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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

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The Golden Miller

Ye kick Rodgers out and sign another mediocre manager, who buys more mediocre players and spends 200 million in the process

Grayditch

The Golden Miller wrote: »

I've absolutely no sympathy left for them anymore.

Ah, crap. We were really relying on that, some guy. This day just gets worse.

Charlie19

So our next six fixtures:
Bordeaux-Liverpool.
Liverpool-Norwich.
Liverpool-Carlisle.
Liverpool-Villa.
Liverpool-Sion.
Everton-Liverpool.

Nothing too frightening there, should be at least six points in the league, four points in Europe and through to the next round of the league cup.

I also want to see the 4-3-3 binned (even though it looks well balanced on paper) and a return to the diamond or even five at the back. Its clear as day that Benteke needs more support, whether thats Ings or Origi, I dont really care. I still think Gomez hasn't done too badly but he might need a little break because of his age.

This is what I be looking at.

Mig
Clyne--Skrtel--Sakho--Gomez/Moreno

Lucas
--Henderson--Milner

Coutinho
---Ings/Origi----Benteke

Mig
-Gomez/Loveren/Kolo--Skrtel--Sakho
Clyne

Moreno

Henderson--Milner

Coutinho
---Ings/Origi

Benteke

Utopia Parkway

rarnes1 wrote: »

Not a chance Klopp is coming to Liverpool. Time to wake up. It's more likely Pardew or Monk, thats the reality

I don't believe that for a second. By all accounts he's interested. Big club, soon to be 50,000+ stadium. Fanatical support and the owners are willing to spend some money. I actually think there's plenty of talent in that squad when everyone is fit and available.

I don't think he'll be approached though. The owners seemed wedded to Rodgers as he is to Dejan Lovren unfortunately.

mosstin

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Ye kick Rodgers out and sign another mediocre manager, who buys more mediocre players and spends 200 million in the process

I much preferred you when you were The Golden Shower.

Jon Stark

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Liverpool are an absolute joke. What team could possible spend hundreds upon hundred upon hundreds of million over the last 10 years or so, and continually have absolutely nothing to show for it every season except mediocre rubbish that they continually fork out 20-30 million for? Liverpool have absolutely no excuse for their continued failure. Like when they spend 30 million on a rubbish player or hire another mediocre manager, do they ever stop and think "would this guy get in the United, Barca, Bayern starting 11? When United were doing rubbish they went out and bought quality players and showed ambition. What do Liverpool do? Spend 20/30/40/50 million of some average English player who had one good season at Blackpool or So'ton, that in the grand scheme of things isn't going to win you league's and the dogs on the street could tell you that. I don't support Liverpool but I do like to see them do well, but I've absolutely no sympathy left for them anymore. They deserve all the failure that comes their way due to the continued incompetence from top to bottom for the last 20 years

Yeah United went out and spent a ****e load of money....and just about managed CL qualification. Mainly because of a keeper.

Liam McPoyle

Jon Stark wrote: »

Yeah United went out and spent a ****e load of money....and just about managed CL qualification. Mainly because of a keeper.

Aye, a successful season based on the performances of one player, unheard of!

brevity

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Liverpool are an absolute joke. What team could possible spend hundreds upon hundred upon hundreds of million over the last 10 years or so, and continually have absolutely nothing to show for it every season except mediocre rubbish that they continually fork out 20-30 million for? Liverpool have absolutely no excuse for their continued failure. Like when they spend 30 million on a rubbish player or hire another mediocre manager, do they ever stop and think "would this guy get in the United, Barca, Bayern starting 11? When United were doing rubbish they went out and bought quality players and showed ambition. What do Liverpool do? Spend 20/30/40/50 million of some average English player who had one good season at Blackpool or So'ton, that in the grand scheme of things isn't going to win you league's and the dogs on the street could tell you that. I don't support Liverpool but I do like to see them do well, but I've absolutely no sympathy left for them anymore. They deserve all the failure that comes their way due to the continued incompetence from top to bottom for the last 20 years

While there are some things here that I don't agree with, I think the general point you make is spot on.

Jon Stark

Business Cat wrote: »

Aye, a successful season based on the performances of one player, unheard of!

Not sure who you're referring to, I assume Luis Suarez? He only cost £20m, and we nearly won the league.

I couldn't really give a sh1t anyway, United got the job done last season assuming CL qualification was the sole target, and that's all that matters. But I'm not having someone coming into this thread and lecturing about poor spending when there's a question mark over his own team's spending (I'm assuming Golden Miller is a United fan).

gosplan

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Liverpool are an absolute joke. What team could possible spend hundreds upon hundred upon hundreds of million over the last 10 years or so, and continually have absolutely nothing to show for it every season except mediocre rubbish that they continually fork out 20-30 million for? Liverpool have absolutely no excuse for their continued failure. Like when they spend 30 million on a rubbish player or hire another mediocre manager, do they ever stop and think "would this guy get in the United, Barca, Bayern starting 11? When United were doing rubbish they went out and bought quality players and showed ambition. What do Liverpool do? Spend 20/30/40/50 million of some average English player who had one good season at Blackpool or So'ton, that in the grand scheme of things isn't going to win you league's and the dogs on the street could tell you that. I don't support Liverpool but I do like to see them do well, but I've absolutely no sympathy left for them anymore. They deserve all the failure that comes their way due to the continued incompetence from top to bottom for the last 20 years

Spurs!

Either go for continuity and a long term project or just keep firing the manager every year till you get lucky.

Spurs went option B and even when it worked and they got CL, it couldn't last.

kfallon

I'll be glad to see the back of Rodgers tbh, had enough of the bullshít and poor performances over the last 10-12 games! The defending yesterday for all 3 goals was completely shambolic.

We're nothing but mid table mediocrity!

SlickRic

I feel strangely calm today.

The writing is on the wall. He won't last past this season. He is found out. This season may turn into a write off, especially with our inevitable inability to juggle domestic affairs with the Europe League.

The fans are also pretty much united now. The vast majority know the story.

It's a matter of when, rather than if.

LuckyLloyd

gosplan wrote: »

Spurs!

Either go for continuity and a long term project or just keep firing the manager every year till you get lucky.

Spurs went option B and even when it worked and they got CL, it couldn't last.

Rodgers has had three full seasons and spent a quarter of a billion on players.

Tipsy McSwagger

It only took 5 games into the season for the people who were willing to give Rodgers a chance after last seasons disaster to see when an absolute fraud he is. The guy is not only a fraud but a man who blamed last season on his coaches and had no problem in throwing them under the bus which led to their dismissals, he is a fraud and a scumbag. The turning point of this disastrous run was the United game at Anfield last season. I posted a few weeks later that he had lost the dressing room after this shambolic performance and I was ridiculed, it's crystal clear that this was the case, the players don't know what to do and look like they don't give a shyte (FA Cup semi versus Villa was a massive eye opener). LFC fans have stopped drinking the Kool Aid and have come to the realization that Rodgers hasn't a fcuking clue what he is doing. The solution is simple, sack him and pay him off because the damage he is doing will stop us from getting into the lucrative Champuons League for years. The biggest worry isn't Rodgers though, it's the owners. If they are not willing to sack such a clueless manager who is destroying the team, we are well and truly fcuked.

happyoutscan

^ No need for me to post, Tipsy sums it up perfectly. F*** Rodgers.

kfallon

The use of the word 'scumbag' is a bit strong there to be fair!

Jon Stark

I was on the fence even though like Tipsy said I also felt he had lost the dressing room last season.

I always said this is THE season for Rodgers for better or worse. So far he is failing miserably.

The last ace he can play is Sturridge at this stage, and we all know that's not a card to be putting the house on.

RayCon

kfallon wrote: »

The use of the word 'scumbag' is a bit strong there to be fair!

Agreed totally .... I can't stand Rodgers but to call him that is fairly pathetic.

Jon Stark

kfallon wrote: »

The use of the word 'scumbag' is a bit strong there to be fair!

Scumbag is strong but I've always found him to be an unpleasant character in his treatment of certain players. The only player that has left with anything good to say about him is Suarez and I'd say that's because Brendan would have been doing a fair bit of licking.

Now that I think about it, has Stevie G said much about him?

Not to go all Dunphy on him either but he also left his wife to shack up with a young one. :pac:

D'Agger

Jon Stark wrote: »

Scumbag is strong but I've always found him to be an unpleasant character in his treatment of certain players. The only player that has left with anything good to say about him is Suarez and I'd say that's because Brendan would have been doing a fair bit of licking.

Now that I think about it, has Stevie G said much about him?

Not to go all Dunphy on him either but he also left his wife to shack up with a young one. :pac:

Gerrard stated if he'd met Rodgers earlier in his career he might have won a lot more which is a serious endorsement in fairness

mav79

Rodgers being sacked would not be knee-jerk, he's had over three years now and the team looks disjointed and disinterested, some people are going on like the club are firing managers every year. At this point as much as I'd like to see Klopp, Ancelotti or Garcia manage the club I'd be fine with the likes of Monk managing. Sticking with Rodgers is not going to miraculously improve the team, a basic 4-4-2 formation with the players playing in their best positions would be good to see at the moment.

Jon Stark

Eh, no thanks to Monk. We don't need to go the Young potential route again. We need a winner.

8-10

Firmino - how do people feel about him? I'm still far far far from convinced

D'Agger

shamrock55 wrote: »

Dont cod yourself into thinking we will beat norwich, they just beat bournmouth 3-1, whereas we technically lost 1-0 at home to them

It's always a bad sign when you're calling wins, 'technical losses'

Actually, it's not a sign of anything...it's just really stupid

jaykay74

D'Agger wrote: »

Gerrard stated if he'd met Rodgers earlier in his career he might have won a lot more which is a serious endorsement in fairness

The counter argument to a personal endorsement would be to look at the stats. After 7 or so years as a manager his only honour is the championship playoff trophy 2010/11

mav79

Jon Stark wrote: »

Eh, no thanks to Monk. We don't need to go the Young potential route again. We need a winner.

Would you be happy to stick with Rodgers if a manager like Klopp or Ancelotti is not available, or would not join.

SM01

8-10 wrote: »

Firmino - how do people feel about him? I'm still far far far from convinced

He would appear to have the pedigree but hasn't shown it yet. That may because he's adapting to the league, he's not being managed correctly and/or he's short of fitness and sharpness. I was hoping for an early, positive impact from him but he's been on the periphery thus far. Regardless it's too soon to judge.

SlickRic

8-10 wrote: »

Firmino - how do people feel about him? I'm still far far far from convinced

Not convinced, but he's being asked to play on the wing in a team that is broken in terms of how we use the ball in a foreign league.

He could thrive in a functioning team.

Grayditch

Jon Stark wrote: »

Not to go all Dunphy on him either but he also left his wife to shack up with a young one. :pac:

There are so many faults with Rodgers' game to argue right now that bringing something like this up is just pointless and nobody's business, really.

Jon Stark

8-10 wrote: »

Firmino - how do people feel about him? I'm still far far far from convinced

Not everyone can settle instantly like Clyne and Gomez (though the latter has regressed in the last 3 games) so I find it hard to judge Firmino.

BUT, from what I've seen, my gut isn't telling me anything good. He's comparable to Coutinho: shows Flashes, has a shot on him but can fade out of games. Some will say happy days if he's another Coutinho but for the money spent I would have hoped for a player a little different.

Ever since we lost Suarez we've been crying for an attacker with an explosive and combative nature. That's what I would have liked to have seen for the money spent but unfortunately I don't see those qualities in Firmino.

I'd be fearful that he's another luxury buy that we didn't necessarily need.