garda corruption alive and well

makeorbrake wrote: »

Ok, so what you are saying is the above never happened, if I'm understanding you correctly?

She probably was stopped. I'm asking why you think it's part of the conspiracy.

makeorbrake wrote: »

Umm...I don't know. I mean, I've never driven a car whilst 2 gardai were flailing the car with their batons. Have you? You think your driving would be ok with that?

I think you'll find the batons came out after he failed to stop. They were most likely going to smash a window and pull him out of the car. That's what happens to people who fail to stop in accordance with the law. If he'd simply followed the instruction he was given he would have been fine. Evading arrest is not a good reason to run people over.

makeorbrake wrote: »

What Freeman crowd!! I.I. has NOTHING to do with any 'Freeman' crowd.

They do in that they interpret the law to suit themselves.

makeorbrake wrote: »

Yes, lets just add any random nonsense on to this...

Is that not the game?

makeorbrake wrote: »

It's no longer about Joe Doocey. He's not the mark. I.I. is the mark - and they are exerting pressure via Doocey. LINK

To what end?

makeorbrake wrote: »

Well, have you not just said it - there are good and bad Gardai. All I.I. are looking for is accountability and transparency. In fact, from what I understand (and I'm not a member of I.I.), they are in contact with Gardai that admire what they are doing - that want their profession cleaned up.

That's just bollocks. Their actions in the court house show that they aren't interested in following the law when it doesn't suit them and are only interested in putting on a show.

wupucus wrote: »

isn't it great the way all the social workers sit on their arses and slag off the Gardaí - yet they expect them to come running everytime their pathetic little lives are threatened by the scum off the streets- the Gardaí do a hell of a tough job- sure they are not perfect- as in every walk of life their are good and bad Gardaí- next time you wanna hurl abuse at them - remember who keeps the scum from your door

Well, have you not just said it - there are good and bad Gardai. All I.I. are looking for is accountability and transparency. In fact, from what I understand (and I'm not a member of I.I.), they are in contact with Gardai that admire what they are doing - that want their profession cleaned up.

The same applies to the judiciary, the courts service and the legal profession.

Who - wupucus - can argue with that?

And who is hurling abuse exactly? ...in the case that was directed at me.

wupucus

isn't it great the way all the social workers sit on their arses and slag off the Gardaí - yet they expect them to come running everytime their pathetic little lives are threatened by the scum off the streets- the Gardaí do a hell of a tough job- sure they are not perfect- as in every walk of life their are good and bad Gardaí- next time you wanna hurl abuse at them - remember who keeps the scum from your door

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I have to ask, why would you think Gardaí in Wicklow even know about Mr Doocey, never mind be able to recognise his partners car and be willing to pull it over for some bogey reason?

Ok, so what you are saying is the above never happened, if I'm understanding you correctly?

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You ask if he is a danger behind the wheel. I would think the incident where he hit another car and ran into a Garda would be fairly good evidence that he is a danger.

Umm...I don't know. I mean, I've never driven a car whilst 2 gardai were flailing the car with their batons. Have you? You think your driving would be ok with that?

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

If he is mixing with the Freeman crowd

What Freeman crowd!! I.I. has NOTHING to do with any 'Freeman' crowd.

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

he probably doesn't have tax or insurance either.

Yes, lets just add any random nonsense on to this...

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I'd love to here some reasonable explanation as to why the entire Garda organisation and Judicial bench are supposed to be conspiring against this guy. To date the only motivation he has suggested is that he once dated a woman after a Garda broke up with.

It's no longer about Joe Doocey. He's not the mark. I.I. is the mark - and they are exerting pressure via Doocey. LINK

mynamejeff wrote:

some people are taking as fact these vids postied on facebook or youtube without even the slightest attempt at presenting proof.

The proof is there in spades. You can start with Stephen Mannings case(s). It's all there in affidavits.

mynamejeff wrote:

this man has mental issues very clearly and he needs treatment not encouragement .he has moved from being a mild entertainment with his nonsense claims about phantom warrants and vast complex national conspiracies and elaborate smoke and mirror games to get his a three month jail term to actually hurting people and damaging innocent peoples cars

Well, I'm happy for you - that you feel that another individuals misfortunes are a source of amusement to you. At this stage, you're either a troll, or a vested interest....because if you are neither of these things, shame on you.

@makeorbreak

sorry but this thread is beyond nuts .

some people are taking as fact these vids postied on facebook or youtube without even the slightest attempt at presenting proof.

If you have some proof please present it right here and right now?

anytime some one points this out one of the trolls jumps on them.

this man has mental issues very clearly and he needs treatment not encouragement .

he has moved from being a mild entertainment with his nonsense claims about phantom warrants and vast complex national conspiracies and elaborate smoke and mirror games to get his a three month jail term to actually hurting people and damaging innocent peoples cars

extra gravy wrote: »

That integrity Ireland Facebook page is good for a laugh. Do any of these people have jobs or do they just spend their time making embarrassing videos and coming up with conspiracy theories?

They seem to spend a lot of time in Mayo courts and Garda stations

extra gravy

That integrity Ireland Facebook page is good for a laugh. Do any of these people have jobs or do they just spend their time making embarrassing videos and coming up with conspiracy theories?

makeorbrake wrote: »

All I know is that he had an expert witness ready to take the stand but wasn;t given the opportunity.

In the meantime, it transpires that Mr. Doocey's partner was stopped by Gardai in Wicklow today - for 'driving erratically'.

Are they both such a danger to society behind the wheel now? How much coincidence do we need here? Wake up and smell the coffee!

his experts testimony was irrelevant. It didn't prove anything that was or ever has been disputed. He was trying to use the expert to prove a different point to what the expert was stating. I'll give you a similar example. Let's say Doocey claimed he was only given two meals during the day. He then gets a nutrition expert in to say a person should get three meals a day. He rests his case. His expert testimony isn't disputed. It's his claim that he only got two meals that is disputed and his expert cannot contribute to proving this claim at all.

I have to ask, why would you think Gardaí in Wicklow even know about Mr Doocey, never mind be able to recognise his partners car and be willing to pull it over for some bogey reason? You ask if he is a danger behind the wheel. I would think the incident where he hit another car and ran into a Garda would be fairly good evidence that he is a danger. If he is mixing with the Freeman crowd he probably doesn't have tax or insurance either.

I'd love to here some reasonable explanation as to why the entire Garda organisation and Judicial bench are supposed to be conspiring against this guy. To date the only motivation he has suggested is that he once dated a woman after a Garda broke up with.

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

His expert said it was his signature. His smoking gun was about indentations in the paper. Mr Doocey claimed that statements are taken on individual sheets and filed so indentations proved that all the statements had come from the same copy pad and this was evidence of them being doctored. In reality, all this means is that the Garda taking statements put the completed sheets underneath the fresh ones as he was taking the statement.

All I know is that he had an expert witness ready to take the stand but wasn;t given the opportunity.

In the meantime, it transpires that Mr. Doocey's partner was stopped by Gardai in Wicklow today - for 'driving erratically'.

Are they both such a danger to society behind the wheel now? How much coincidence do we need here? Wake up and smell the coffee!

makeorbrake wrote: »

My understanding is that he had an independent expert lined up to give evidence with regard to that matter - but the courts would not afford him the opportunity of producing that witness!

His expert said it was his signature. His smoking gun was about indentations in the paper. Mr Doocey claimed that statements are taken on individual sheets and filed so indentations proved that all the statements had come from the same copy pad and this was evidence of them being doctored. In reality, all this means is that the Garda taking statements put the completed sheets underneath the fresh ones as he was taking the statement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opH_hME-Cjo

mynamejeff wrote: »

Why wouldn't they engage with him ? are you saying they shouldn't do their jobs

No. I'm asking a question....Is it not highly coincidental that someone that has claimed ongoing sustained abuse (in it's various forms) at the hands of gardai - originally local - but now national) - in which a number of those processes are very fresh (as in within hours of him being stopped) and ongoing - that he was stopped for ...whatever they are now going to put this down to now??
It's not a 20 year old boy racer we're talking about. It's a grown man - who was in the middle of town - so he could hardly rack up serious speed. Furthermore, when he told them he wasn't playing along with yet another episode of abuse, he told them so - proceeded to drive and stopped at the red traffic light that was up ahead....at which point, they started flailling his car with battons.

mynamejeff wrote: »

because he spouts nonsense every time he is brought before the courts ?

Nonsense - that's YOUR opinion - there is a growing body of people that know better!

mynamejeff wrote: »

in reality id say he is treated with as much good humor as possible

You should be ashamed of yourself - as should others on this thread. Hang your heads in shame. If you are going to denigrate this man's character - a man who has been through - and continues to go through hell - you might investigate the FACTS beforehand.
You know, Frank McBrearty's kids were bullied and treated badly by locals - until he FINALLY got justice. Are you part of this mob - because that's exactly what's going on here.

mynamejeff wrote:

you have no idea how why or even if she was fired .

Yes, I do. And so should you - if you're going to belittle someone and suggest blatantly that they have mental issues, you should be on firm ground when doing so. LINK

mynamejeff wrote:

just the ranting of some one who cant even keep his own delusions straight ie the warrant that he alleged didnt exist

That's an untruth.

mynamejeff wrote:

convicted of one count after a district and circuit court trial and judicial review hearing of harassment.

Yes, and they wanted to do Frank McBrearty for murder/manslaughter. They wanted to do Ian Bailey for murder. I served on a jury recently where a jury member told us he had a 1st cousin wrongly convicted (with the decision later overturned). The point is that there is a lack of transparency and accountability in all mechanisms of state - but particularly, the gardai, the courts service and the legal 'profession'.

mynamejeff wrote:

he seems to have already admitted to hit and run

Well, we have not heard from him - himself on that. However, it's useful that you articulate this completely out of context. i.e. gardai were flailing battons at his car at the time.

Little CuChulainn wrote:

His claims about forged signatures are based on some incorrect assumption he has about the kind of paper that was used. He has not produced one iota of proof or motive for a national conspiracy against him.

My understanding is that he had an independent expert lined up to give evidence with regard to that matter - but the courts would not afford him the opportunity of producing that witness!

obezyana wrote:

If all of this is true and it all started over a woman she must of been some looker. Any chance of a picture of her so we can all be the judge of whether he deserved the harassment or not?????

Sure - I take the point that it doesn't seem to add up at first glance (I was a sceptic myself on hearing the nuts and bolts of it originally - and I'm still unclear as to how this went down in earlier years). However, the deal is that he himself is not the 'mark' in more recent times. He himself is not really the 'mark' for the attention from Dublin. By all accounts, it's his involvement with Integrity Ireland that is bringing the heat down on him. One of the reasons given for the raid was that I.I. is a 'threat to the state'! lol:D
The materials that were confiscated were done so with the purpose of seizing materials related to I.I. When he and his partner were arrested and questioned the other week, the question had to be asked continually, was it J.D. that was being investigated or I.I.

I.I. are asking the hard questions of the Judiciary, the courts service, the legal profession and the gardai. They are also putting a candidate forward in the forthcoming election (should he be selected as part of the '1st Independent Mayo' initiative). No doubt, all of this has not escaped the notice of the powers that be in Castlebar Dublin :-)

TheLastMohican

wildlifeboy wrote: »

You might want to watch it first

I imagine a bad case of karpal tunnel or you're a very minor out of control civil servant

NachoBusiness

He and his current partner were arrested again a few weeks back:

I've watched both his videos and there are many inaccuaracies in his understanding of the legal system and legislation in general. Both he and his wife claim to have gotten legal advice but the advice they get seems to be completely wrong. His claims about forged signatures are based on some incorrect assumption he has about the kind of paper that was used. He has not produced one iota of proof or motive for a national conspiracy against him.

makeorbrake wrote: »

Really? :-)

So you think that a Garda would pull him over when a number of court proceedings are in train (one of them only hours beforehand) - pointedly alleging garda malpractice/malfeasance?

And you allege who is delusional.....??

Ok, so she is guilty by association then? So - if you are employing someone and the guards come and whisper something in your ear, then you would immediately serve notice on your employee?

Allegedly. And if that's innocence expressing itself, then you're a model citizen of a state where there's no accountability for state bodies nor is there any transparency. Sometimes it seems to me that citizens are deserving of the governance that they have at some stage endorsed.

Why wouldn't they engage with him ? are you saying they shouldn't do their jobs because he spouts nonsense every time he is brought before the courts ?
in reality id say he is treated with as much good humor as possible , until he started hurting gardai that is.

you have no idea how why or even if she was fired . just the ranting of some one who cant even keep his own delusions straight ie the warrant that he alleged didnt exist

convicted of one count after a district and circuit court trial and judicial review hearing of harassment. the other matters are still before the courts but he seems to have already admitted to hit and run

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bid-to-quash-harassment-conviction-turned-down-26001667.html

obezyana

If all of this is true and it all started over a woman she must of been some looker. Any chance of a picture of her so we can all be the judge of whether he deserved the harassment or not?????

mynamejeff wrote: »

Did nt read that they appeared in court , Just that "he says that they say" .......
as for stopping his after the court might well be that they knew he was committing a road traffic offence or existing warrants or any number of reasons but because this man preferred to risk the lives of gardai than pull over and asked to do.

Really? :-)

So you think that a Garda would pull him over when a number of court proceedings are in train (one of them only hours beforehand) - pointedly alleging garda malpractice/malfeasance?

And you allege who is delusional.....??

mynamejeff wrote:

the initial claim is that the gardai raided his house without a warrant. now its a incorrect warrant.

It was reported that it was 'an incorrect warrant'. Mr. Doocey alleges that there was no warrant produced on the day - that he asked for one - and they said 'we don't need one'.

mynamejeff wrote:

If his partner has a similar attitude to him i wouldn't fancy having her work for me either.

Ok, so she is guilty by association then? So - if you are employing someone and the guards come and whisper something in your ear, then you would immediately serve notice on your employee?

mynamejeff wrote:

as it stands he harassed one woman sent threats to judges and gardai disrupted courts damaged a innocent bystanders car and injured a garda ........

Allegedly. And if that's innocence expressing itself, then you're a model citizen of a state where there's no accountability for state bodies nor is there any transparency. Sometimes it seems to me that citizens are deserving of the governance that they have at some stage endorsed.

Did nt read that they appeared in court , Just that "he says that they say"

If his partner has a similar attitude to him i wouldn't fancy having her work for me either.

SDU and NBCI are completely different organisations organisations inside the gardai.

every one who disagrees with his point of view or tries to stop or prevent his behavior is part of a vast conspiracy against this poor mayo farmer.

the initial claim is that the gardai raided his house without a warrant. now its a incorrect warrant.

is it more likely that there is a vast conspiracy involving local and national garda the legal profession judges and the dpp and the media or that this man has some mental issues ?

as for stopping his after the court might well be that they knew he was committing a road traffic offence or existing warrants or any number of reasons but because this man preferred to risk the lives of gardai than pull over and asked to do.

as it stands he harassed one woman sent threats to judges and gardai disrupted courts damaged a innocent bystanders car and injured a garda ........

mynamejeff wrote: »

hardly a x files style conspiracy

Gee, well I guess his partner and his father are lying also then when they back up his claim that some 20 odd SDU gardai from Harcourt Street forced their way into his house?

His partner is lying about being arrested at her place of work, taken to Claremorris Garda station and then being questioned about munitions and weaponry (and immediately afterwards lost her job....presumably on the basis of something that was said to her employer)?

And as regards the 'news item' you linked to in your pen-ultimate post, what business do you think the Gardai had with Mr. Doocey in stopping him on the road - on the very same day as he had been in court in a case he is taking against them!?

makeorbrake wrote: »

That aspect of his claims is corroborated.

if his computers were seized for sending threatening emails they would be analysed at the computer crime section which is part of NBCI.

hardly a x files style conspiracy

That aspect of his claims is corroborated.

Enjoy Heroin Responsibly wrote: »

Where his story starts to fall apart is when cops are being brought in from Harcourt Street I mean redneck cops tend to be lazy by nature and are not going to be arsed arranging such a ludicrously elaborate conspiracy. Involving judges, lawyers and coppers from other parts of the country. The more elaborate the conspiracy the more likelihood of an honest cop becoming involved, smelling a rat and blowing the whistle.

http://www.thejournal.ie/garda-injured-hit-and-run-2152316-Jun2015/

Turtyturd

Couldn't you have made a video of those posts instead?

Enjoy Heroin Responsibly

If the guy was just claiming to be the victim of a vendetta/stich-up by a redneck cop in a provincial backwater well yes the story is believable -these things do happen.

Where his story starts to fall apart is when cops are being brought in from Harcourt Street I mean redneck cops tend to be lazy by nature and are not going to be arsed arranging such a ludicrously elaborate conspiracy. Involving judges, lawyers and coppers from other parts of the country. The more elaborate the conspiracy the more likelihood of an honest cop becoming involved, smelling a rat and blowing the whistle.

irish_major wrote: »

I watched the whole thing. 50 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

If one wants to post a long rambling monologue on the interweb without illustrating text of graphics why use youtube I mean what the fup's wrong with plain old fashioned searchable, quotable, bandwidth-light text ?

Posting a rant of this type on a video sharing site should be (and I'm sure Amnesty International and Human rights watch will back me up 100% on this) be a capital offence punishable by the most barbaric and twisted forms of torture devised by the most perverted minds with the family billed for the torturers time/materials and the whole procedure shown on national primetime television.

[Deleted User]

I know alot of Gardai, i honestly dont think they know how to be corrupt, let alone spell it.

for the purposes of this conversation , yes , yes i do know ,

that man is in need of medication not likes on facebook and views on youtube

John_Rambo

mynamejeff wrote: »

hardly the same thing now is it.

I don't know. Do you?

hardly the same thing now is it.

this lad clearly has some serious mental health issues. just because he has access to the internet doesn't mean he has a valid cause.

John_Rambo

mynamejeff wrote: »

knee deep in nut bag crazy

but sure its anti garda so its properly true

Maybe. I'm not anti Gardai at all, but I have an open mind.

Did you say the same about the McBrearty family when the corruption claims were first made?