royaler83 wrote: » Any prices for young bulls this week? Have heavy R type angus's & not so great O type Fr
jd06 wrote: » 4.30 plus 12 for quality assured under age heifers today ballon meats
Duke92 wrote: » R and 2 Us The second heifer is a proper one u+ Did you breed her is she a blue blonde cross.
Duke92 wrote: » What are the other 2 by Looks likes there's blonde in the mother Are they heavy and well feed
jd06 wrote: » 3 heifers heading off this evening
Muckit wrote: » Well how did you get on? They seemed young cattle.
severeoversteer wrote: » what are ye getting quoted at the minute lads?
grassroot1 wrote: » 3.60 for p cows 3.70 for Os and 3.90 for Rs today. Price above looks a lot better.
jack o shea wrote: » is it a good time to be selling a few cattle on the mart lads?
Nettleman wrote: » that's exactly where my finished 2 year olds are going in next few weeks-factories from north are bidding hard ringside for finished cattle so going to give the agent the slip this time !!;)
larrymiller wrote: » Also there's a old neighbour of mine who keeps a few cattle and I help him out a small bit. He has a few hex heifers that look ready for the factory but he's non qa and only being offered 4.05 kg. which would probably worout around 900. What would the mart be like for these?
Nettleman wrote: » have a look herehttps://publicapps.agriculture.gov.ie/bpw# -these prices will likely include 12c bonuses-so take off 12c for like-with-like. 4.05 as a base price doesn't sound right in todays tight supply situation
Muckit wrote: » Why would you be bringing them home from the mart? When you bring cattle out to either the factory or the mart, you bring them out to sell them and that's what you have to do. Same as you have to bargain hard with the factory agent, you must not sell soft when you are in the sellers box at the mart. Know what you have and their value. It costs me less than 7euro/hd to blood test the few I sell. If I had numbers it would be less. I consider it money well spent. I wouldn't get the shade of the price I get in the mart in our local factory. The day you sell and the day you buy are two very important days in the drystock man's calendar.
Farmer Pudsey wrote: » You would imagine that they would make at least 2.2/kg LW this is equivlent to a DW price of 4.2/kg stopages in a factory would be slightly less haulage much the same. ris is that you have to bring them home from the mart
Farmer Pudsey wrote: » Buyers pray on the unwary. The reality is that unless you have your own method of haulage( and that is a cost in itself) buyers know that you are at a disadvantage. Finished cattle are a slight different trade to stores. However I am often at a mart and I seldom see really well finished cattle make more than they would at the factory. The reality is that cattle bought through the mart cannot be QA and therefore are not suitable gor UK supermarket trade. I have seen stock bulls make as low as 60% of factory price. In theory hard selling seem easy to do but you need soft buyers and in general the lads around the ring tend not to be doing that. I agre that buyiong and selling days are the most important in the calender and too many farmers ignore there importance.
Muckit wrote: » I suppose I can only speak for myself and my own experiences. It doesn't make sense to me either, but I am sure the lads buying my cattle are not loosing money. It's probably a combination of being beside a factory that are one of the lowest in the country to pay out and selling in one of the best marts in the midlands (IMO). You talk of low prices paid for stock bulls. I seen a 800kg well fleshed BB stock bull make over E2000 last week, a 5year old LM dry cow 835kg make E1800 and heifers ~600kg make E1625. All sold through the ring. Can these prices be achieved in your factory? The heifers made the equivalent of 4.88c/kg dw by my reckoning if they killed out 55% dw. Perhaps my sums are off. RE the QA, there must be factory agents that can get cattle in as QA if they are under the 30mths and coming off a QA farm?
