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N5 - Ballaghaderreen to Scramoge [underway]

lotusm

Hello,

Roughly 30km left to upgrade on the Ballaghdereen to strokestown road on the N5. Has anyone any information if this will happen in the near future

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joujoujou

Something will happen (hopefully).

[...]30 kilometre N5 bypass between Ballaghaderreen and Scramogue Cross.

The route would by-pass Strokestown, Tulsk, Ballinagar, and Frenchpark.[...]

Edit:

http://www.nra.ie/mapping/#53

lotusm

is there a link on the quote segment as I cant seem to open it?

joujoujou

http://www.shannonside.ie/news/public-information-day-today-on-n5-bypass-between-ballaghaderreen-and-scramogue-cross/

lotusm

found this link for Maps
http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/Services/Roads/N5-Ballaghaderreen-to-Scramoge-Road-Project/Appropriate-Assessment-Screening-Report.pdf

joujoujou

lotusm wrote: »

found this ink for Maps
http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/Services/Roads/N5-Ballaghaderreen-to-Scramoge-Road-Project/Appropriate-Assessment-Screening-Report.pdf

...and now attached here to be available for all Boardsies anytime.

dubhthach

lotusm wrote: »

found this link for Maps
http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/Services/Roads/N5-Ballaghaderreen-to-Scramoge-Road-Project/Appropriate-Assessment-Screening-Report.pdf

Reminds me of this boards.ie post

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81560600&postcount=90

dubhthach

According to the following PDF here's some prelimary dates:

Public Consultation March 2015
Design Development & Environmental Assessments Q1 2015 to Q1 2016
Application to An Bord Pleanála Q1 2016

http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/Services/Roads/N5-Ballaghaderreen-to-Scramoge-Road-Project/14155-PC1-Brochure.pdf

Other relevant PDF's here:
http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/Services/Roads/N5-Ballaghaderreen-to-Scramoge-Road-Project/

Taken a wide berth of Cruachan Aí thankfully.

sonnyblack

Enda doing up the route to Mayo by stealth. This scheme will be constructed in his second term IMHO. Shame there is no heavyweight to back the N20

road_high

sonnyblack wrote: »

Enda doing up the route to Mayo by stealth. This scheme will be constructed in his second term IMHO. Shame there is no heavyweight to back the N20

You'd imagine Simon Coveney and Michael noonan as senior ministers are pretty heavyweights in the N20 catchment?

marno21

road_high wrote: »

You'd imagine Simon Coveney and Michael noonan as senior ministers are pretty heavyweights in the N20 catchment?

Seemingly no interest in roads from any of the Cork TD's. I'd love to give Dublin drivers a day on the roads of Cork city, sure the M50 gets blocked but imagine having to contend with an at grade signalised roundabout on your ring road trip.

Anyway, back to the N5

cargo

marno21 wrote: »

Seemingly no interest in roads from any of the Cork TD's. I'd love to give Dublin drivers a day on the roads of Cork city, sure the M50 gets blocked but imagine having to contend with an at grade signalised roundabout on your ring road trip.

Anyway, back to the N5

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.410814,-6.228023,3a,75y,84.04h,87.04t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7DYq2OvPZDSFEkJWUBjU9w!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=en

(yeah yeah I know there's free flow slips etc but couldn't resist)

marno21

Is this planned as S2? If so can the existing road not be rebuilt online?

L1011

marno21 wrote: »

Is this planned as S2? If so can the existing road not be rebuilt online?

Yes. Realistically no, the straightening involved would require major reconstruction and there are serious archaeological concerns in doing that on line.

dubhthach

Here's just the known archaelogy in and around Cruachan Aí.

If you look at the main mound which is beside the N5, you see the following using "geophys"

Ceremonial pathways akin to see at Eamhain Mhacha and Dún Ailinne (the other two major "province capitals"), given the site is included in one of proposed UNESCO world heritage sites for Ireland they'd want to keep any road works miles away from it.

B17G

So will this new section of road end just after Strokestown at Scramoge, since the NRA link has it ending at the Longford Bypass. Has it been shortened on the grounds of cost I wonder? No new bridge over the Shannon bypassing Tarmonbarry?

paulbok

That's the only place I've seen a mention of it joining up to the Longford bypass.
Preferred corridor maps have it finishing at Scramogue.

L1011

Tarmonbarry would be a simple enough but rather dear bypass - would probably have to be a high level bridge as I doubt they want to put another lift bridge on a national route.

lotusm

guylikeme posted the below link from another forum... regarding this stretch road...looks like election talk and the boys in An Taisce are not happy about the route being taken

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97061723

Carawaystick

lotusm wrote: »

the boys in An Taisce are not happy about the route being taken

Are they ever...

marno21

Tenders awarded by Roscommon County Council for land valuation, watercourse investigation, archaelogical services & ground investigation along this route.

Looks like this routing is being pressed ahead with for the N5.

lotusm

marno21 wrote: »

Tenders awarded by Roscommon County Council for land valuation, watercourse investigation, archaelogical services & ground investigation along this route.

Looks like this routing is being pressed ahead with for the N5.

When that is complete, what usually happens next ?

MayoSalmon

What kind of time would this take off the Dublin - Castlebar journey?

L1011

MayoSalmon wrote: »

What kind of time would this take off the Dublin - Castlebar journey?

Wouldn't take a lot off theorethical times as the route is longer (but avoiding some 50/60/80 zones) however it'll take huge amounts off trips caught behind trucks/buses/tourists/tractors, or market day in Strokestown, as well as massively reduce the stress levels of the trip.

Red Kev

MayoSalmon wrote: »

What kind of time would this take off the Dublin - Castlebar journey?

Realistically 15-20 minutes. Probably 20 in summer as you won't be getting stuck behind tractors etc.

Also improves general road safety as its a dangerous stretch of road as it is.

marno21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGFSyLHroi8

Discussion on the N5 from the Dail during the week.

For reference, AADT through Termonbarry is 4600.

discodaveirl

http://www.shannonside.ie/news/local/roscommon/government-gives-green-light-n5-upgrade-ballaghaderreen-scramogue/

Didnt want to open a new thread yet...

marno21

N5 Ballaghaderreen to Scramoge approved by Government to proceed to ABP..

http://www.shannonside.ie/news/local/roscommon/government-gives-green-light-n5-upgrade-ballaghaderreen-scramogue/

Straight away the locals are off

http://www.shannonside.ie/news/local/roscommon/bypass-present-huge-challenge-strokestown/

MayoSalmon

marno21 wrote:

Straight away the locals are off

Embarrassing stuff

Truckermal

marno21 wrote: »

N5 Ballaghaderreen to Scramoge approved by Government to proceed to ABP..

http://www.shannonside.ie/news/local/roscommon/government-gives-green-light-n5-upgrade-ballaghaderreen-scramogue/

Straight away the locals are off

http://www.shannonside.ie/news/local/roscommon/bypass-present-huge-challenge-strokestown/

Jesus would you look at the cut of the place! I've passed through the kip thousands of times and the thought of stopping there is the last thing on my mind!

Now Tarmonbarry is different especially Keenans for the grub!

Big Nasty

Truckermal wrote: »

Jesus would you look at the cut of the place! I've passed through the kip thousands of times and the thought of stopping there is the last thing on my mind!

Now Tarmonbarry is different especially Keenans for the grub!

+1 Keenans is a fine spot as is the Purple Onion next door. Never stopped in Strokestown in my 10 years travelling to Mayo.

Any word on when they hope to start work on it? Considering there'll be CBO's involved it probably won't be completed for another 5 years.