ups... that won't be the same elsewhere, and when the novelty runs out it'll crash fairly quickly.

Something that Paddy hasn't factored in, is that Dublin hosts EU headquarters for the majority of the largest tech multinationals. These companies always had no problem sending a few staff members, but next year will the do it again given the huge extra costs that will be associated with travel and accommodation?

Wompa1

The Web Summit doesn't seem to be a very technical conference. It doesn't seem like something one would go to learn. To me as an outsider who has never been to it, just looking at the list of the speakers and topics. It came across as a circle jerk.

Something like that will have limited appeal. Easily replaced by the next flavor of the month.

VinLieger

Bambi wrote: »

Sheepy, sheepy , sheepy

Speaking of facts, do you know who provided the WiFi infrastructure at the event?

Do you know what design decision was imposed on them by the websummit which was convienantly forgotten by paddy when he was lambasting all and sundry?

I mean you sound like you have the facts

Notice how they have now conveniently avoided replying when faced with the real facts

strandroad

Wompa1 wrote: »

The Web Summit doesn't seem to be a very technical conference. It doesn't seem like something one would go to learn. To me as an outsider who has never been to it, just looking at the list of the speakers and topics. It came across as a circle jerk.

Something like that will have limited appeal. Easily replaced by the next flavor of the month.

It's not about learning, it's about startups meeting investors and vice versa - networking. And inspiration to keep them going with all those motivational speakers on board. WS was initially able to pull in some strong names relative to its small size, hence its success as this facilitated some good networking. And it could have been that the perceived quirk and fun of Dublin was helpful in getting those names behind a smaller setup like WS because such events are not exactly unique. Scaling this up in a competitive market worldwide will be their next challenge.

TallGlass

garrixfan wrote: »

Its ****, Irish people are boring as ****

Could you get a bigger bucket of tar and a bigger brush there pal.

5rtytry56

Just remember to use the same brush for all us Irish once you've started garrixfan..