thegambler2 wrote: » Who was the referee? And also what were the highlights of the scuffle?
TyrionPower wrote: » Terrible news about Billy Nolan - gutted for the lad - a nicer youngfellas you couldn't meet, we were caught for a goalie before he made the step up to the 21s, who can we turn to now?
thegambler2 wrote: » Sean Daly injured at the moment too, back and knee problems I think! No goalkeeper 🙈
hurlinbanter wrote: » also gutted for billy terrible to see any player injured like that ..didn'think seanie barry was gone to america yet is he even definite about going anywhere?
revisionist wrote: » Hardly fair if both teams and a blackguard from one team in particular set out to cause mayhem. The referee can hardly be expected to hold back the tide, the responsibility to behave is entirely on the participants...
DeiseDawg wrote: » Referee was way too slow in getting to the row that started the whole fracas. He walked past another Mr sion and dungarvan player laying into each other and went to consult his umpires while all hell was breaking loose with about 20 players and mentors now involved. If he had calmed things down before going to his umpires this embarrassment may have been averted. Don't know who started it, so not laying the blame on either club, but referee could have quelled it when there was only two players involved. Then when it was too late he started flashing yellows, many of which were mind boggling decisions.
archieknox wrote: » Again you are stirring it with your post but please god nobody takes the bait and we can have ADULT discussions on here instead of point scoring. You know that that wasn't the case so please try to keep to the script!
TyrionPower wrote: » Ah... Ok... I will be ignoring you from now on
archieknox wrote: » To be honest he was completely out of his dept as a referee. If blame is to be laid at anyone's door it must be the clowns that appointed him in the first place. Especially as last year's corresponding fixture had the same rumpus in it.
revisionist wrote: » Both teams should be punished as this is the second year in succession they have indulged in this sort of behaviour . This lack of discipline cannot be excused by the comment that in your opinion the referee was out of his depth. Again it is easy to excuse the many by blaming Dessie. Brian Gavin could have been in charge but both teams seemed more than anxious to indulge in the disgraceful scenes. And it was after just 8 miniutes which prompts me to think that it was little required to light the tinder.
skaface wrote: » Munster Council are to announce venue for Munster Final on Tuesday.. Hopefully common sense prevails, and we agree to play in Thurles.
archieknox wrote: » When a referee dictates from the start of any game and both teams can see he will not be taking any nonsense then more often than not the game will pass without much incident but as the game today showed when the ref is out of his dept its only natural that teams will push things to the limit and that's what happened here. I'm not excusing what happened but in a highly charged championship game all edges will be taken if players think they can get away with it.
Limestone1 wrote: » Why is there any confusion about this - we don't have home and away agreements so the game will not be in walsh Park or Semple. With Cork out of action Limerick is the only feasible venue....much as we dislike it ...............
windy shepard henderson wrote: » limerick is a very small tight pitch would it not suite waterford and there style of play to have the game in thurles , not to mention atmosphere and logistics and in general all round better location
stumblingblock wrote: » Absolute nonsense argument. This is not like blaming the teacher for the kids misbehaving in school. This is about adults who have a duty to go out and not start swinging hurleys at the opposition and behaving like thugs. Both sets of players should be ashamed of themselves. You cannot do anything about the ref is but what you can do is ensure your team goes out and conducts themselves properly and plays the game in a sporting manner. Just be a man about it and face up to the fact that your club behaved appallingly.
stumblingblock wrote: » Its going to be Limerick, unless our co. board tries to do some kind of financial deal like they tried to do with the Cork county board I think it was in 2010. People giving out about having to travel to Limerick I mean come on its not like the other side of the universe. Its under 2 hours from waterford city an hour and a half from most of the west not that long a journey in the larger scheme of things. Id give my right arm to be home for it
archieknox wrote: » If you bothered to read my previous posts I did say it was frightening and dangerous and had no place on a GAA field and that both teams were at fault. I am not for one moment making excuses but the facts of the matter are if you have a weak referee you always have the possibility of what went on today happening at any stage during a game. And he IS a weak referee and again I blame the fools that appointed him. A strong referee whom stamps his authority on a game early stops the possibility of the scenes we had today happening under his watch. He doesn't have a full grasp of the rules and players can sense that. Ryan Donnelly is a very lucky man that he wasn't seriously injured in the fracas. A blow to the head with a broken hurley swung like a hatchet in any other walk of life would see the perpetrators locked up.
stumblingblock wrote: » you keep saying 'im not making excuses' but then go on to do just that which is quite funny. Bottom line is if it happened in the street that person has to take account of their actions as there is no referee to blame. A poor referee is not a licence to go around assaulting other lads with a hurley like a madman..