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The Gay Megathread (see mod note on post #2212)

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Certain individuals seem to be somewhat obsessed with the subject of homosexuality. To avoid the Forum being over-run with numerous threads on this subject, I am launching a MegaThread similar to the ones we already have on other subjects.

Please note that the Forum Charter still applies to megathreads - so try to treat each other with respect and courtesy, even if the subject is one that makes you hot and bothered.

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PopePalpatine

They were only applications, I can't imagine it would be anywhere above a few hundred euro.

MrPudding

PopePalpatine wrote: »

They were only applications, I can't imagine it would be anywhere above a few hundred euro.

It takes a fair bit of money to run a high court session.

I might see if there are any transcripts available.

MrP

aloyisious

At last I know what the gay agenda is, it was kept secret from me........ http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/tennessee-pastor-says-gay-marriage-really-about-recruiting-new-gay-people140615

aloyisious

Breaking news on DGCN online and this news-source... http://www.thejournal.ie/take-a-break-thursday-2168860-Jun2015/

Suspicious letter sent to GLEN offices, Fire Brigade Chemical Hazard teams and Army Bomb Squad called to GLEN offices to deal with parcel.

lazybones32

lol! This relates to Christianity, how exactly? If Jesus' face appeared in the powder or if it was 'delivered' by a Christian, then it could be worthy of being added to this 'thread'.

jobbridge4life

lazybones32 wrote: »

lol! This relates to Christianity, how exactly? If Jesus' face appeared in the powder or if it was 'delivered' by a Christian, then it could be worthy of being added to this 'thread'.

Yeah its not like the bible advocates killing sexually active gay people or anything...:cool:

lazybones32

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Yeah its not like the bible advocates killing sexually active gay people or anything...:cool:

How many gay people have been killed in Ireland for being gay?

[Deleted User]

lazybones32 wrote: »

How many gay people have been killed in Ireland for being gay?

At least 1.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/court-told-student-killed-for-being-gay-29363537.html

silverharp

lazybones32 wrote: »

How many gay people have been killed in Ireland for being gay?

here was one in 1641 , it could happen to a Bishop as they say :pac:

http://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/atherton.htm

THE

LIFE AND DEATH

OF
JOHN ATHERTON

LORD BISHOP

Of
WATERFORD AND LYSMORE
within the Kingdome of Ireland,
borne near Bridgwater in Somersetshire.

Who for Incest, Buggery, and many other enormous crimes, after having lived a vicious life, dyed a shamefull death, and was on the fifth of December last past, hanged on the Gallows Greene at Dublin, and his man Iohn Childe being his Proctor, with whom he had committed the buggery, was hangd in March following at Bandon Bridges, condemned thereunto at the Assises holden at Corke.

jobbridge4life

lazybones32 wrote: »

How many gay people have been killed in Ireland for being gay?

Do you want to include suicides....

aloyisious

lazybones32 wrote: »

lol! This relates to Christianity, how exactly? If Jesus' face appeared in the powder or if it was 'delivered' by a Christian, then it could be worthy of being added to this 'thread'.

You do know whom/what GLEN represents and also what the title of this thread is?

lazybones32

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Do you want to include suicides....

Did you even understand what I asked?! Obviously not...but thanks for contributing.

aloyisious wrote: »

You do know whom/what GLEN represents and also what the title of this thread is?

Yes. However, this 'incident' has little relevance to homosexuality within the Christian context: should we also post about homosexuals who stub their toes, lose their keys or upcoming social events as matters of relevance? I thought there was a specific Category for LGBT issues and until a definite link between this act and Christianity is established, I question its relevance to this thread. Is that okay with you? Can you understand the point I'm making?

Absolam

Deleted User wrote: »

At least 1.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/court-told-student-killed-for-being-gay-29363537.html

There was the murder of Declan Flynn in Fairview Park as well...

jobbridge4life

lazybones32 wrote: »

Did you even understand what I asked?! Obviously not...but thanks for contributing.

I understood completely did you understand mine? How many gay people have killed themselves over the years as a result of dogmatic bullying by the Catholic Church and the society they created that was so hostile to its gay members.

lazybones32

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I understood completely did you understand mine? How many gay people have killed themselves over the years as a result of dogmatic bullying by the Catholic Church and the society they created that was so hostile to its gay members.

How many?

jobbridge4life

lazybones32 wrote: »

How many?

Would even one be acceptable?

aloyisious

lazybones32 wrote: »

Did you even understand what I asked?! Obviously not...but thanks for contributing.

Yes. However, this 'incident' has little relevance to homosexuality within the Christian context: should we also post about homosexuals who stub their toes, lose their keys or upcoming social events as matters of relevance? I thought there was a specific Category for LGBT issues and until a definite link between this act and Christianity is established, I question its relevance to this thread. Is that okay with you? Can you understand the point I'm making?[/QUOTE

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Aloyisious quote.

Look again at the thread title. There is nothing there indicating that it is solely about how Christians treat homosexuals, more so on how homosexuals are mistreated here. If you want to restrict your posts to what you view as the thread topic; eg, Christianity and homosexuals, that's your prerogative. However I don't believe that the issue of how homosexuals are treated here in Ireland is restricted to how Christianity treats homosexuals here. I know that homosexuals of both genders here are not solely from within the Christian faith.

Re your mention of homosexuality and the Christian context (as you call it) I think GLEN was treated in an unchristian manner by the maker of the suspect parcel. Perhaps you might agree with that?

lazybones32

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Would even one be acceptable?

Are rhetorical questions answers?

jobbridge4life

lazybones32 wrote: »

Are rhetorical questions answers?

You asked a question that you knew or ought to have known it would be impossible to answer directly. We don't keep detailed statistics on suicides. We do know that suicide and suicidal ideation is something that disproportionately affects lgbt youth.

I can say from my own personal experience however that I have lost two friends because of it.

As an aside for someone defending Christianity the compassion is just dripping off you:cool:

lazybones32

aloyisious wrote: »

lazybones32 wrote: »

Did you even understand what I asked?! Obviously not...but thanks for contributing.

Yes. However, this 'incident' has little relevance to homosexuality within the Christian context: should we also post about homosexuals who stub their toes, lose their keys or upcoming social events as matters of relevance? I thought there was a specific Category for LGBT issues and until a definite link between this act and Christianity is established, I question its relevance to this thread. Is that okay with you? Can you understand the point I'm making?[/QUOTE

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Aloyisious quote.

Look again at the thread title. There is nothing there indicating that it is solely about how Christians treat homosexuals, more so on how homosexuals are mistreated here. If you want to restrict your posts to what you view as the thread topic; eg, Christianity and homosexuals, that's your prerogative. However I don't believe that the issue of how homosexuals are treated here in Ireland is restricted to how Christianity treats homosexuals here. I know that homosexuals of both genders here are not solely from within the Christian faith.

Re your mention of homosexuality and the Christian context (as you call it) I think GLEN was treated in an unchristian manner by the maker of the suspect parcel. Perhaps you might agree with that?

Seeing as this thread is in the forum/sub-forum Religion + Spirituality> Christianity maybe you could tolerate my questioning of its relevance?

lazybones32

jobbridge4life wrote: »

You asked a question that you knew or ought to have known it would be impossible to answer directly. We don't keep detailed statistics on suicides. We do know that suicide and suicidal ideation is something that disproportionately affects lgbt youth.

I can say from my own personal experience however that I have lost two friends because of it.

As an aside for someone defending Christianity the compassion is just dripping off you:cool:

Excuse you! You made comments that you cannot support with evidence. And now, since you came as close as you can to admitting that you cannot substantiate your claims, you try to make the issue about me and my compassion (or lack thereof)?

*there's no avatar to show that I'm crying...:(

jobbridge4life

lazybones32 wrote: »

Excuse you! You made comments that you cannot support with evidence. And now, since you came as close as you can to admitting that you cannot substantiate your claims, you try to make the issue about me and my compassion (or lack thereof)?

*there's no avatar to show that I'm crying...:(

I made no comment for which I lack evidence. Not one.

And don't flatter yourself, your lack of compassion is not the issue, its just disturbing.

jimd2

jobbridge4life wrote: »

You asked a question that you knew or ought to have known it would be impossible to answer directly. We don't keep detailed statistics on suicides. We do know that suicide and suicidal ideation is something that disproportionately affects lgbt youth.

I can say from my own personal experience however that I have lost two friends because of it.

As an aside for someone defending Christianity the compassion is just dripping off you:cool:

so two friends of yours committed suicide because of dogmatic bullying by the RCC?

Wow, I hope that you and other friends/ family/ acquaintances have pulled the facts together and identify the perpetrators of this. Bring this to the attention of the gardai and the upper echelons of the catholic church.

All else fails then name and shame.

Turtwig

Mod NOTE:

This is the megathread for discussion of all blend of materials LGBT and Christianity. Sometimes the two might not necessarily intertwine. Sometimes they might. In either case, mostly they are all relevant to this particular thread. There are exceptions of course. However in the general spirit of the forum and this thread the perceived attack on GLEN is somewhat relevant to the subject matter.

Also, boards has a strict policy on defamation. DO NOT attempt to name and shame any individuals or organisation in a manner that might attack their right to a presumption of good character. I'm not a lawyer so there's probably some legal folk laughing at the layman explanation. Regardless, don't post anything that you wouldn't want to read about yourself.

jobbridge4life

jimd2 wrote: »

so two friends of yours committed suicide because of dogmatic bullying by the RCC?

Wow, I hope that you and other friends/ family/ acquaintances have pulled the facts together and identify the perpetrators of this. Bring this to the attention of the gardai and the upper echelons of the catholic church.

All else fails then name and shame.

:rolleyes: Cause all the sarcasm in the world can cover up the hideous evils the RCC has perpetrated, the oppression and torture of gay people being just one. Own your hate or denounce it.

Kalman

dlofnep wrote: »

Grand - Let's kick it off so.

Marriage is not solely a religious institution, and as such - nobody has the right to dictate whether two consenting adults of the same sex can marry or not. Religious institutions have no right to interfere with legislation on same-sex marriage.

Same-sex marriage is ultimately no different than 'traditional marriage' in any practical sense.

Homosexuality is perfectly natural, and poses no dangers to society.

Two guys stuffing one and other is not natural.

jobbridge4life

Kalman wrote: »

Two guys stuffing one and other is not natural.

What is it? Artificial?

Delirium

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I made no comment for which I lack evidence. Not one.

And don't flatter yourself, your lack of compassion is not the issue, its just disturbing.

MOD NOTE

Please keep to the topic and avoid getting personal with other posters.

Thanks for your attention.

Bannasidhe

Kalman wrote: »

Two guys stuffing one and other is not natural.

Lucky the internet is natural so you could share that with us all.

tommy2bad

Kalman wrote: »

Two guys stuffing one and other is not natural.

Depends on how you define natural, as in natural law or a thing that happens in nature. If you use the definition of natural law then yes it's not in accord but if your saying it const happen in nature then your wrong, it's far more common that you would think.
Even using natural law theirs a case to be made that it's acceptable. It might be repulsive to you but as you are not the measure of what's natural for anyone other than yourself that's moot.