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[Deleted User]

Buer wrote: »

Sooooo....GoT....
Given the high quality of the second last episodes in all season's to date, that was pretty disappointing. The last two weeks were much better, to my mind. The final scenes with the dragons? Pretty poor stuff. You knew it was coming at some point but it was pretty tacky and fake looking when she climbed onto the dragon and flew off. Very little by the way of genuine tension and drama in that episode, relative to previous seasons.

Each season doesn't need to follow the same ARC of "big episode 9" set up for next season in episode 10.

We've had a big event in 8, a medium sized event in 4 and whilst certainly slower and more disjointed than season 4 I still think it's been a quality season.

As for this episode, the ending was decent - not great but decent but I think next week we're in for a couple of major scenario's coming to a head and it should be good.

Also I thought the murder of Shireen was easily one of the most despairing moments of the show so far so it had that going for it.

Buer

Deleted User wrote: »

Also I thought the murder of Shireen was easily one of the most despairing moments of the show so far so it had that going for it.

It was but we knew that was coming a couple of weeks ago. I felt it was just weak in so far that the season has been building to big moments and they haven't really delivered. While the white walkers were cool last week, it wasn't a moment that really catches you off guard. One of the great things about the show is that it can really take you by surprise but this season hasn't managed that, I think, with the arrest of Cersei being the one notable exception to my mind.

The second to last episode doesn't need to be one of great drama and shock according to any formula but the show's popularity is partly based in that element and it hasn't delivered in that aspect this season. I've loved the intrigue and build up, particularly in the middle few episodes but even the tension that was built in those episodes has melted away. I think they've really got the pacing wrong this season, dedicating far too much to certain aspects.

I've enjoyed it overall as a season but undoubtedly the weakest thus far, to my mind. Very disjointed. There are entire sequences that I look back on and think they were nothing more than filler.

awec

this season has by and large been poor compared to the others. Pure filler. The fight scene at the end was awful, and Jorah's sword was bending all over the place during his fight!

Buer

awec wrote: »

this season has by and large been poor compared to the others. Pure filler. The fight scene at the end was awful, and Jorah's sword was bending all over the place during his fight!

The tumble from him as his kill move was awful. I actually skipped back to watch it again, thinking I must have seen it wrong. Nope, this old lad does a clumsy forward tumble at the speed of a tortoise and stabs a warrior, killing him. Given the top class level of fight scenes that have gone before, it was shabby.

awec

Buer wrote: »

The tumble from him as his kill move was awful. I actually skipped back to watch it again, thinking I must have seen it wrong. Nope, this old lad does a clumsy forward tumble at the speed of a tortoise and stabs a warrior, killing him. Given the top class level of fight scenes that have gone before, it was shabby.

yea that was daft. there have been a few crappy fight scenes this season, there was one in Dorne a few seasons back where you could clearly see nobody was hitting anyone.

I wonder if they've had a budget cut or something.

thomond2006

GoT:

I think they used up all their Awesome Fight Scene Budget on the white walkers last week!

My prediction for the season finale scene will be something to do with Bran that is a cliffhanger a la Daenarys with the Dragons at the end of Season 1. (I haven't read the books so complete guess!)

Buer

thomond2006 wrote: »

GoT:
I think they used up all their Awesome Fight Scene Budget on the white walkers last week!

Quite possibly.

The CGI of Daenerys on the dragon at the end was really poor

Neil3030

I don't watch Game of Thrones but I don't want to miss out on all the spoiler fun

thomond2006

Neil3030 wrote: »

I don't watch Game of Thrones but I don't want to miss out on all the spoiler fun

Here's what you need to know:

John Hayes is a ligind.

Neil3030

thomond2006 wrote: »

Here's what you need to know:
John Hayes is a ligind.

Strikes me as the sort of show me might be able source some work as an extra

awec

thomond2006 wrote: »

GoT:
I think they used up all their Awesome Fight Scene Budget on the white walkers last week!

My prediction for the season finale scene will be something to do with Bran that is a cliffhanger a la Daenarys with the Dragons at the end of Season 1. (I haven't read the books so complete guess!)

I don't think Bran will feature this series at all. I think that storyline has been parked and we'll be watching the same characters again. (I have read the books)

Buer

awec wrote: »

I don't think Bran will feature this series at all. I think that storyline has been parked and we'll be watching the same characters again. (I have read the books)

Hopefully, next week gives a little development on the situation at King's Landing and Winterfell. I think we can probably park the situations in Dorne and Meereen for this season. I'd like to gain a little closure on the Bravos situation, though. Too much time invested. If nothing happens there, I'll be bewildered.

And yes, I realise you probably know what's going to happen!

.ak

Cool, when I see lots of spoiler tags I know the episode is gonna be interesting! On my way home to watch it now

Buer

.ak wrote: »

Cool, when I see lots of spoiler tags I know the episode is gonna be interesting! On my way home to watch it now

We just like spoiler tags, is all.

Go suck a lemon, .ak

[Deleted User]

Buer wrote: »

Hopefully, next week gives a little development on the situation at King's Landing and Winterfell. I think we can probably park the situations in Dorne and Meereen for this season. I'd like to gain a little closure on the Bravos situation, though. Too much time invested. If nothing happens there, I'll be bewildered.

And yes, I realise you probably know what's going to happen!

I'm not a book reader but am I right in saying that the show is more or less upto speed with large parts of the book now or is there much between them?

As best as I can tell - the main story pieces that really need to be addressed in the last episode are:

1. Stannis / Winterfel / Sansa / Brienne / Boltons. I'm presuming this is all going to come together in some way as they are all more or less converging on the same place.

2. Kings Landing. I imagine whatever is going to happen to Cersei / Margery / Loras will get some closure next week, would be odd to have no conclusion here.

3. Arya is going to either kill or be killed by Meryn Trant. I'm thinking she will kill him but what the consequences of this will be I don't know. I was saying to the misses that the sword she stuck in the rocks earlier in the season may be making a reappearance.

4. Mereen - I presume there will be some tidying up here as to the current state of play is a little all over the place

Is next week going to be a long episode? Quite a bit to get through otherwise.

irishbucsfan

Buer wrote: »

We just like spoiler tags, is all.
Go suck a lemon, .ak

I havent seen this one yet but I took a risk on that spoiler, glad I did.

molloyjh

Buer wrote: »

It was but we knew that was coming a couple of weeks ago. I felt it was just weak in so far that the season has been building to big moments and they haven't really delivered. While the white walkers were cool last week, it wasn't a moment that really catches you off guard. One of the great things about the show is that it can really take you by surprise but this season hasn't managed that, I think, with the arrest of Cersei being the one notable exception to my mind.

The second to last episode doesn't need to be one of great drama and shock according to any formula but the show's popularity is partly based in that element and it hasn't delivered in that aspect this season. I've loved the intrigue and build up, particularly in the middle few episodes but even the tension that was built in those episodes has melted away. I think they've really got the pacing wrong this season, dedicating far too much to certain aspects.
I've enjoyed it overall as a season but undoubtedly the weakest thus far, to my mind. Very disjointed. There are entire sequences that I look back on and think they were nothing more than filler.

I said all that a couple of weeks ago and it's still every bit as true. Next week needs to really bring a lot of things together and do it well. Otherwise this season will have been very disappointing.

Although that said the scene where Stannis kills his daughter was fairly harrowing. But as I said to the wife as the daughter was being tied to the pyre I might have had that inner hope that Stannis would have come to his senses a couple of seasons ago. At this stage it's inevitable though that the horrible thing that is being dangled in front of us will actually happen.

awec

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not a book reader but am I right in saying that the show is more or less upto speed with large parts of the book now or is there much between them?

It varies across the different storylines. Some are ahead more than others and some have stuck more closely than others. One storyline in particular has had an absolute load of it completely left out and they have sort of changed how things happen so it's both ahead of and in-line with the book.

One particular storyline (and set of characters) in the book hasn't featured in the series yet at all.

A lot of the variations between books and TV have been because they have left characters out of the TV show and had to write their parts into other characters instead.

IMO the storylines that have stuck closest are The Wall and Braavos.

P_1

Bleedin 'ek the last few posts look like something out of a FOI request fulfilled by the CIA

Wang King

And I'm still squinting and not clicking anything you shower of barstewards!

Podge_irl

I think we're all missing the main point here.

I'm now 30 and my life is over.

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

It varies across the different storylines. Some are ahead more than others and some have stuck more closely than others. One storyline in particular has had an absolute load of it completely left out and they have sort of changed how things happen so it's both ahead of and in-line with the book.

One particular storyline (and set of characters) in the book hasn't featured in the series yet at all.

A lot of the variations between books and TV have been because they have left characters out of the TV show and had to write their parts into other characters instead.

IMO the storylines that have stuck closest are The Wall and Braavos.

I wouldn't be surprised if the big thing coming next week, perhaps even the closing scene, might be the appearance of the character we discussed in spoilers before. I daren't even mention that character in spoilers here, in case someone accidentally reads it because it would be coming out of absolutely nowhere and I just get this feeling it's exactly the sort of thing they'd like to end the series with!

Just watched that episode, I agree the final scenes were a little disappointing, I wish they'd been a bit better at hiding their inability to do the action scenes, some smarter cinematography and some better dialogue would have gotten so much more mileage out of the scene. If Ridley Scott could do it with Gladiator there's no excuse for these chaps!

dregin

Hit 43 degrees here today. Dry wind outside was like standing in front of a massive hair dryer. No craic whatsoever!

mfceiling

dregin wrote: »

Hit 43 degrees here today. Dry wind outside was like standing in front of a massive hair dryer. No craic whatsoever!

Yeah...and the weather here in Ireland for June as just announced on the radio there... "slight ground frost this morning followed by highs of 12 to 15 degrees". That's June folks. Frost ffs.

Swiwi.

dregin wrote: »

Hit 43 degrees here today. Dry wind outside was like standing in front of a massive hair dryer. No craic whatsoever!

Your location still says Dublin dregin, so I assume you mean 43 degrees fahrenheit :P

dregin

Dublin, Pleasanton, CA actually

dregin

mfceiling wrote: »

Yeah...and the weather here in Ireland for June as just announced on the radio there... "slight ground frost this morning followed by highs of 12 to 15 degrees". That's June folks. Frost ffs.

To be fair, early morning frost has always been pretty common during the Summer with the lack of clouds for insulation during the night.

[Deleted User]

dregin wrote: »

Hit 43 degrees here today. Dry wind outside was like standing in front of a massive hair dryer. No craic whatsoever!

I think I'd take our weather tbh.

Stheno

Interested Observer wrote: »

I think I'd take our weather tbh.

Me too. Spent time working in Malta in that heat it was unpleasant

Buer

We really don't handle the heat well. I think mid-high twenties is ideal for us but not long term. If we could be guaranteed that for 3-4 weeks a year, I'd be pretty happy.

I always laugh when I hear the commentators every year at Wimbledon complain of the bad British summers. They're perfect, to my mind. The next few days for London are forecast to be 20C, 23C, 27C and 22C. Perfect for going to work with no jacket or sitting out with a drink in the evening.