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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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Sacrolyte

simx wrote: »

some incalf heifers bought in last few days and milk supply agreement sorted, wont be long and ill be adding to the dairy crisis

On the contrary me boy. Your just sharing the pain.

Buford T. Justice XIX

simx wrote: »

some incalf heifers bought in last few days and milk supply agreement sorted, wont be long and ill be adding to the dairy crisis

Congratulations.

Time for a username change so.

My money is on Jex;)

simx

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Congratulations.

Time for a username change so.

My money is on Jex;)

Brfr maybe ha

Sacrolyte

simx wrote: »

Brfr maybe ha

Good idea. Hedge your bets.

Buford T. Justice XIX

simx wrote: »

Brfr maybe ha

Just found the ideal name...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleckvieh

Incidentally, there is a group of lads from AI stations heading out later this year looking at potential bull mothers for importing semen and test bulls.

freedominacup

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Just found the ideal name...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleckvieh

Incidentally, there is a group of lads from AI stations heading out later this year looking at potential bull mothers for importing semen and test bulls.

It's about time bell bottom trousers made a comeback too. Talk about nothing new under the sun.

visatorro

simx wrote:

Brfr maybe ha

will you fatten any more stock or is it all out milking your going?

Feckthis

simx wrote: »

some incalf heifers bought in last few days and milk supply agreement sorted, wont be long and ill be adding to the dairy crisis

What sort of numbers will you start milking?

kowtow

Feckthis wrote:

What sort of numbers will you start milking?

You can't ask that now 'cos of manners.

You have to ask him how long the shadows are beside the parlour before and after milking and work back.

Dawggone

kowtow wrote: »

You can't ask that now 'cos of manners.

You have to ask him how long the shadows are beside the parlour before and after milking and work back.

Lol.

simx

visatorro wrote: »

will you fatten any more stock or is it all out milking your going?

All milking for a couple years anyway, might see in 2017 if cattle trade is bad

keep going

kowtow wrote: »

You can't ask that now 'cos of manners.

You have to ask him how long the shadows are beside the parlour before and after milking and work back.

reminds me of the rule here about the playstation----if you can see your shadow you cant go on the playstation

Buford T. Justice XIX

freedominacup wrote: »

It's about time bell bottom trousers made a comeback too. Talk about nothing new under the sun.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I'll leave the trousers to yourself, though.

kowtow

keep going wrote: »

reminds me of the rule here about the playstation----if you can see your shadow you cant go on the playstation

Wait until they're teenagers and become allergic to daylight !

Greengrass1

keep going wrote: »

reminds me of the rule here about the playstation----if you can see your shadow you cant go on the playstation

Bloody asked twice this week how many were milking. Told em I'm not sure hard to keep track because I milk that many

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Bloody asked twice this week how many were milking. Told em I'm not sure hard to keep track because I milk that many

fill them with crap, double what you have , who's business is it anyway, or you could ask them what their take home pay is

td5man

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Bloody asked twice this week how many were milking. Told em I'm not sure hard to keep track because I milk that many

Neighbour asked us how many we were milking, he didn't know how many he had but under further interogation eventually got it out of him.
The same lad knew exactly how many we had as he counts them on a regular basis, he was also able to tell us when they were due to start calving.

visatorro

when asked how many I'm milking I always reply ' sure I'm milking them all'

kowtow

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Bloody asked twice this week how many were milking.

"As many as I can find when I go to get them"

darragh_haven

I'm only milking one...... the system.

Sacrolyte

"Too many, Are you milking many yourself?"

frazzledhome

visatorro wrote: »

when asked how many I'm milking I always reply ' sure I'm milking them all'

Lol

Greengrass1

whelan2 wrote: »

fill them with crap, double what you have , who's business is it anyway, or you could ask them what their take home pay is

One lad is only a sort of relief lad and he knows who every body is. Lads that have been working in the coop yrs don't know how he knows them all and he lives an hr away. Knew my name the minute I walked up to the counter the first day he was in the place and I hadn't said a word to him.

Brown Podzol

I have two cows. I sell three of them to my publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by my brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that I get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to my listed company. The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.

kowtow

Brown Podzol wrote: »

I have two cows. I sell three of them to my publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by my brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that I get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to my listed company. The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.

You'd grow that much faster if you sold a collateralised debt obligation backed by the milk components of the eight cows. Senior Tranche - Protein, Junior - Fat, and Subordinate = the rest of it.

Then I could arbitrage it against a "milk crack" of GDT powder, Chicago grade III liquid for next June & a cellar full of slightly ripe Cheddar.

Dawggone

kowtow wrote: »

You'd grow that much faster if you sold a collateralised debt obligation backed by the milk components of the eight cows. Senior Tranche - Protein, Junior - Fat, and Subordinate = the rest of it.

Then I could arbitrage it against a "milk crack" of GDT powder, Chicago grade III liquid for next June & a cellar full of slightly ripe Cheddar.

Maybe Irish Water would be interested in the subordinate tranche...

Brown Podzol

kowtow wrote: »

You'd grow that much faster if you sold a collateralised debt obligation backed by the milk components of the eight cows. Senior Tranche - Protein, Junior - Fat, and Subordinate = the rest of it.

Then I could arbitrage it against a "milk crack" of GDT powder, Chicago grade III liquid for next June & a cellar full of slightly ripe Cheddar.

Now we're sucking diesel. Can you see anyway of using synthetic cdo's, credit default swaps and maybe buying a couple of million lts of futures,three card tricks etc. and I could be a dairy farmer without the cows.

mf240

Brown Podzol wrote: »

I have two cows. I sell three of them to my publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by my brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that I get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to my listed company. The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.

Didnt know you were farming in greece.!!

kowtow

Yes

Short liquid milk, long soy + crude, call option on 30 yr money as a proxy for land + inflation hedge.

Would need to fiddle with the proportions but basically that's synthetic dairy

* get someone to break your fingers every so often for the full fruity flavour.

kowtow

Dawggone wrote:

Maybe Irish Water would be interested in the subordinate tranche...

"Safeguarding our future with your milk"