I have a Wii U - General Discussion.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Also the pixelated look is a total fallacy. Old games never looked pixelated, that's just a result of people playing emulators or digital releases on LCD screens with no scan lines. The scan lines create an antialiasing effect meaning games, even if low res look smooth and not blocky. Games never looked blocky like indie games seem to think they do.

Nah, I can see pixels perfectly well on consoles like the NES and the Gameboy. I'd have to look again at newer platforms. Fallacy or no, people generally like the look. Makes for a nice change to 4XMSAA on everything; its deliberate, there's artistic choice put into it, rather than simply being a limitation of the hardware. There's a beautiful 'shorthand' to it.

I'm aware that enthusiasts can be quite... demanding with what they game retro on, I've seen several eh... in depth threads on the likes of Neogaf but I'm fine with nice big blocky retro on an IPS. I'm sure there's ghosting or something that would be a dealbreaker for some when it comes to IPS, but it looks fine to me. If you can't see the pixels in retro games chances are you can't spot panel weaknesses either.

Retr0gamer

CRT tech is far better than LCD technology. LCDs, even modern ones have very poor colour and blacks compared to CRT. They only won out because they are cheaper, smaller and less power hungry. Everything will look better on a CRT especially retro games (wish I had gotten my hands on one of those rare HD CRT screens when they were around.

Also the pixelated look is a total fallacy. Old games never looked pixelated, that's just a result of people playing emulators or digital releases on LCD screens with no scan lines. The scan lines create an antialiasing effect meaning games, even if low res look smooth and not blocky. Games never looked blocky like indie games seem to think they do.

As for emulation, emulation is not very accurate (with exceptions like BSNES that emulate to near transistor level but they require a crazy powerful PC to run). Unless it's something like the ports that M2 who are specialists then emulation is just 'good enough' that most people won't notice and far from accurate. Also you can't emulate the scanline look of a CRT, BSNES can be run in super high resolution with shaders that an emulate scan lines quite well but most emulators use something like super eagle smoothing that does fake antialiasing but also destroys detail in the sprites and ultimately looks a bit crap.

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

A CRT based display does a lot of work smoothing the image,

Is this what retrogamers aspire to? News to me. I kinda want to retain the pixelated look, I like it.

(When its intentional and not cause Nintendo is just being cheap. F@♡* 3DS' ppi)

A CRT based display does a lot of work smoothing the image, along with the scanlines, features an LCD display just can't match.

Just buy the original console,, an RGB cable and a cheap Sony Trinitron, off you go to happy land.

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Stop stop

You are just making it worse for yourself.

When you are stuck in a hole, stop digging!

There is no substitute for playing the game on original hardware.
And as for playing ROMs on a PC and thinking a modern display makes it all better, and you talk about "better resolution"?
They are supposed to be played at the resolution they are developed for.
By running them through a emulator you just blow the pixels up and see them instead on a LCD monitor, nasty...

This is not really true for 3D games.

Also, pixels are generally perfectly visible on most of the hardware you listed. I don't mind pixels blown up on a large HDTV; quite a nice look. As long as the individual pixels are sharp, and theres no reason they wouldnt be.

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I did own one
But I then went and bought every game I liked on it, so I don't feel too bad.
Perhaps it's the whole paying for games on the Nintendo he has a problem with, given he's been playing them for free for so long.

I only got an R4 card last week.

I've bought plenty of Wii, DS, Gamecube and Gameboy games over the years.

cloud493

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I did own one
But I then went and bought every game I liked on it, so I don't feel too bad.
Perhaps it's the whole paying for games on the Nintendo he has a problem with, given he's been playing them for free for so long.

Aye thats true. If you ain't gonna pay for the games, then don't whinge about it. Free games are free, and given that Nintendo games are 99 times out of a hundred such high quality, and tailored to both 'kiddie' and 'adult' audiences, I'm not sure what there is to complain about.

cloud493 wrote: »

Emulators never have I heard such nonsense. You either play it on the original format or VC, or not at all. As for cheats, they can sod off as well.

Glad I never owned an R4 card now :pac:

I did own one

But I then went and bought every game I liked on it, so I don't feel too bad.
Perhaps it's the whole paying for games on the Nintendo he has a problem with, given he's been playing them for free for so long.

cloud493

Emulators

never have I heard such nonsense. You either play it on the original format or VC, or not at all. As for cheats, they can sod off as well.

Glad I never owned an R4 card now :pac:

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Stop stop

You are just making it worse for yourself.

When you are stuck in a hole, stop digging!

There is no substitute for playing the game on original hardware.
And as for playing ROMs on a PC and thinking a modern display makes it all better, and you talk about "better resolution"?
They are supposed to be played at the resolution they are developed for.
By running them through a emulator you just blow the pixels up and see them instead on a LCD monitor, nasty...

No, they have filters and everything to make the games look way better and I can play them with my PS4 controller, much better, also my DS games are played on a DS, no difference bar the cheats and add ons...

I'm playing the games so I'll play them how I want!

SMC92Ian wrote: »

I prefer Emulators, save states, cheats, improved graphics and better resolution... I'm currently playing Pokemon on my DS with a tone of cheats on, it makes the game soooooooo much better.

Stop stop

You are just making it worse for yourself.

When you are stuck in a hole, stop digging!

There is no substitute for playing the game on original hardware.
And as for playing ROMs on a PC and thinking a modern display makes it all better, and you talk about "better resolution"?
They are supposed to be played at the resolution they are developed for.
By running them through a emulator you just blow the pixels up and see them instead on a LCD monitor, nasty...

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

You can probably leave quietly now and we'll say no more about it.
Emulators...
Deary deary me...
Lightweight....

I prefer Emulators, save states, cheats, improved graphics and better resolution... I'm currently playing Pokemon on my DS with a tone of cheats on, it makes the game soooooooo much better.

Ace Attorney wrote: »

So how do people feel about devils third after all the mayhem? Im not really put off by the bad reviews. I think im still going to buy it. Im not expecting a great game. But i still want to give it a go.

Regardless of if the frame rate and control issues are just click bait bullsh1t, it's still the kind of game I couldn't be bothered with.
I've plenty of hyperviolent third person games across my collection, another one is just going to get thrown on the pile, better to spend the money on something worthwhile.

Allyall

I read somewhere that Xseed were going to publish it (but that may be only in America).
They might give it a limited print run, which would probably see me buying it at normal price.
But I don't know if that's true, or applies to here.

Ace Attorney

Allyall wrote: »

I'm still planning on buying it. I'll probably wait though, until it's a decent price. Is there a limited print run? Or whatever it's called when they don't release it everywhere.

My Wii U is out of action for a short while now too, charger just stopped working. Very annoyed.

Im not really sure if its a limited run, but there doesn't seem to be many places doing preorders in ireland for it, only gamestop. Amazon are doing it too, but that sterling to euro tho.....
That sucks about your charger man. Hopefully you wont have to wait too long to get one.

Allyall

Ace Attorney wrote: »

So how do people feel about devils third after all the mayhem? Im not really put off by the bad reviews. I think im still going to buy it. Im not expecting a great game. But i still want to give it a go.

I'm still planning on buying it. I'll probably wait though, until it's a decent price. Is there a limited print run? Or whatever it's called when they don't release it everywhere.

My Wii U is out of action for a short while now too, charger just stopped working. Very annoyed.

Ace Attorney

So how do people feel about devils third after all the mayhem? Im not really put off by the bad reviews. I think im still going to buy it. Im not expecting a great game. But i still want to give it a go.

I really wish Ninty would come out with a Wii U slim; the gamepad at least needs some serious slimming down, and it could be sleeker.

We're never getting multi-gamepad support are we...

SMC92Ian wrote: »

I can play all those other consoles on Emulators tho :P

You can probably leave quietly now and we'll say no more about it.
Emulators...
Deary deary me...
Lightweight....

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I've got the following
NES
Famicom (av modded)
SNES (region switch modded)
N64 ( NTSC with RGB mod and a vanilla PAL one too)
GameCube
Wii (Region free mod) x2
WiiU
Virtual Boy
Gameboy
Gameboy Pocket
Gameboy Light
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advanced
GBA:SP x2
GBA:SP (AGS 101)
Gameboy Micro
DS
DS Lite x2
DSi
DSi:XL
3DS
3DS:XL
2DS
New 3DS
Pokémon Mini
Game & Watch (about five collected so far)

And plenty of games for all the above

So, you've a fair way to go yet in your Nintendo collecting I would say!

But I'm not a Nintendo collector, I can play all those other consoles on Emulators tho :P

readyletsgo wrote: »

Haha true, but I know if I don't try my hardest on my first play through, I'll never go back to YWW to complete it. Too many games to get through.

It's a top game, super easy to get through, but mega hard to get everything in first run through of each level.

Also, my Dr Mario Amiibo Yoshi skin is adorable looking, also like the moo cow skin

Yeah, I'm replaying some of the levels, have his wings on this time tho, that noise he makes is adorable haha I do like some of the amiibo skins, shame tho you need the figures, a bit much €15-20 each figure just for a skin.

readyletsgo

SMC92Ian wrote: »

I competed it a few weeks ago, does be hard when your trying to get all the sun and wool secrets, I'll be happy once I unlock every Yoshi

Haha true, but I know if I don't try my hardest on my first play through, I'll never go back to YWW to complete it. Too many games to get through.

It's a top game, super easy to get through, but mega hard to get everything in first run through of each level.

Also, my Dr Mario Amiibo Yoshi skin is adorable looking, also like the moo cow skin

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Convert me, to what like, I have 2 Wii's, 2 DS's and a Wii U... not like I can buy anymore Nintendo consoles

I've got the following
NES
Famicom (av modded)
SNES (region switch modded)
N64 ( NTSC with RGB mod and a vanilla PAL one too)
GameCube
Wii (Region free mod) x2
WiiU
Virtual Boy
Gameboy
Gameboy Pocket
Gameboy Light
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advanced
GBA:SP x2
GBA:SP (AGS 101)
Gameboy Micro
DS
DS Lite x2
DSi
DSi:XL
3DS
3DS:XL
2DS
New 3DS
Pokémon Mini
Game & Watch (about five collected so far)

And plenty of games for all the above

So, you've a fair way to go yet in your Nintendo collecting I would say!

/\/ollog wrote: »

You're all still hardly trying to convert this guy are ye?

Convert me, to what like, I have 2 Wii's, 2 DS's and a Wii U... not like I can buy anymore Nintendo consoles :P

sligeach wrote: »

Can we please substitute Super Maro Galaxy or 2 instead?

Surprised these haven't been HD'd up and resold on the Wii U store.

Machismo Fan wrote: »

All those Yoshi skins are super adorable. Rocking Candy Floss Yoshi myself at the moment.

Yeah they are awesome, I wonder if they'll release more amiibo's with these colour schemes... I'd love a Cow.

sligeach

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

So, when did you play Super Mario 3D World?
And what did you find so terrible about it?
And, if so, are you aware you were probably the only one?

Can we please substitute Super Maro Galaxy or 2 instead?

Nollog

You're all still hardly trying to convert this guy are ye?

Machismo Fan

All those Yoshi skins are super adorable. Rocking Candy Floss Yoshi myself at the moment.

Josey Wales wrote: »

I have it but it is still in the shrink wrap. I actually just started The Wind Waker HD tonight. I've never played the game and I hear its alright.

I got WW free with my Wii U but sold the code, bought LBP and Wolfenstein.

readyletsgo wrote: »

I got it, started it today at 1pm, on world two now and it's f**k!ng frustratingly balls hard in parts. Have you got it SMC92Ian?

I competed it a few weeks ago, does be hard when your trying to get all the sun and wool secrets, I'll be happy once I unlock every Yoshi

readyletsgo

SMC92Ian wrote: »

.......Who here got Yoshi's Woolly World?

I got it, started it today at 1pm, on world two now and it's f**k!ng frustratingly balls hard in parts. Have you got it SMC92Ian?

Josey Wales

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Who here got Yoshi's Woolly World?

I have it but it is still in the shrink wrap. I actually just started The Wind Waker HD tonight. I've never played the game and I hear its alright.