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Was there any good music in the 2000's?

OneOfThem

(Lets just skip lithely over what that decade is going to be known as and move along in an orderly fashion - you all know the one I mean - 2000-2009 inclusive).

I was struck by an unusual and sudden desire to hear music from those years tonight. I think I remember liking some, but that might have been a dream, drew a blank, I don't do so good at remembering when things happened. So I figures "oh hey, youtube is a thing that exists, they might know what music was now, when it was then", so I put 'best music of the 2000's' into it. And started clicking links of playlists or whatever, dealies, lists... ye know?

This was the 'best' I found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_p0eC_ijFA

I let it count back from 100 to 40 before I had to turn it off and curl up in a ball and hug myself and cry.

What was the good music of that decade again? There was some songs and stuff wasn't there, that were good? I was almost sure there was... could have been a dream...

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Rough Sleeper

Anesthetize wrote: »

I'll just leave this here:
https://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=2000s&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=

Some stone-cold classics there. And yet you'll still have people referencing X-Factor as if it's somehow representative of post-2000 music or nullifies the great stuff that was made . You just can't discuss music with people who think the stuff played on FM104 is where modern music begins and ends.

tigerboon

Cold War Kid wrote: »

I'm actually putting together a 21st century playlist on Spotify to take me out of living in the past when it comes to music, and there's some outstanding stuff. E.g. Let England Shake is PJ Harvey's best album IMO.

Great album

DEFTLEFTHAND

There's no real one movement that defined the 2000s. Referring to mainstream acts I think the decade started off promising with the nu metal scene and rock stuff like the Libertines, Strokes, Hives, Vines.

Around 04 05 was a bit dodgy, you had the Artcic Monkeys burst onto the scene in 06 but you had a lot of average sh1t like Kaiser Chiefs and the Killers around too. The decade petered out with autotune garbage filling the commercial airwaves.

Wompa1

tigerboon wrote: »

Funny you should say that. My wife used to play it over and over and over. She should be nursing home age then. Karma might strike. She was the same with your man from Wales..can't think of his name
David Gray

That White Ladder album and Play by Moby were feckin massive

DarkyHughes

There was some stuff put out by Allen Pullen & Mark Kavanagh on Kavanagh's Baby Doll Records. Paul King also produced some good stuff around the early part of the decade.

DarkyHughes

wrmwit wrote: »

The first song that came into my head when I read the heading was Mark McCabe Maniac. What a track!! I started college in 2000 and the club played it every night. The shapes I threw when that song was on!

That was actually released around the late 90's. Several "MC's" just "rapped" over the Soundcrowd record released in 1995 on Red Records & people liked Mark's the most.

Eutow

Wompa1 wrote: »

That White Ladder album and Play by Moby were feckin massive

Both late 90's albums.

Aidric

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Otherwise though, Amy Winehouse I think put an indelible mark on the 2000's / noughties and I think Back to Black is pretty much the song I will always associate with that decade.

Good call. Winehouse was a true original with a back catalog that will stand the test of time. It's true that the 00's might not be remembered as the most fertile but autotune has a lot to answer for on that front.

As a final point anyone referencing Coldplay, leave it out. I hope those melancholic charlatans are confined to elevator music for ever more.

Cheese Wagstaff

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

Slash released "slither"in 2004 a cool song a good indication of where GnR would of gone if Axl hadn't disappeared up his own arse.

*cough*...Velvet Revolver *cough*

[Deleted User]

Burial "Untrue" was pretty great when it came out in 07 or 08.

Anesthetize

Deleted User wrote: »

Burial "Untrue" was pretty great when it came out in 07 or 08.

Untrue is one of my favourite albums of the last ten years. No album captures the vibe of a rainy, depressing city centre better.

Rough Sleeper

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There's no real one movement that defined the 2000s. Referring to mainstream acts I think the decade started off promising with the nu metal scene and rock stuff like the Libertines, Strokes, Hives, Vines.

Around 04 05 was a bit dodgy, you had the Artcic Monkeys burst onto the scene in 06 but you had a lot of average sh1t like Kaiser Chiefs and the Killers around too. The decade petered out with autotune garbage filling the commercial airwaves.

Well, for me the 2000s was split between being in school, and working in an office filled with very sound but musically unsophisticated chicks who had the radio on all the time, so my knowledge of pop music from that era is good. This is how I remember it:

The start of the decade was dominated by nu-metal, garage-influenced pop (Craig David and his ilk), pop starlets, and turn-of-the-century trance. The 90s boyband and girlband behemoths were were still a visible force but the gimmick as a whole was waning. Eminem was big and original enough (at the time) that he probably deserves his own category.

Early-to-early-mid 2000s is a little less defined in my mind. I'm not not sure if this is because I was really getting into alt-rock then, your Muses and Placebos etc., or because pop music was just less distinctive. But from memory there was loads of that tedious quasi-gangster rap (50 Cent, Nelly and the likes) and rock-styled boybands like Busted and Mcfly. Artists who earned (or "earned?") their fame from TV talent shows were definitely a thing by then.

Mid-2000s, from what I recall, was saturated with contemporary R'n'B and indie/post-punk revival. The former, in the vast majority of cases, was trash - Neyo, Chris Brown and suchlike - but could be decent on very rare occasions (Future Sex Love Sounds by Justin Timberlake is a bit of a classic). The latter included some of my favourite acts from the period, coming-of-age stuff like The Libertines and Arctic Monkeys, but also encompassed bands like The Kooks, whose existence contributed towards the development of the ignominious label of "landfill indie." Pop-punk and emo were bubbling under the surface, occasionally popping up to claim a number one spot. Snow Patrol and Timbaland were always there or thereabouts.

Again, the late 2000s is a little less clear in my head. X-Factor winners all over the place anyway, and autotune everywhere. 40% of radio airplay consisted of Lady Gaga. The influence of electronic music was becoming apparent, whether it was dance-influenced stuff by the Black Eyed Peas, or straight-up hairdresser house like David Guetta. An auger of things to come in the next decade.

...funny to think that The Libertines are firmly within nostalgia territory now. So much coming back to me typing up those few words, and mainstream music was a very minor part of my growing up. People here look down on the 2000s like it was a decade of no cultural relevance, but it will be remembered fondly like any other. Been meaning for ages to start a thread about how the 2000s will be remembered. Must get the finger out and make it.

PS: I'm what AH might term a "music snob" and the Kaiser Chiefs are a guilty pleasure of mine.

**EDIT: in case it wasn't clear, I'm referring exclusively to mainstream music here.

[Deleted User]

There was plenty of great music in the 2000's

There was a great DJ called Uaneen FitzSimons who used to play amazing Indie tracks on the radio in my first few years away at school.

I used to listen to her at every opportunity. Her music taste was innovative and original, and it was 2fm prime time radio!

Unfortunately she died in a road crash a few years ago. This is one of the many great artists she introduced me to during the era of Britney and Christina Aguilera. It's not to everyone's taste, but it's sublime, in my view

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlRanftUqO4

[Deleted User]

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There was a great DJ called Uaneen FitzSimons who used to play amazing Indie tracks on the radio in my first few years away at school.

I used to listen to her at every opportunity. Her music taste was innovative and original, and it was 2fm prime time radio!

Unfortunately she died in a road crash a few years ago.

She died in 2000 afair.

She used to present No Disco on RTE.

anncoates

Good music has been made in every decade.

There's accepted signpost decades that are accepted as periods of fecundity like the 60s and 80s but there's probably a case to be made that 'originality' in music has been gradually tapering away from the 60s onwards.

The notion that music has to be 'original' is probably only of interest to the margins and a quaint adjunct from the fact that music just means most to each generation as they experience it first-hand and form memories and experiences around it.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

She died in 2000 afair.

She used to present No Disco on RTE.

Ah right, all I knew is it was during my pre-junior cert. years.

What a loss to RTE radio she was anyway. I think she had a music video show on TV as well (back when there was a terrestrial market for music videos)

She had bloody fantastic taste in music though.

Rough Sleeper

Deleted User wrote: »

Burial "Untrue" was pretty great when it came out in 07 or 08.

Anesthetize wrote: »

Untrue is one of my favourite albums of the last ten years. No album captures the vibe of a rainy, depressing city centre better.

It's always Burial that springs immediately to mind when I read threads like this. You see people say that, for some inexplicable reason, the ability to make good music was erased from the gene pool in 1999. I think of Burial and say to myself "You're wrong, you God damn fossil." Music's meant to make you feel, and Burial's music makes me feel this weird, heady mix of awe and hope tinged with a bit of nostalgia and sadness.* Though I hold the opinion, controversial among my mates, that Kindred's his best record. I'm coming around to the belief that it's one of the greatest works of modern music. Or works of music, period.

*There was a good article written on this some time ago, discussing how people can't help but descend into verbal wankery when talking about Burial.

Chain Smoker

If you care enough to complain, you should care enough to actually try and find stuff, it's easier than ever now. Giving up to rant after watching that video in the first post reeks of just seeking to prove your point instead of accepting that you're out of touch.

Nothing wrong with being out of touch with modern music either, the music you hear in your formative years has such a huge amount of how you became you associated with it that it's naturally gonna assume a special place. Being unable to accept it is a bit sad though.

Also, as far as half assed searches go, the automatically generated list google gave me when I searched "best songs 00s" wasn't bad at all considering, had about 50 and here are the ones I assume literally everyone knows (Bon Iver seemed to be my obscurity cut off point) that I think are fantastic:

Hey Ya
Umbrella
Lose Yourself
Crazy
Ignition (Remix)
Do You Realise? (it got a TON of play!)
Miss Jackson
Seven Nation Army
One More Time
Can't Get You Out of My Head
Feelgood Inc
Drop It Like It's Hot (Neptunes!)
Yeah
Mr Brightside
Pokerface
Cry Me a River (Could probably pick about 10 Timbaland songs from the 00s I'd put ahead of this too)

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

*There was a good article written on this some time ago, discussing how people can't help but descend into verbal wankery when talking about Burial.

Man, it's so true! I'd say all my friends have received a 600 character text from me in the middle of the night ****eing on about Burial at some time or another!

Kindred is gradually being accepted as the best one, no? It's definitely my favourite

Rough Sleeper

Chain Smoker wrote: »

If you care enough to complain, you should care enough to actually try and find stuff, it's easier than ever now. Giving up to rant after watching that video in the first post reeks of just seeking to prove your point instead of accepting that you're out of touch.

Nothing wrong with being out of touch with modern music either, the music you hear in your formative years has such a huge amount of how you became you associated with it that it's naturally gonna assume a special place. Being unable to accept it is a bit sad though.

Also, as far as half assed searches go, the automatically generated list google gave me when I searched "best songs 00s" wasn't bad at all considering, had about 50 and here are the ones I assume literally everyone knows (Bon Iver seemed to be my obscurity cut off point) that I think are fantastic:
Hey Ya

Umbrella

Lose Yourself

Crazy

Ignition (Remix)

Do You Realise? (it got a TON of play!)

Miss Jackson

Seven Nation Army

One More Time

Can't Get You Out of My Head

Feelgood Inc

Drop It Like It's Hot (Neptunes!)

Yeah

Mr Brightside

Pokerface

Cry Me a River (Could probably pick about 10 Timbaland songs from the 00s I'd put ahead of this too)

If "My Love" by Justin Timberlake isn't there I don't want to know about it.

RollieFingers

The Marshall Mathers LP, The Eminem Show, Stankonia, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, The College Dropout, Late Registration, Back to Black..........Grand old decade for the tunes!

K4t

Arcade Fire will be seen as the most important band to emerge from the 00s in the coming years and throughout the century, similar to Radiohead in the 90s.

Herb Powell

Jaylene Plain Tech wrote: »

Eh...Arcade Fire, The White Stripes, Queens of the Stone Age, Amy Winehouse, The Libertines, The Arctic Monkeys, Gorillaz, LCD Soundsystem, Bright Eyes, Outkast, Flaming Lips, Modest Mouse?

Even the stuff more at the billboard end of the scale, you had your Kylies, your Lady Gagas, your Justin Timberlakes, your Destiny's Childs, your Eminems (might sound crazy to you youngsters but he used to be good!). Fairly solid pop choonage right there. There was a lot of sh1te too, but sure you'll have that whatever the decade

Yeah yeah yeah yeahyeah yeahyeah yeah, yeah yeah yeahyeahyeah!!

IamNotNumber wrote: »

Who?

Oh fucck off.

Some of the best music known to humanity is being produced right now, only people won't take their heads out from their arses for 2 minutes to realise it.

Nostalgia is the most horrific thing, and it kills everything. I'm really excited by the prospect of the likes of the Rolling Stones etc dying off so that we can see what's really going on.

SeaDaily

anncoates wrote: »

but there's probably a case to be made that 'originality' in music has been gradually tapering away from the 60s onwards.

Well that's just total nonsense.

NachoBusiness

Kylie and her hotpants song deserve a mention, surely.

Don't all fap at once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1DWBKk5xHQ

nullzero

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Hey Ya

Umbrella

Lose Yourself

Crazy

Ignition (Remix)

Do You Realise? (it got a TON of play!)

Miss Jackson

Seven Nation Army

One More Time

Can't Get You Out of My Head

Feelgood Inc

Drop It Like It's Hot (Neptunes!)

Yeah

Mr Brightside

Pokerface

Cry Me a River (Could probably pick about 10 Timbaland songs from the 00s I'd put ahead of this too)

That is for the most part a list of incredibly bland and boring songs. Yeah I might like older music but I can find stuff I like from any Era up until the start of this century. Of course there is still music being made that I enjoy but the amount of such music being released has decreased and the quality control in music generally seems to be forgotten about.
Music, at least as it has been expected to be since the mid 50's (ie a cultural touchstone) is no longer as relevant as it has been for what seems like forever at least in terms of modern history. I think we're leaving the Era of the music stars behind, and perhaps given the lack of original creative content being released these days it may not be a bad thing because currently a lot of musical content being released seems to be Content for contents sake as opposed to having any artistic or cultural meaning.

flas

Anything by the strokes, the libertines, kings of leon(red morning light,mollies chamber, four kicks etc) jamie t, modest mouse, foals, arcade fire, flaming lips, artic monkeys, franz ferdinand(unreal live band), gorilaz! Quality

Quazzie

Matchbox20 had two excellent albums out in the 2000s. They seem to get a slagging lately by some of the "hipster" crowd but I still listen to their albums very regularly. I liked a lot of "pop" songs from the decade but I much preferred some of the American bands which emerged around that time. It's pretty unpopular to say it now, but I really likes, and still like, Nu-Metal/

Rough Sleeper

anncoates wrote: »

There's accepted signpost decades that are accepted as periods of fecundity like the 60s and 80s but there's probably a case to be made that 'originality' in music has been gradually tapering away from the 60s onwards.

If you're talking about commercial music I'd tentatively agree you.

If you get outside that...based on a single overarching genre of music (or, more accurately, a modality of music production) from the UK alone: acid house, hardcore, jungle, drum and bass, big beat, garage, 2-step, grime, dubstep. I won't even get into the fusion genres that came after.

All distinctive genres; like anything else, you can find their roots in scenes that came before, but if you go back ten years from their emergence you won't find anything that sounds like them.

Cork boy 55

That remake of Barbie girl by that brazil model forgot her name

[Deleted User]

Laurent Garnier - Unreasonable Behaviour

Actually so far I've really only mentioned albums. If one gets down to tracks, I could easily spend hours coming up with classic house, deep house, tech house, IDM etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-t1tifeImw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtNkhZMuzTI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ej6g3KhinM