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MTV's ''White People'' Documentary

qwerty1991

I'm not sure how people have seen it but it is available to stream here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zjj1PmJcRM on Youtube.

I have to say in the last couple of months I am disgusted with MTV's race baiting, which is all anti white. It is things like this that are stirring up tensions and keeping race issues alive. I believe racism is a big problem in the USA, but it should not be dealt with by trying to paint all white people as baddies who are born with ''white privilege'' that they should forever be guilty about and all other races as victims.

Although I had heard bad things about this documentary before watching it and to be honest the basic premise did not sit well with me. Imagine a documentary on Black people or Asian People done in the same way this documentary was done? (And it was done in such a way that basic facts were skewed or left out just to fit the agenda). On the other hand, I felt that it could possibly be a very good, honest documentary on race relations.

To be honest I was unable to finish it as it was making me angry. To give one example why:

A white student got very good grades and accepted into her dream university. She was unable to attend due to finances and being unable to obtain a scholarship but noticed there were many more scholarships available to non white students. And so her and mother very politely said it felt like discrimination that after working very hard, she was being denied opportunities due to her race when basically it should just be done to grades and hard work.

Then we are given figures and statistics to show why it is fair to exclude white people from scholarships.

We are told 96% of scholarships are available to white people These are available to EVERYONE regardless of skin colour, however we are just told they are available to white people in the documentary. They then ignore the fact that therefore 4% of all scholarships are basically racist, excluding people on the basis of their skin colour because according this documentary, excluding white people is ok

We are then told how 62% of students are white but they get 69% of scholarships available. This is used as a justification that white people are not at a disadvantage but are actually disproportionately getting more scholarships It completely ignores the fact that scholarships are given on merit. It never even mentions the fact that these scholarships are given on the basis of academics or athletic skill but makes it appear that white people are greedily and unfairly taking more scholarships from students of other races. It ignores the fact that they worked hard to get them, obviously harder than the students who were unsuccessful.

I dont know has anyone else seen this but I believe it is a very unhealthy dialogue about race in what could have been an excellent documentary. it is very biased, but an interesting watch. I may finish it later when I am less annoyed

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Tombi!

I wish this f**king race baiting/my feelings shíte would f**k off back to America and stay there.

nullzero

I thought it was all white

Guv

MagicMarker

MTV Documentary?

Well there's your problem...

The_Valeyard

I remember when MTV played music with a half hour break in the evening for Beavis & Butthead.

qwerty1991

Tombi! wrote: »

I wish this f**king race baiting/my feelings shíte would f**k off back to America and stay there.

Same! In the last 5 years it has crept into UK and Irish media so much! If everyone shut up about it no one would care.

(Yes, i realize there is me, not shutting up about it !)

suicide_circus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L104LViQeIw

Duckworth_Luas

What the USA needs is a real American hero like Hulk Hogan and the power of Hulkamania to destroy these racists

emo72

did jerry springer buy MTV at some stage?

Smiles35

What does 'Race Baiting' mean exactly?

Tombi!

Noblong wrote: »

What does 'Race Baiting' mean exactly?

Baiting using race as a topic.
In other words trying to start arguments using race as a topic.
All blacks are criminals. All Asians are bad drivers. All whites are racist. And so on.

Another form of it is using your race as a way to kinda overrule people. You see it in America (of course :pac:) with black folks doing the "you're only doing this because I'm black" thing when cops stop them or arrest them.

Sheep Lover

White is right!

Except when black is

RichardCeann

I remember when MTV used to show music.

The Backwards Man

Bring back Ray Cokes!

galljga1

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

What the USA needs is a real American hero like Hulk Hogan and the power of Hulkamania to destroy these racists

Yes, brother.

Smiles35

Tombi! wrote: »

Baiting using race as a topic.
In other words trying to start arguments using race as a topic.
All blacks are criminals. All Asians are bad drivers. All whites are racist. And so on.

Another form of it is using your race as a way to kinda overrule people. You see it in America (of course :pac:) with black folks doing the "you're only doing this because I'm black" thing when cops stop them or arrest them.

Baiting who? Americas a land of immigrants, and mouths. Sounds like I'm supposed to take those drawn to what's said serious.

ScumLord

qwerty1991 wrote: »

I believe racism is a big problem in the USA, but it should not be dealt with by trying to paint all white people as baddies who are born with ''white privilege'' that they should forever be guilty about and all other races as victims.

I don't know that it is to be honest. According to the media the UK is overrun with Muslims in hijabs screaming allahu ackbar on their way to the shops. In reality while there are plenty of different ethnicities all over London their all culturally similar to each other no matter what religion or race they are.

When I was in the states I saw absolutely no sign of racism and everyone seemed to get along, I talked to black people, who were friends with white people and never got the impression there was an undercurrent of contempt from anyone.

The media are a bunch of **** stirring, scare mongering, gossip merchants. They paint a highly embellished version of events that just doesn't match up to reality. probably find

RDM_83 again

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't know that it is to be honest. According to the media the UK is overrun with Muslims in hijabs screaming allahu ackbar on their way to the shops. In reality while there are plenty of different ethnicities all over London their all culturally similar to each other no matter what religion or race they are.

Come to East London and try and spot an Eastern European chatting to a Bangladeshi or Pakastani in an non work setting and get back to me on that :cool:

Pocoyo

europeans and the asians are without a doubt historically the superior races,I dont believe its a race issue today but a cultural one. The asians have an incredibly rich history of empire/civilization and invention,But today they shun that amazing history in favour of a nutty book,I believe the white bashing by the media is a trend,Liberalism has been hijacked by this line of self hating thought just like feminism has been hijacked by sexist nutjobs. Its seems a social hero today involves cutting your penis off,murdering your baby or being black and oppressed. Hero's arnt brainwashed soldiers or sexual freaks but carers,Nurses volunteers they are people that do what they do out of compassion not because they watched youtube videos.

Son Of A Vidic

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I remember when MTV played music with a half hour break in the evening for Beavis & Butthead.

I pity the posters who are too young to remember when MTV was a music channel. Then again, maybe they're better off since they don't know what they're missing.

Harry Palmr

MTV are just making up for their racist music policy when they started.

nullzero

Harry Palmr wrote: »

MTV are just making up for their racist music policy when they started.

They played Michael Jackson, but he made up for violating their racist policies by becoming white.

Capt'n Midnight

MTV racist music policy ? Nah it was just playlists of records they were pimping.

Fairground Attraction Perfect - played every hour , on the hour.

MT USA was way better

jimgoose

I'm offended. An' when Big Whitey get the Offended, he gwyne break sh1t.

MarkAnthony

Haven't watched it but from the extracts you've given you seem to be overlooking the fact that due to a plethora of issues a black person may be unable to achieve the same academic standard as a white person or may have inferior financial means or potential financial means.

Is it fair that X white person is 'punished' of the sins of they're great great grandfather? Perhaps not, fair that that the great great grandson/daughter of the victim has an advantage - perhaps not.

Frankly though one would assume it's a more nuanced issue than perhaps MTV can deal with. That said at least the dumbing down has found a home rather than it contaminating every possible form of media and channel on the TV.

Letree

ScumLord wrote: »

The media are a bunch of **** stirring, scare mongering, gossip merchants. They paint a highly embellished version of events that just doesn't match up to reality. probably find

You are right there. They are all about the clickbait. Racism, Sexism and a host of other isms get them clicks = money = continuation.

If less people clicked into these pieces then the journalists would write less of them.

DarkyHughes

qwerty1991 wrote: »

I'm not sure how people have seen it but it is available to stream here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zjj1PmJcRM on Youtube.

I have to say in the last couple of months I am disgusted with MTV's race baiting, which is all anti white. It is things like this that are stirring up tensions and keeping race issues alive.

I agree MTV's crap show doesn't help, but I think white cops shooting unarmed black people is keeping the race issue alive a lot more.

galljga1

DarkyHughes wrote: »

I agree MTV's crap show doesn't help, but I think white cops shooting unarmed black people is keeping the race issue alive a lot more.

You would say that Darky.

Billy86

galljga1 wrote: »

Yes, brother.

No, n****r.

Only just stumbled upon news about him directly before clicking into this thread, too!

Nodin

nullzero wrote: »

They played Michael Jackson, but he made up for violating their racist policies by becoming white.

I though everyone white and black had voted and agreed to re-classify him as "freak" after 1982, just to keep the peace.

paleoperson

MTV used to be extremely racist to the point where they couldn't even play a music video of a black person like Michael Jackson. Now it seems they've become just as racist but in the other direction.

"Oh look, a black and a white person arguing, clearly the white person is racist. Only people who have studied the issue would notice the racism."

Just ignore them.