thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Genuinely not playing any poor mouth but Cork are missing pa Callaghan cahalane Stephen Murphy and horgan from the minor set up so they would be certain starters with cormack who was asked to play senior earlier this year but declined However this Waterford team has exceptional players like Foran who I always rated Devine Gleeson etc so even with fully fit Cork team Waterford would probably be slightly favourite This is a well coached Cork team but the youngest in years so slow start could be a difficult night but if cork stay in the game as long as possible it could be close Cork half back line is strong with all three senior club players in top form with a good full back from the all Ireland winning intermediate team and with the brilliant Spillane and good ball winner in o Neill a good player who played senior in meade and cahalane at midfield and the very promising sean o donughe played senior Cork have good players Waterford you would expect to win and they have more experience than the youngest side in cork history probably but Cork I would hope don't role over Liam Hayes manager from last year intermediate team all Ireland championship is involved and irwin meant be okay so hopefully Cork be competitive
TheScoringGoal wrote: » I've been reading a lot about this Cork team being young etc. Am I correct in saying only mcnulty, kieran Bennett and donnelly are overage next year?
TyrionPower wrote: » Patrick curran could be the best player on show tonight and he only came on the senior panel a few weeks ago, who is to say they don't have more like that?
deiseach wrote: » FAO any Cork people reading this. Do ye have any players of the quality of Patrick Curran bubbling under?
johnkieran1 wrote: » I saw Patrick Curran in action a few times earlier this year and while he was decent most days, he wasn't particularly stand out. Has a tendancy to go AWOL and drift out of games. Has undoubted potential but has a bit to travel in terms of his development.
deiseach wrote: » Sounds like an underage player to me. Seriously, who would you rate down Leeside?
stumblingblock wrote: » A lot of silly people on here writing Cork off on their home patch. People saying its one of Cork’s poorest ever u21 sides but make no bones about it there are no poor players on that Cork team. Yes we have a talented group of players, but all the talk has been about Waterford so the pressure is on to deliver. This Cork side did nothing at minor. Coming in under the radar but will be waiting in the long grass. If ever we were set up for an ambush this is it. They did it last year on our home patch and while people have argued how this year is different weve been down that road before. You would hope the senior lads can carry the momentum of their senior form across but you just don’t know at this level. I would have questions marks about our full back line and throwing a 16 year old in goals at this level is a big gamble. Were far from being a proven outfit. I agree we definitely have a better side on paper but I expect very VERY little to be in this at the end of the 60 mins.
deiseach wrote: » You have to go back to 1938 in the Munster semi-final to find the only other time we beat Cork by a double digit figure in the Championship, NHL, Minor or Under-21. Maybe we did it in the Oireachtas one time...
liogairmhordain wrote: » Next under-21 game - against Clare in Ennis on the 15th of July (this day four weeks)
TyrionPower wrote: » Some win, won handy enough by ten points with a lot left in the tank, left a heap of scores - including goals after us - this really is an unbelievable time to be a Waterford supporter. Shane Bennett, my god we have had some great days out of this 18 year old already... Kieran Bennett also worth a mention, he is an excellent player too, my first time seeing him play
windy shepard henderson wrote: » very good waterford team coming through reminds me alot like our 2012 under21 team 8 or 9 really top notch players most have already seemed to have cracked the senior code munster u21 will be very open again this year with the winners likely going on to win the all ireland ye will defenitly have better individual payers on show while our 21s have been fairing well against inter county senior teams in challange games , we used the munster intermeidate championship as a prep for this competition although in the defeat to limerick e were muscled out of it psychically , cant see us doing a 5 in row ye probably look like the best team in the country at the moment to win this competition so i would make ye favorites the next day for sure
Dick phelan wrote: » I must admit i wouldn't know many players outside of the senior setup but one that really caught the eye was Lyons, still playing minor as well so should be years ahead of him.
DiscoStew wrote: » Good win without ever having to hit top gear which is always nice to be able to say! Was very impressed with the work rate of the players, some of the bigger names especially sacrificed themselves at times to allow others to shine. Stephen Bennett worked tirelessly around the middle of the field in the second half especially and laid on a few scores. Tom Devine had a spell at full back in the first half before thundering into it in the second with strong running and tackling, also laying on scores. Thought Kieran Bennett went very well in the full back line also. Another top class performance from TdB! Dunford and Gleeson probably not as effective as would have hoped. Gleeson had a lot of wasted possessions but to be fair to him he is only readjusting to the forwards again. Had a cracker of a goal which should have stood also. Patrick Curran played very well, from frees and play and showed good willingness to take on the full back line once or twice. Shane Bennett outstanding once again. Some achievement to go straight from his last leaving cert exam to play and score 1-4! Kearney and Phelan both laid on scores well upon their introductions which was another positive. We definitely have more in the tank, however, I would be fearful of the quick turnaround from the Munster final. We had a 10 day run to prepare for this game, that will be 2 days realistically the next day. The players will also either be coming off a high or disappointed going into it. Can make it difficult to refocus. I remember how we shocked a tipp team that were fancied for the u21 all ireland in fraher field 3 days after they had won the senior Munster title. Clare might not be as strong as previous years, but with home advantage and Waterfords quick turnaround I wouldn't be getting carried away just yet. Even if Clare progress in the qualifiers I don't think they have too many u21s involved this year so their preparation will be a lot better than our own.
coopdog85 wrote: » Lads, good and all as he is, what is Gleeson at with the potshots from 70 and 80 yards out? How many wides did he have on his own tonight? He's undoubtedly a very serious hurler with as much skill as anyone playing the game at the minute but the management would want to have a talk with him. He does it for Mt. Sion & he does it for the county seniors & he did it tonight as well. I'm not sure is it poor decision making or over confidence that's making him do it but at one stage he was facing his own goal and tried a blind shot over his shoulder about 40 yards out and at an angle. It's just shocking decision making from a player who's confidence is obviously sky high but he cost Waterford a few points tonight with his rash attempts. I'm not knocking the chap for a second, I'm just frustrated by him because it's the only weak part of his game.
