ballbag05 wrote: » Will Leahy Colm Barry & Ciaran Ó Brien have been called into Cork Senior squad for Wexford game. On strengh of their Monday nights performances Better late than never.
CORKDOUBLE wrote: » My goodness lads is this for real fellas called up on the strength of playing well in a club championship game that was more like a challenge match....it has to be said if Cuthbert did this we would all think that hes gone mad ....I agree Killan Burke must not be high on the management plans ...this strikes me as panic.
CORKDOUBLE wrote: » TTM what ages are O Brien and Leahy ? Cheers.
Gary Neville wrote: » Countdown to Killarney - so who will start ? Our FF line will be Donncha, Hurley and CON and keeper will be KOH - every other line is harder to call. I'd say the HF line will be the one that started v Clare - COD, Collins and Kerrigan. KOD did very well v Brennan and could he be asked to do a man-marking job again or will we go for the fielding skills of Maguire or Goold ? AOC will start but I haven't a clue who'll partner him. Shields and Loughrey will be in the FB line but who else ? Cronin, Tom Clancy, Jamie, Cadogan - stumped again. BOD will be in the HB line but again, no clue who else. Can't even guess this. Ideas ?
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Valid points However Barry deserves it absolutely one hundred and ten per cent this lad has balls steel a want a desire a dogged inward resolve and he can hurl but half back not full back He was on Waterford crystal panel and played challenge v limerick start year awesome and yes injured but begs believe how wasn't called up earlier Brennan showed well in under twenty one game but I wouldn't have him there yet and John Cronin Michael sullivan ahead him Of all lads should been called up from under twenty one Christ sweet heavenly lord should be dennehy Has the penny not dropped in we don't need midfield players but we need a full back Unbelievable to be fair absolutely unbelievable and hear some Cork say we must improve goals v Wexford yes that true but they don't mention we need a full-back The rock so fast point out this negativity in cork hurling surely he could spared another few words with greatest respect to the legend and said Cork need a full back This is just unbelievable Are they watching games at all Cork management O brien is tough bit stuff and may have potential but he's hardly stood out over Jamie Nagle or niall cashman and cashman imo better and yes ucc game I heard no intensity Leahy good in air and can hurl but yes may make it in time but what do they have against John Cronin who hurled well at club and college intermediate and him or Michael sullivan or Shane o keoffr good under twenty one last year and captain Blackrock and good in tight intense barrs match Some calls here are good while others there's lads ahead them should be getting games The two lads added sean I think won't affect Burke at all
CORKDOUBLE wrote: » Football team... Ken O Halloran Jamie O Sullivan Michael Sheilds Eoin Cadogan James Loughrey Tom Clancy Conor Dorman Alan O Connor Fintan Goold Brian O Driscoll Mark Collins Paul Kerrigan Cplm O Neill Brian Hurley Donncha O Connor subs..Paddy O Shea, Noel Galvin, Stephen Cronin, Tomas Clancy, Barry O Driscoll , Ruairi Deane, Ian Maguire, John O Rourke, Paddy Kelly, Daniel Goulding and Colm O Driscoll. its a disgrace that young talented players like Michael Martin, Alan Cronin, Sean White, Kevin Crowley, Sean Kiely , Cathal Vaughan and Dan McEoin have not been involved enough and developed the way a good management would be able to do .
slingerz wrote: » Brian O'Driscoll will be in the back line for certain. and Paddy Kelly has got to start the game while I reckon John O'Rourke will start ahead of Kerrigan. As for the young players not involved i believe Sean White & Kevin Crowley are injured while Cathal Vaughan has choosen to go to the states for the summer.
sean mac wrote: » Ssean white in amreica also I believe? paddy Kelly wont start for some reason this management don't start him. John o rourke must be very doubtful with the shoulder injury?
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » What do make of the hurling chances v Wexford and if we win who would you prefer clare or limerick in round two Who do you think Cork have better chance against in do you fear limerick or clare
sean mac wrote: » I think even with oneill out we may beat wexford but it will br tight and physical,after that i hope we get clare no point messing about lets see how good bad cork are and if jbm has learned,last thing cork need is an easy draw and sleep walking into a beating off tipp or kilkenny
youngbob wrote: » lets not jump the gun. lets try to get over this hurdle first. we know our injuries going into the Wex match. Hope we don't start putting the injury list as an excuse for the result. JBM is into his 4th year. Joyce got his long term injury in Feb (i think). that gave the management plenty of time to try out Fullbacks who have played in that position. In their wisdom they put corner backs there, half backs in the corner. they tried everything except put a FB at No3. Dennehy hasn't put a foot wrong in any game I've seen him in with CIT just like Ellis did at CB before he came into Cork panel. IMO Dennehy should have been drafted into Cork panel before Joyce got injured so if Joyce got cleaned in a match you have a genuine FB to replace him.That way you've have real competition for places. We see it in rugby & soccer all the time. In hurling there are a few special positions FB is a position you must be playing all the time.
Horse84 wrote: » The mindset in this management team and in fact Nash alluded to it in an interview before the waterford match I think it was, is that there's no such thing as a specialist full back in the game anymore. I don't agree with that but it's their thinking it seems and it's a big reason why this team is very weak defensively.
danganabu wrote: » There is a certain element of truth to it but it is a little disingenious, certainly the traditional role of a full back is no longer applicable - as in a big strong physical no non-sense player able to field high ball been rained down on him ( Rock and Lohan two perfect examples) a modern FB needs to be far more versatile and need most of those attriburtes but also need to be fast and a good reader fo teh game in front of them. Basically the modern FB is a mixture between the old traditional FB and a modern day corner back - not an easy mix to find. Galway and Cork have none, Limericks was found out last Sunday and against Clare, Tipp had to convert a wing back to the position and slight doubts still remain and KK tried Murohy there, eventually have settled on Joey Holden. Peter Kelly of Dublin is the best Full Back in the game IMO.
ballbag05 wrote: I feel that game in Limerick next week is even more important than the Wexford game to follow, need for a run to croke park at least needed at this grade, some good young hurlers need to get some big venue experience
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » What do people make of Tompkins and mulchay wanting county champions having captain of county teams back I'd be against it
danganabu wrote: » There's no merit to it at all, it was a lond standing tradition as a reward for being county champions that is no longer needed as the county champions get to represent their county in teh provincail championship, that is there reward ( if any is needed above and beyond actually winning a county final), the role of the captain is very much a diminished one anyway and apart from accepting a trophy if one is won and possibly a small bit of media work its meaningless. Any successfull team will have far more than one ''leader'' in the dressing room, and they won't need an armband to display their leadership. Management are surely in a far more qualified place to select their captaiin that the committee of a club who happened to win the county final, and its simply not worth it for the situations that inevitably arise where the county champions dont have anyone good enough for the first 15.
Orizio wrote: » Of all the things they can come up with to improve hurling they propose this? Completely irrelevant.
