Will Saudi Arabia go nuclear?

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Definitely not a country to get nuclear weapons. If this place became a nuclear armed superpower, god help the rest of us.

I don't think you could call them a nuclear superpower unless they also had a good delivery system which I very much doubt they would ever get

I know someone who was in the British army and he spent some time in saudi arabia, he thinks their army is a joke, they spend billions on amazing high tech weapons but the people who use it are the most incompetent fools he ever saw in uniform

nokia69 wrote: »

I don't think you could call them a nuclear superpower unless they also had a good delivery system which I very much doubt they would ever get

I know someone who was in the British army and he spent some time in saudi arabia, he thinks their army is a joke, they spend billions on amazing high tech weapons but the people who use it are the most incompetent fools he ever saw in uniform

This precisely makes it more scary. Saudi Arabia is primarily the way it is because the royal family are cow towing to the country's very powerful religious extremists. The problem is an organisation like ISIS or al Qaeda could take it over. And the progress ISIS are making as it is is scary.

Son Of A Vidic

The world's leading state sponsor of Sunni extremist terrorism and great violator of Human Rights - Saudi Arabia. Can probably do whatever they want, because they'll always have the full blessing & tacit support of their hypocritical US buddies.

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

This precisely makes it more scary. Saudi Arabia is primarily the way it is because the royal family are cow towing to the country's very powerful religious extremists. The problem is an organisation like ISIS or al Qaeda could take it over. And the progress ISIS are making as it is is scary.

ISIS are a group like them will take over, its just a matter of time IMO

there are up sides to having ISIS in power in saudi arabia, at least the west might not allow them to continue building and controlling mosques all over the world

biko

We should nuke from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

[Deleted User]

Amalgam wrote: »

..it's called, 'Nuclear ambiguity', if you have a quick read of the Wiki on Israel and nuclear weapons, it hits on that policy of nuclear ambiguity and goes into the rationale, not being recognised by the NPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty) very much has its advantages.

Nuclear weapons and Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

That's very specifically the case for Israel though, who are as good as admitting they have nuclear weapons but won't be bare-faced about it for political reasons. Everyone knows they have nuclear weapons so there is just as much a deterrent as if they were parading them.

What are the other nations among the 'quite a few' who are possessing nuclear weapons but saying nothing about it? It wouldn't make any political sense, unless some rogue nation was targeting an out-of-the-blue attack on another leading to their own inevitable destruction.

nokia69 wrote: »

ISIS are a group like them will take over, its just a matter of time IMO

there are up sides to having ISIS in power in saudi arabia, at least the west might not allow them to continue building and controlling mosques all over the world

What the West and other countries should do is find alternatives to Saudi Arabia for oil. Develop good relations with Iran and other places and you will find a lot of things will improve.

The world has relied on a the rogue nation of Saudi Arabia for way too long. It is the worst offender in the region when it comes to human rights abuse and state sponsored terrorism. The place is loaded with money but spends nothing on the people. ISIS and the Saudi royal family could well do a deal if needs be as well. I'd be almost certain ISIS get funding from some elements of Saudi Arabia's political, religious or business sectors.

The place is loaded with money but spends nothing on the people

Says who?? You really need to do some research prior to statements like this.

Have you actually gone to Saudi Arabia?

captainfrost

Always thought they had before. They why is that hollywood potral Rich Arabs as nuclear, women, gold and oli loving fellow?
But even if they do not have, this people do not look like they give a sh1t about permission.

smurfjed wrote: »

Says who?? You really need to do some research prior to statements like this.

Have you actually gone to Saudi Arabia?

Saudi Arabia should be a modern, moderate enlightened civilisation. Instead, it is an animist backward voodoo culture where stone age beliefs live side by side with skyscrapers. Connected people and those who go along with making money for the 3000 year old animist/voodoo church there as well as their corrupt royal patrons do well. But what about the ordinary people? No. Many live nomadic lives, many live in poor shanties, many face the most appalling of punishments for minor offences.

Look at that guy in the news at the moment. He gets flogged every few weeks and then gets 10 years in prison. And no that's not the worst of it. The animist voodoo regime is not above borrowing from the non-violent means of Ceaucescu either: when he is free from prison he has a 240000 debt and can't leave the fascist hellhole for 10 years. In other words, he will starve to death then (if the fascist voodoo cult still is around in 10 years). And no he is not an ISIS or al Qaeda terrorist!! But guilty of just requesting more freedoms. Which is a crime in this fascist neo-Nazi country.

Saudi Arabia is blessed with oil reserves, an ancient civilisation and a coastline and climate that would attract billions of tourists. It squanders it all because of their stubborn and arrogant belief in a religion that predates Judaism, Christianity and - surprise! - Islam. It still adheres to the intolerant beliefs Moses, Jesus and Mohammed all rebelled against.

Have you actually gone to Saudi Arabia?

Based on your response above, i take it you haven't visited Saudi Arabia!

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

What the West and other countries should do is find alternatives to Saudi Arabia for oil

OPEC and the saudis are finished

Zebra3

Egginacup wrote: »

what with the Saudis having to send their forces to crush a popular uprising in Bahrain 3 years ago

Can you please explain why Saudi Arabia HAD to invade a neighbouring country and crush pro-democracy demonstrations?

Surely they had the option not to invade?

HAD to invade

They were asked to provide assistance by the King of Bahrain who also happens to be a sunni.

Zebra3 wrote: »

Surely they had the option not to invade?

true

but from their point of view the shia had to be crushed

thats why they are backing ISIS with so much money

Zebra3 wrote: »

Can you please explain why Saudi Arabia HAD to invade a neighbouring country and crush pro-democracy demonstrations?

Surely they had the option not to invade?

Because ALL these royal families are friends of each other and have a cozy club going. If one Gulf monarchy falls, it could mean the others do. Saudi Arabia don't want this to happen for obvious reasons.

nokia69 wrote: »

true

but from their point of view the shia had to be crushed

thats why they are backing ISIS with so much money

This is precisely it. The Saudis have been active about crushing all other forms of Islam apart from their tribal primitive Wahabi sect for decades. Saudi money took down the Pahlavi dynasty that were about to make Iran the second richest Asian power after Japan. Saudi money fueled tensions in Palestine, Israel and Lebanon. Saudi money created the Afghan 'Islamic' resistance that would become al Qaeda and the Taliban. Saudi money continues to undermine Iran, Iraq and other rivals. Saudi money supports other likeminded Gulf/Arabian Peninsula monarchies. And Saudi money also supports ISIS.

But the US and the West continue to support Saudi Arabia because the alternative is a world like this:

http://madmax.wikia.com/wiki/Mad_Max_2

Zebra3

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Because ALL these royal families are friends of each other and have a cozy club going. If one Gulf monarchy falls, it could mean the others do. Saudi Arabia don't want this to happen for obvious reasons.

But that's still a choice they made.