dellas1979 wrote: » I was only thinking this the other day OP when a(nother) cyclist whizzed over a pedestrian crossing, while I moved on (didnt stop to check if it was safe. More over bikes are not supposed to be used on pedestrian crossings). Sadly, there was actually a cyclist killed there 2 years ago, doing the exact same thing. Its getting to the point of ridiculousness. The thing is, they are the ones acting the idiot, yet if I hit them, Im the one prosecuted. This particularly bad spot is near the uni in Limerick, so I would think a lot are probably erasmus students pedding around the place.
Jimoslimos wrote: » I cycle. In short. Cyclist messes up - cyclist injured/dead dead/injured
beauf wrote: » http://dublinobserver.com/2010/10/cycle-lane-highlights-in-dublin/http://irishcycle.com/2012/08/24/cycling-against-traffic-legally/ No excuse for cycling dangerously. Often to get around the one way system, or to get on off cycle paths, you have to cross footpaths, due to the poor design and layout.
mojesius wrote: » I frequently get 'tutted' at by other cyclists behind me for stopping at a red light. No, the green man doesn't include you. Your light is still red.Also, wearing headphones while cycling should be banned. Please don't pull in front of me at the lights when I recently overtook you. You're clearly cycling at a slower pace than I am. I should have gone to to ranting and raving forum but fcuk it
222233 wrote: » I really don't care being honest, i have an opinion and that is that. My opinion I don't have to be right but thats how I happen to feel
dellas1979 wrote: » Its getting to the point of ridiculousness. The thing is, they are the ones acting the idiot, yet if I hit them, Im the one prosecuted.
dxhound2005 wrote: » I think you should bring your very erudite opinions to the Cycling Forum, where no doubt they will be welcomed.http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=410
222233 wrote: » I still stand to my point if I am answerable in court or can be issued with penalty points as a driver, then so should cyclists, they too need to able to be punished and definitely need insurance !!
222233 wrote: » Insurance for cyclists is not needed???? So its okay for them to scrape the side of my car and cycle off or its okay for them to sue me because they fell off their bike and have no insurance to cover injuries?
222233 wrote: » Have seen it happen, where they don't take there feet out of those special pedal things and fall in traffic, what if its my car that hits them.
222233 wrote: » Most of the time they are hit through their own fault..
222233 wrote: » That won't be happening I drive within my capabilities and I obey the rules of the road, i just don't park in small parking spaces is all!
Jawgap wrote: » Shouldn't be too long before you lose your licence then;)
222233 wrote: » Im a terrible driver, will be the first to admit that and for that reason I travel slow. But cyclists...
Grandpa Hassan wrote: » In your opinion. Wouldn't necessarily be mine. Speeding by cars plays a big part, or overtaking too tight to them, or drifting into the cycle lane and squeezing them against the kerb (buses are bad for doing this) There is fault on both sides, even if you have an agenda and don't want to admit that drivers are not perfect
Jawgap wrote: » If your car hits them then you're potentially liable. If they fail to unclip and fall into your car then you are not liable and they are potentially liable for any damage caused. We're not talking rocket science here:D
Jawgap wrote: » No, not ok to damage property and cycle off but if they cycle off and you get no details it's immaterial whether they have insurance or not. If you get them you can still sue and they still have to pay if found liable. If they fell off their bike and you're not liable why would you be paying over anything
Jawgap wrote: » Yeah, not needed and not going to happen.....
222233 wrote: » Seeing as we provide cycle lanes, why aren't cyclists using these lanes paying taxes for the money it cost to make them, I'm not allowed drive in them?
Brussels Sprout wrote: » I'm both a cyclist and a motorist and my #1 pet peeve on the roads is people breaking red lights. The only difference seems to be that some cyclists cycle through red lights at any time as opposed to some motorists who drive through them in the second or two after they have just switched to red. But yeah I'd love to see more people being pulled up on this as it's both selfish and dangerous.
222233 wrote: » But I don't mind paying for my water I have always had to pay for my water! i pay massive tax at work and car tax so irrespective of whether its paying for cycle lanes or not it should be coming out of a specific paid by cyclist tax fund.
Clearlier wrote: » I think that it's more likely to do with personal experience. As I hinted at in my earlier post when I cycle I see drivers do dumb things on pretty much every journey I make but I rarely see cyclists do anything wrong. When I drive I see cyclists doing dumb thing all over the place but rarely see cars do much wrong. The above is because when I cycle I move at a similar speed to most cyclists so I don't encounter very many and when I drive I move at the speed of the traffic around me so I only see the behaviour of a few drivers. I doubt that my experience is unique hence why so many drivers think that most cyclists are bad and many cyclists think that most drivers are bad. Edit to add that most (adult) cyclists are drivers and have some appreciation of the stupid things that cyclists do but most driver are not cyclists and have a limited appreciation of the dumb things that drivers do.
anncoates wrote: » What about righteous emissions? The exchequer could make millions of euro from cyclists.
222233 wrote: » I was recently driving through a busy area at peak traffic time, one of the lanes allows for a continuous amber (yield and go if clear etc). I was coming off of my turn, I had a green light and a cyclist literally went straight through the amber light meaning I was inches from knocking him off his bike, he then preceded to make some angry, strange hand movements... I have also noticed cyclists running red lights, veering in and out of cars and leaning on cars. NOTHING MAKES ME MORE ANGRY.
222233 wrote: » Cyclists should have to sit a driving test, forget a theory test and they should be prosecuted with fines/penalty points for breaking the rules of the road.
222233 wrote: » Sorry if I am repeating but it infuriates me that if I knock someone down for their own stupidity I will be prosecutable and have to live with that guilt.
IrishHomer wrote: » What about pedestrians?
Why I hate pedestrians You know what I hate? Pedestrians. That self-satisfied, striding, boot-bedecked bunch of scum. Is it just me, or does the country suddenly seem to be full of them? I've never tried walking anywhere myself -- why would I? I'm a successful adult -- but it seems I can hardly travel down the street these days without one of them stepping off the pavement in front of me without looking, their face set in a holier-than-thou expression as they jump out of the way of my car in a burst of expletives. Something clearly needs to be done, and it's good that the government are starting to realise this. The thing is, it's not just that pedestrians are all smug and annoying when they bang on about "health" and "pollution". That's sickening enough, but if their smugness was the only problem I could just ignore them - after all, they and their silly 'shoes' flash past quick enough when I get going, and their smugness can't penetrate my car's tinted windows. But the thing is there's more to it than that, because have you noticed that even though pedestrians walk millions of miles on our road system every single day, they contribute nothing at all to the cost of that road system? They have thousands and thousands of miles of dedicated pedestrian-only travel routes -- pavements, they're called, or sidewalks if you're that way inclined -- which they don't pay a penny for! Whilst honest motorists are taxed left, right and centre, they don't pay anything at all for all these facilities they enjoy. It beggars belief. And recently, of course, it's got worse. As I'm driving up the street I constantly come across pedestrians walking across my part of the road to get from one of these pavements to another. I mean, what the hell...? Do they want the shirt off my back as well? They've been given vast tracts of pedestrian-only routes, where I'm certainly not allowed to drive, but apparently this isn't enough for them. Oh no, they want to keep encroaching into my space as well. Sure, we've all heard these walking zealots who say that it's because the 'pavements' don't form a joined-up network, meaning they can't walk to where they want to go without having to step onto the road from time to time. Aw, bless their little hearts. To pedestrians I say this: get off my part of the road. If you walk there when I'm coming along then I'll happily run you down, that's all. In the long term there's clearly only one solution to all this. If pedestrians want to walk on our streets, which we pay for with all our driving taxes, then they need to pay their share and take their part of the responsibility. Anybody who walks anywhere should undergo training, should have to pay an annual tax towards the facilities they enjoy, should display a license plate so they can be identified, and should each be made to carry insurance in case they are ever involved in any accidents. Until then, they can sod off back to Shoeville or wherever it is they go when they aren't freeloading off the rest of us.
mikemac1 wrote: » Motor tax doesn't pay for roads. It comes from central funds. The kid paying vat on a can on coke pays for roads same as you. And if you believe you pay more because you have a tax disc on your windscreen well that money is paying for Irish Water these days
