lertsnim wrote: » You think this only happens in Ireland? You are wrong if you do.
weadick wrote: » I think its worse in Ireland than anywhere else, particularly the US or South American concerts. Ive met several American people who saw the Slane DVD and thought Irish fans must be amazing. Then they went to Croke Park and couldnt believe how boring it was, basically 80,000 people standing with their arms folded for 2 hours. The only people who make any bit of atmosphere are the throngs of foreigners who follow them around Europe. Plus Croke Park is a terrible venue especially with that bloody residence association preventing them from playing too loud or too long. They would still easily sell out three nights in Croke Pk if they wanted, hopefully they won't. We always seem to get a raw deal in Ireland. They couldn't do the full 360 show in Ireland cos of something to do with the way Croker was designed. Now they can't bring the proper I+E show because the 3 arena is too small!
weadick wrote: » I think its worse in Ireland than anywhere else, particularly the US or South American concerts. Ive met several American people who saw the Slane DVD and thought Irish fans must be amazing. Then they went to Croke Park and couldnt believe how boring it was, basically 80,000 people standing with their arms folded for 2 hours. The only people who make any bit of atmosphere are the throngs of foreigners who follow them around Europe.
Shedite27 wrote: » Easily sell out 3 nights? Tickets for 360 were still on sale on Ticketmaster on the day.
nm wrote: » Crazy talk. Irish and Scottish crowds are great, second only the South American (Argentina in particular).
The Nal wrote: » Spanish crowds are nuts. As are Italians. Saw U2 in Rome on the Vertigo tour and it was batsh1t crazy.
Shedite27 wrote: » Just out of interest, what is a batsh1t crazy crowd? Sit attentively listening to songs? Sing along to songs? Dance a lot? Dress in fancy dress?
RolandGoose wrote: » U2 have sold out every date on their world tour except the last gig in London. They are playing multiple night in the biggest arenas. As much as it has become cool to not like U2, their popularity is in no danger IMO. They would sell out a run of concerts in Dublin in a matter of seconds!
The setlist on this tour would be recognisably to almost everyone in attendance I would have thought, It is mostly the greatest hits mixed with nearly all of the new album. There is usually one or two rare-ish choices.
We just have sh1tty venues here for big gigs. Croker, Aviva, Slane, 02. All sh1t. Like really sh1t.
Also the organisers and security usually seem to think there are 40,000 members of ISIS attending judging how they treat people. And our ticket prices are fcuking extortionate.
RolandGoose wrote: » U2 have sold out every date on their world tour except the last gig in London. They are playing multiple night in the biggest arenas. As much as it has become cool to not like U2, their popularity is in no danger IMO. They would sell out a run of concerts in Dublin in a matter of seconds!The setlist on this tour would be recognisably to almost everyone in attendance I would have thought, It is mostly the greatest hits mixed with nearly all of the new album. There is usually one or two rare-ish choices. As stated earlier in 1992 /1993 U2 were a different animal, Achtung Baby was the new album which is their very best imo, perfect from start to finish, with the exception of "tryin' to throw you're arms around the world", and this was off the back of The Joshua Tree! They were on an all time high musically and creatively! Having said all that, I think the current setlist looks great! No doubt things will be shaken up for Europe, which will add a few surprises!
MisterAnarchy wrote: » They were pretty much at their peak then coming off the back of Achtung Baby arguably their best album. Zoo TV was a ground breaking tour for its time ,visually and thematically it was amazing. The band were less mainstream back then and didnt play it as safe as The Nal mentions. The setlists on the current tour are not great to be honest,too many radio friendly tunes.
adrian522 wrote: » I seem to remember U2 getting a fair amount of criticism at the time for what was deemed as them abandoning their back catalog and playing too much "new" stuff. A lot off auchtung baby, zooropa. Now seen as their best stuff, but wasn't universally liked at the time among their fanbase at least not initially.
flasher0030 wrote: » That's not true. When Achtung baby was released, it was immediately heralded as a masterpiece. Read this for all the accolades that it received. Number 1s, awards etc.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtung_Babyheralded For live shows, they had the perfect mix of songs:- brilliant songs from Achtung Baby/Zooropa, but enough room from the classics from previous albums. The issue that I was saying is that the new albums don't have that excitement to them, but they still have to play 7/8 songs of it. But then they play the usual, what I would call kinda boring songs now, like Elevation, Vertigo, Beautiful Day, City of Blinding Light. If what you are trying to say is that in 20 years time when U2 are still playing live (after they trot down to Welfare office to draw the pension), that people will look back and say that they have abandoned songs from No Line on the Horizon, or Songs of Innocence, then I don't that will be the case.
How many people on here saw ZooTV and was it as amazing as it looks on the Sydney video? This tour looks about as close as they have come to matching ZooTV for innovation at least.
RolandGoose wrote: » U2 have sold out every date on their world tour except the last gig in London. They are playing multiple night in the biggest arenas. As much as it has become cool to not like U2, their popularity is in no danger IMO. They would sell out a run of concerts in Dublin in a matter of seconds! The setlist on this tour would be recognisably to almost everyone in attendance I would have thought, It is mostly the greatest hits mixed with nearly all of the new album. There is usually one or two rare-ish choices. As stated earlier in 1992 /1993 U2 were a different animal, Achtung Baby was the new album which is their very best imo, perfect from start to finish, with the exception of "tryin' to throw you're arms around the world", and this was off the back of The Joshua Tree! They were on an all time high musically and creatively! Having said all that, I think the current setlist looks great! No doubt things will be shaken up for Europe, which will add a few surprises!
Vunderground wrote: It was cool to like U2? Missed that ...must have gone to the bathroom!
Vunderground wrote: » It was cool to like U2? Missed that ...must have gone to the bathroom!
MisterAnarchy wrote: » Thats true ,alot of people didnt like the change of direction the band made with Achtung Baby and more so Zooropa. They used to open the Zoo tv concerts with 6 straight songs off Achtung Baby. I've seen every tour since 1990 live ,most multiple times ,and Zoo tv was amazing ,absolutely groundbreaking for its time. Hair on the back of the neck stuff. All the tours have been good though ,from the stripped down indoor Elevation tour to Vertigo,Popmart and 360 tour. The impact of the newer tours is not as great though as there are so many spoiler videos on the internet,in some cases people are filming whole gigs in HD ,its a bit crazy. I was really looking forward to seeing the band indoors again this tour,as its a much better experience , but it looks increasingly likely that we will be shafted re the Dublin gigs. Its been a right mess from the band . If they had just been honest from the start and said that they wouldn't be playing the point then people could plan foreign trips like I have done in the past.
weadick wrote: » Vertigo to me seemed like a bit of a rehash of Elevation but with a bigger stage design, it was the first tour in a while where they didn't really attempt anything new. I'd actually love to have seen a proper 360 show, I only saw the Croke Park one. I've heard that, although it looked gimmickey, the 'claw' was great in the right arena, that it was the mediocre new songs that really let the show down? I'll never understand why when No Line was supposedly a concept album they decided to promote and tour the hell out of it. I might have worked as a Zooropa/Passengers style record but there was no way those songs should ever have been pushed as much as they were. Listening to Pop again lately...most of the songs stand up really well. Hard to believe its nearly 20 years old!
weadick wrote: » Listening to Pop again lately...most of the songs stand up really well. Hard to believe its nearly 20 years old!
The Nal wrote: » As am I. Such a great album. Bold, brave, experimental and they were rushed to finish it (like Zooropa) which meant they didn't have time to suck the life out of it like they did with every album from that point onwards. Shame they don't throw caution to the wind like that anymore. Adams contribution on Pop is massive and crucial. Also a big shame they chickened out of releasing Songs of Ascent in favour of the Apple circle jerk/Kings of Leon/Keane/Killers pastiche album. Without being too harsh, it appears they're totally preoccupied with critics, fans, stadium shows and business. The music is secondary. A bands music should be uncompromising. Otherwise they may as well just work for Apple or Blackberry and make music on the side. Which is sort of what they do now anyway. I have absolutely no interest in seeing them live these days.
weadick wrote: » I'd actually love to have seen a proper 360 show, I only saw the Croke Park one. I've heard that, although it looked gimmickey, the 'claw' was great in the right arena, that it was the mediocre new songs that really let the show down?
