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Eircode system launching soon

5starpool

So, it seems that in the next few weeks we'll all receive our new Eircode which is a postcode but only for your residence. 2.2m codes will be issued so each property will have their own unique code.

Will people stop using normal addresses on letters/cards/bills, etc? You are just meant to tack it onto the bottom of your address, much like a UK postcode, but if it is only for your residence then aside from the name surely every other piece of your address is now redundant essentially? I'm guessing it'll largely be used initially by the sorting machines to route letters to correct areas for delivery, but I wonder how often people will have 1 letter wrong and it's just blindly delivered despite the rest of the address being totally different? At the minute letters being delivered to wrong addresses is hardly unheard of, but I bet this will make it worse.

Hopefully it'll be rolled out correctly and quickly, but I think that's unlikely and we'll see several teething problems. All that being said, it's about time we had a postcode type system, so hopefully it'll work out well.

https://www.eircode.ie/home

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LFCFan

The attitude in Ireland is that if someone comes goes to the government with a fool proof, cheap, easy idea to solve a problem, the government will go out of their way to find a more expensive, idiotic, crap idea as long as there's something in it for someone along the government food chain. If they are handed a working solution then where will they possibly be able to waste millions of taxpayers money.

Buona Fortuna

Nate--IRL-- wrote: »

Why am I not surprised. Brown envelope for everybody in the audience......

Nate

Its our culture

Nate--IRL--

animaal wrote: »

No, that *is* the point.

As far as I know, you have to pay in order to be able to lookup an address.

It's a win-win. Not for you or me, of course.

Why am I not surprised. Brown envelope for everybody in the audience......

Nate

Canis Lupus

Eircode.... Why can't they just call it post code like everyone else. Why does everything Irish have to be Eir 'something'...

porsche boy

They opted for the wrong system, possibly at the behest of a brown envelope. The reality here is that we should have went with the future proof, GPS based 'loc8' system. It's what other European countries are slowly switching to.

diomed

syklops wrote: »

Why did your colleague say that?

His first reaction to everything was a story, seldom action.

syklops

diomed wrote: »

I read that as "An Post will delay post to prove that the Eircodes don't work (because they won't let them work)"

The situation reminds me of the time in the early 1980s when I put our Accounts Payable system on computer. It took me weeks of late nights and it was running perfectly.
One day I overheard a fellow employee taking a phone call from a supplier who was asking for payment. My colleague was saying we were (he wasn't) installing a new computer system, and it was giving endless problems, and there would be a big delay in payment. I took the phone and assured the supplier that there was no problem, and he would receive payment on the 20th of the month as usual, and on the 20th of every month in future.

Why did your colleague say that?

animaal

Nate--IRL-- wrote: »

Why is the last bit randomised? Doesn't that defeat to whole fcuking point?

Nate

No, that *is* the point.

As far as I know, you have to pay in order to be able to lookup an address.

It's a win-win. Not for you or me, of course.

Nate--IRL--

Why is the last bit randomised? Doesn't that defeat to whole fcuking point?

Nate

diomed

syklops wrote: »

There was something on the news about this a few nights a go and the reporter said "An Post have said the introduction of the eircode, shouldn't cause too many delays".

"Shouldnt cause delays?!?", Surely it should improve delivery and sorting, not cause delays.

This is going to be fun.

I read that as "An Post will delay post to prove that the Eircodes don't work (because they won't let them work)"

The situation reminds me of the time in the early 1980s when I put our Accounts Payable system on computer. It took me weeks of late nights and it was running perfectly.
One day I overheard a fellow employee taking a phone call from a supplier who was asking for payment. My colleague was saying we were (he wasn't) installing a new computer system, and it was giving endless problems, and there would be a big delay in payment. I took the phone and assured the supplier that there was no problem, and he would receive payment on the 20th of the month as usual, and on the 20th of every month in future.

Mountainsandh

I don't understand why they seem to have thought that a geographically logical post code was not an option.
Place names being the same, and one off housing in the middle of nowhere do happen in other countries too, like France.

Back in France you have a number for the region, then a number for the nearest village/townland. Then this is completed with the written address. Postmen and delivery men do well with that.

If a really precise location was needed, well then you could use the geographical number + letter sequence.

The geographically meaningful code benefits everyone in the area/region and outside : it's easier to narrow a search for services in an area one is interested in.
Say, if I'm looking for a campsite in France, I always look at the postcode to make sure it's in the area I want.

Ahhh... but then there would be no lists to sell to parcel/courrier companies, right ?

I live in the sticks too, and have never ever had an issue receiving anything, other than courriers who refuse to drive to us because they're trying to save money by getting us to collect parcels elsewhere.

kneemos

AlekSmart wrote: »

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I'm going to suggest that DENIS O'BRIEN's name will surface here before too much longer....?

Well Irish Water will need a list and location for every house in the country.

Capt'n Midnight

the groutch wrote: »

people are forgetting the most important benefit, that it will make places easier to find for emergency services.

Can't they just triangulate on your mobile phone ?

Of course it would be too much to expect that all the utilities and all the local planning depts would provide the emergency services with a list of their records.

In Italy they just use milestones and distances along roads. Now that we've finally put up all those L1013 signs up we could do that too.

An Post use character recognition so they don't even need a "Post" code anymore.

Junkyard Tom

This is PC gone mad, and big brother, and the nanny state and.. chocolate.... sponge.....

cake?

mikom

the groutch wrote: »

people are forgetting the most important benefit, that it will make places easier to find for emergency services.

For emergency services read Dominoes pizza.

AlekSmart

the groutch wrote: »

People are forgetting the most important benefit, that it will make places easier to find for emergency services.

So it may allow for the rationalization of the "wasteful"..."innefficient" smaller local Emergency Service Locations,staffed by...welll....I dunno...locals,who generally know their locality reasonably well,cos they're....well...Local...Yea ?

But this may mean that the outsourced,new efficient super-emergency- service,run from a big shiny new Super-Station in the City will be able to find the same location actually faster on their new Tablet/Laptop or iWatch...but cos they're NOT actually local to the emergency itself it'll take the new lads longer to get there.....you get the drift ?

I'm going to suggest that DENIS O'BRIEN's name will surface here before too much longer....?

the groutch

people are forgetting the most important benefit, that it will make places easier to find for emergency services.

The_Valeyard

Never had a problem with the current system, so f*ck it, Ill keep going the way I am.

Edit: Dara O Briain video.....

mikom

Blow it out yer hole, Eircode.
More fur coat and no knickers brought to you by the cunts with clipboards.

Buona Fortuna

Got a letter the other day.

~ No Name
~ Wrong Townland
~ Wrong village
~ Just the cottage name

Arrived the very next day

Beat that with a stick.

Mind you it was just full of advertising $hoite

Ruu

What if I don't want to be found by public bodies??

Herpes Cineplex

seamus wrote: »

The system is moronic anyway.

Of course we couldn't have expected anything less than that.

syklops

There was something on the news about this a few nights a go and the reporter said "An Post have said the introduction of the eircode, shouldn't cause too many delays".

"Shouldnt cause delays?!?", Surely it should improve delivery and sorting, not cause delays.

This is going to be fun.

[Deleted User]

The only good thing about Capita being involved is that surely soon they'll manage to do something properly and it'll be this.

_Kaiser_

I can't see it making a difference TBH.. for local/national post people won't bother including it, and for online out-of-State shopping their ordering systems will get even more confused no doubt considering many don't know how to handle a non-US zip code.

Seems like an expensive waste of time to me - especially as there were existing systems we could have used.

But wait... BearingPoint one of the companies behind this is a former arm of KPMG. Funny how the same names keep cropping up over and over eh....?
Interesting reading and timeline here

LadyFenghuang

What Wha what's this now? New thing??? No non onononononoooooooooooooooo

They want a pee sample you say ?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I guard my precious bodily fluids

Yes it is that loopy luna time...

I feel good....

thunderdog

This guy has a link to a draft tech spec of eircode

http://www.ossiansmyth.ie/tag/eircode/

Chucken

Will the colour of my front door influence this?

recyclebin

If this means I don't get a call from every single courier asking for directions then I'm all for it.

I live in the sticks by the way.

OneOfThem

Bollox to that.

Sarah,
Shangri-la Meadows,
Ireland.

It'll get to me.