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Would you work somewhere without sick pay?

FrStone

We were discussing this in work recently. A colleagues husband turned down a job with a company as he found out they didn't pay sick leave.

We have sick pay in my place and to be honest while I've only ever used it for two days, I wouldn't be happy to work somewhere without it. The thought of your pay being docked if you were out for a day with a cold. It probably encourages people to come in too, who should be at home and pass their sickness around the place.

Obviously it's one less worry if I was to ever develop a serious illness and be out for a few months that I would still be paid.

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Dravokivich

Sick Pay? Well for some.

Menas

I did once- but was getting a very decent daily rate at the time. I rarely take a sickday to be honest. When you dont get paid for a sickday it motivates you to get in to the office no matter how bad you are. But then everyone does that and bugs spread round the office.

But now, I need all the sick pay I can get!

duffman13

We have sick pay but it doesn't influence if I go to work or not. Haven't had a sick day and would only ever not go to work if I was in ribbons. I wouldn't mind working somewhere that in order for sickness to be paid it needed to be certified. Too many people in my place use their sick days like additional annual leave.

Slippin Jimmy

FrStone wrote: »

The thought of your pay being docked if you were out for a day with a cold.

This is why some places won't pay for sick days. People would just abuse the system completely.

It would be a factor to consider when choosing a job.

Little CuChulainn

FrStone wrote: »

It probably encourages people to come in too, who should be at home and pass their sickness around the place.

This is the main reason for sick pay as far as I'm concerned, especially in somewhere like a hospital or Garda station. One person not staying home with something like a flu can cause a lot of damage.

[Deleted User]

As those of us who are self employed scratch our heads at the idea of getting paid while not working...

FrStone

Slippin Jimmy wrote: »

This is why some places won't pay for sick days. People would just abuse the system completely.

It would be a factor to consider when choosing a job.

I'm not gonna come in and give everyone else a cold too. There is nothing more inconsiderate than people trying to be a martyr and coming into work and passing their germs around.

Sam Kade

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

This is the main reason for sick pay as far as I'm concerned, especially in somewhere like a hospital or Garda station. One person not staying home with something like a flu can cause a lot of damage.

If they had the flu they wouldn't be able to get out of bed

A head cold shouldn't stop you from working.

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As those of us who are self employed scratch our heads at the idea of getting paid while not working...

And the rest of us scratch our heads at all your dubious tax breaks

NachoBusiness

Bet all the young folk with their cool lingo read the thread title and assumed you meant 'serious amount of wedge' when you said 'sick' pay.

[Deleted User]

kneemos wrote: »

And the rest of us scratch our heads at all your dubious tax breaks

Please tell me more. What are the dubious tax breaks I should avail of?

Sam Kade

Deleted User wrote: »

Please tell me more. What are the dubious tax breaks I should avail of?

It's his imagination, he believes everyone else is better off than him. Or else he believes tax planning is against the law silly man.

uck51js9zml2yt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Please tell me more. What are the dubious tax breaks I should avail of?

They must be envious of the non payment of social welfare if you're ever not working.

The Backwards Man

Never even worked anywhere with the glorious fancy notions of holiday pay, overtime, maternity pay, or bank holidays in lieu either, and never employed anyone that had them notions. Pay a good wage for a good day's work instead, everybody is much happier.

nokia69

its been close to 10 years since I had a sick day, so I don't need sick pay

some people I work with can't go more than 2 weeks without calling in sick

jimmycrackcorm

Deleted User wrote:

Please tell me more. What are the dubious tax breaks I should avail of?

I suppose your mobile phone bill is not an expense then.

TwoShedsJackson

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Never even worked anywhere with the glorious fancy notions of holiday pay, overtime, maternity pay, or bank holidays in lieu either, and never employed anyone that had them notions. Pay a good wage for a good day's work instead, everybody is much happier.

Employees are entitled to 3 out of the 4 of those by law. Whether or not they take them is between them and their employer.

The Backwards Man

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Employees are entitled to 3 out of the 4 of those by law. Whether or not they take them is between them and their employer.

Never ever employ anyone who is familiar with the word 'entitled'

Banjo String

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I suppose your mobile phone bill is not an expense then.

I have the one phone which I use for work almost exclusively. I spend 70% of my working week on site with customers, so it's a necessity. Usually about 60-80 per month.

Lavish I tells ya.

DaveWalsh2020

Sorry but there s no tax breaks...

Sorry but there s no grants

Sorry no sick pay Sorry no holiday pay

Sorry no holidays.

Just lots and lots off hard work and if the reward is there. You ve earned it.

TwoShedsJackson

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Never ever employ anyone who is familiar with the word 'entitled'

I had a feeling you were going to come back with something like that.

The Backwards Man

My phone bill is 19 odd per month.

*sent from my S6 in The Bahamas*

rob316

I've been in jobs where the sick pay system was totally abused. Take a week off get a doctors note and you doesn't loose a penny basically lads topping up there holiday days.

I myself will always go to work no matter how bad I am, I would go home however if I couldn't work.

Working since I was 15, I think I took one sick day ever and I was in hospital the day before.

wyndham

Banjo String wrote: »

I have the one phone which I use for work almost exclusively. I spend 70% of my working week on site with customers, so it's a necessity. Usually about 60-80 per month.

Lavish I tells ya.

You should switch to 3 SIM only. €20 + VAT per month for unlimited everything. Minimum of 2 phones though.

DeanAustin

FrStone wrote: »

We were discussing this in work recently. A colleagues husband turned down a job with a company as he found out they didn't pay sick leave.

We have sick pay in my place and to be honest while I've only ever used it for two days, I wouldn't be happy to work somewhere without it. The thought of your pay being docked if you were out for a day with a cold. It probably encourages people to come in too, who should be at home and pass their sickness around the place.

Obviously it's one less worry if I was to ever develop a serious illness and be out for a few months that I would still be paid.

Anyone who doesn't come to work because of a cold should be shot with balls of their own sh1t.

Jawgap

Worked in the public sector until last year and had sick pay (used it once in 12 years).

I couldn't honestly tell if my current employer pays if I become sick - which is a way of saying it wasn't a factor when deciding to come work for them.

I do, however, pay income continuance insurance just in case something really nasty happens

TwoShedsJackson

DeanAustin wrote: »

Anyone who doesn't come to work because of a cold should be shot with balls of their own sh1t.

What about someone who does come in and spreads it around the place?

Jawgap

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

What about someone who does come in and spreads it around the place?

.....or the people who think what they have is a cold starting but it turns out to be flu, which they then spread around the place

DeanAustin

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

What about someone who does come in and spreads it around the place?

This gets overstated.

Anyway a head cold never killed anyone.

DeanAustin

Jawgap wrote: »

.....or the people who think what they have is a cold starting but it turns out to be flu, which they then spread around the place

So many things are called "the flu" that are no such thing.

Christ, we are a nation of fannies.