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S05E08 - Hardhome - Have READ The Books

Also Starring LeVar Burton

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Birneybau

A very interesting read:

http://www.avclub.com/article/last-nights-game-thrones-engendered-some-serious-s-220180

theballz

Anyone get the feeling that Varys is going to make his way to Meeren with Aegon and the Gold company?

Iwasfrozen

theballz wrote: »

Anyone get the feeling that Varys is going to make his way to Meeren with Aegon and the Gold company?

I sure hope so. fAegon has been a big missing element in the show so far along with lady Stoneheart.

theteal

Bambi wrote: »

Her first job for the faceless god was one of the memorable parts of the book, and now it looks like its relegated to a dodgy oyster

I actually got annoyed that they signposted that change. I do hope I'm wrong though as how its done in the book is just class.

Anyway, no other complaints, that was just good telly.

Son0vagun

The fact that Tyrion hasn't been cursed as a Kinslayer proves he never killed any kin.

Taboola

What a truly epic episode. I was left gobsmacked for pretty much all of the last 20mins.

Up there as one of the best episodes ever. The episodes with the Red Wedding and the Battle Of Blackwater didn't shock me as I knew what was going to happen but my god, I was at the edge of my seat mumbling 'fckking hell' during that episode. The White Walkers are total bad asses! I too had hoped there was something 'not so evil' about them but that scene has completely debunked that theory.

Loved the scenes with Dany and Tyrion as well. Not sure what Ser Friendzone's game is. Surely when Dany see's him back in the fighting pits after disobeying her a second time she'll kill him? Or maybe since he's got the greyscale and he knows he's going to die he doesn't care.

Is it just me or does anyone else really not like the other girl in the House of Black & White?

PopePalpatine

letowski wrote: »

And 'ice spiders as big as hounds'.

Just wait for the ice spider-babies. :pac:

Mr Freeze

Washington Irving wrote: »

It's manufactured using dragonfire. It can be forged without it, like we saw with Ice being melted down and made into Widow's Wail and Oathkeeper.

Was thinking the same. What if Ice was dragon forged and could kill an Other, but after melting it down and using normal Westeros forging to make 2 more swords, those 2 swords might have lost what ever magical or dragonfire properties that might make them useful against the others.

IK09

I think a list of everyone who has a valyrian steel sword. It may give some weight to whether they will live or not.

Mickeroo

Needle isn't Valyrian steel is it?

Edit: Who directed last night's episode btw? The tracking shot of Jon running through the battle hacking down wights had me wondering was it Neil Marshall again.

Mr Freeze

IK09 wrote: »

I think a list of everyone who has a valyrian steel sword. It may give some weight to whether they will live or not.

I think there is feck all.

House Lannister had one, but one of the Lannister ancestors sailed off with it and never returned, others sailed after him looking for him or the sword, they never came back either. Essos/Asshai direction they went. But thats the book.

They will probably pull Valyrian swords from everywhere in the show, or start forging them again inexplicably.

Mr Freeze

Mickeroo wrote: »

Needle isn't Valyrian steel is it?

Edit: Who directed last night's episode btw? The tracking shot of Jon running through the battle hacking down wights had me wondering was it Neil Marshall again.

Same guy who did the Red Wedding. Can't think of this name, could google it I suppose..But I am lazy.

Edit, I am wrong about the red wedding.
Miguel Sapochnik
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0764601/?ref_=ttfc_fc_dr1

ibarelycare

Mickeroo wrote: »

Needle isn't Valyrian steel is it?

Edit: Who directed last night's episode btw? The tracking shot of Jon running through the battle hacking down wights had me wondering was it Neil Marshall again.

Awesome shot

MrWalsh

Kit Harrington has his detractors but he has developed fantastic swordsmanship skills over the series.

I like him as an actor as well - at least, I like him as Jon Snow.

Mickeroo

He's really coming into his own in fairness, there's going to be a meltdown from non-readers when they see what happens next (at first anyway).

Jofspring

Ya he is very good as Jon Snow in fairness. Seems to have the personality of a plank of wood in real life though.

Tipsy McSwagger

That last 20mins was pure cinema spectacle but in a TV show, wow.

Mr Freeze

Mickeroo wrote: »

He's really coming into his own in fairness, there's going to be a meltdown from non-readers when they see what happens next (at first anyway).

Not as big as the meltdown I will have if Ramsey kills Stannis next week with his 20 men.

Mickeroo

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Not as big as the meltdown I will have if Ramsey kills Stannis next week with his 20 men.

Surely that won't happen

Ramsey is due a bit of comeuppance.

Mr Freeze

Mickeroo wrote: »

Surely that won't happen Ramsey is due a bit of comeuppance.

Would love if Ramsay gets killed, do not see it happening though.

Brienne has to do something this season, hopefully she follows the 20 men and kills Ramsay.

Worst possible scenario is Stannis being killed.

Second worst and most likely is Brienne helping Sansa & Theon escape and in the mean time Ramsay either kidnaps or kills Shireen, somehow gets away with Stannis' sword, and then we end up getting the pink letter in ep 10.

Well the 2nd is entertaining there, seeing Shireen get killed by Ramsay will be extremely unpleasant.

The Master

Liam Cunningham said in an interview recently

He was asked point-blank if Season 5 had any moments more shocking than the Red Wedding. His answer:

I would think so, yes. It’s towards the end of the season, and when I got the scripts, when I got to this particular section, I went: ‘You’ve gotta be kidding me.’”

Ramsey and his 20 men killing Shireen/Stannis perhaps?

Mr Freeze

The Master wrote: »

Ramsey and his 20 men killing Shireen/Stannis perhaps?

Well f**k! :mad:

MrWalsh

Ramsay kidnaps Shireen, Stannis marches on Winterfell, Brienne kills Stannis, Theon helps Sansa, Yara appears and kills Ramsay and rescues Theon/Sansa - and Brienne gallops off with Sansa. Roose is left with Shireen.

Tiddlypeeps

The Master wrote: »

Liam Cunningham said in an interview recently

Ramsey and his 20 men killing Shireen/Stannis perhaps?

That's gotta be referencing Jon getting stabbed. That's gonna have a much bigger impact than the red wedding, people like Jon a lot more and he is very much seen by non book readers as one of the safe characters along with Danny and Tyrion.

Mickeroo

MrWalsh wrote: »

Ramsay kidnaps Shireen, Stannis marches on Winterfell, Brienne kills Stannis, Theon helps Sansa, Yara appears and kills Ramsay and rescues Theon/Sansa - and Brienne gallops off with Sansa. Roose is left with Shireen.

I reckon however all this plays out Sansa will send Brienne to find Rickon.

Mr Freeze

MrWalsh wrote: »

Ramsay kidnaps Shireen, Stannis marches on Winterfell, Brienne kills Stannis, Theon helps Sansa, Yara appears and kills Ramsay and rescues Theon/Sansa - and Brienne gallops off with Sansa. Roose is left with Shireen.

If it plays out like this, I will be gutted.

ThunbergsAreGo

Mickeroo wrote: »

He's really coming into his own in fairness, there's going to be a meltdown from non-readers when they see what happens next (at first anyway).

My girlfriend said last night

"I know Jon Snow wont die, he will be there to the end"

Very hard not to laugh

MrWalsh

Mickeroo wrote: »

I reckon however all this plays out Sansa will send Brienne to find Rickon.

Oh yes, thats a good story arc for Brienne.

MrWalsh

Mr Freeze wrote: »

If it plays out like this, I will be gutted.

Which bit guts you?

Dyr

ibarelycare wrote: »

Awesome shot

I thought that was one of the lowlights. Not a big fan of the errol flynn nonsense that fight choreographers can't seem to resist as soon as swords are involved