Captain Chaos wrote: » Then why are there cycle lanes on such roads all over Dublin. Right beside me is a road with a 60kps limit with a cycle lane wide enough for a bus, it's as wide as the driving lane, and they pay no road tax.
tipparetops wrote: » Cyclists have no business on roads where the speed limit is over 50kph.
tipparetops wrote: » And any parent who let's their child cycle on their own, should have social services at the door.
mojesius wrote: » Please don't pull in front of me at the lights when I recently overtook you. You're clearly cycling at a slower pace than I am.
tipparetops wrote: » Cyclists have no business on roads where the speed limit is over 50kph. And any parent who let's their child cycle on their own, should have social services at the door.
RainyDay wrote: » Where is this road with the gigantic cycle lane?
Captain Chaos wrote: » The Howth Road from Raheny village, all the way to the sea front. It's 50/50 for bikes and cars all the way. Buses have to use part of the lane as they can't fit in the driving lane alone.
namloc1980 wrote: » Drivers don't pay road tax either.
Captain Chaos wrote: » Yes they do it's just not called what it's used for, it's indirect taxation that's creamed off as needed.
machiavellianme wrote: » So you would have cyclists, who are often the poorest in society (students, children etc) pay a direct taxation for the upkeep of the roads so that motorists can continue to enjoy them (while only contributing indirectly, if at all, themselves)?
RainyDay wrote: » Motor tax comes nowhere near covering the cost of road infrastructure. Roads are subsidised from general taxation. How did you work out that cyclists are often the poorest? Research from other countries shows cyclists having higher average income than motorists, therefore paying more income tax and consumption taxes.
RainyDay wrote: Nice victim blaming. I don't hear any huge clamour for drivers who kill other road users to be dealt with harshly round here.
RainyDay wrote: » I don't see any bike lines big enough for a bus.https://goo.gl/maps/FU80d Would you like to be more specific, or maybe share a link to a map location?
ThisRegard wrote: » Genuine question, do you have figures to back that up, as I don't see that.
machiavellianme wrote: » Other countries are different to Ireland, particularly in Europe where many capital cities are flat. Look around. It's mostly people under 25 cycling, who typically don't have massive incomes. Sure, there's a few weekend warriors but not likely a significant portion (it's estimated to be less than 10%) of the cycling population. Of course there's those who have availed of the bike to work scheme but how many of those actually bike to work?
Grandpa Hassan wrote: » In fact, us cyclists get a tax break in order to encourage more of us onto our bikes. The 'bike to work' scheme....effectively 40% off a bike, funded by the taxpayer. Thanks drivers!
Saipanne wrote: » Two type of cyclists, in my book. Both easy to spot. 1) The pro. This kind of cyclist obeys the rules of the road. Tends to have a flash bike and all the proper cycling gear. I rarely see this type breaking lights or flying down footpaths. This group forms the minority of cyclists. 2) The amateur. These people behave as if they are in a secret competition to be as reckless as possible. Tend to use those ridiculous looking Dublin Bikes or some piece of **** bone shaker. Often see them tearing down Grafton Street, as if one sudden movement by a child won't cause utter mayhem. These idiots form the majority of cyclists.
tipparetops wrote: » They should have a licence, insurance and tax. If they want to use the roads, they should pay for them. And those pricks who get dressed up at the weekend, they are suffering a mid life crisis. Oddballs.
ArmaniJeanss wrote: » The wonderful news is that no government is going to grant your wish and force cyclists to be licensed or insured, or charge us a fee, or force us into particular lanes in the road or limit our access. The opposite will happen in the next decade, more cycle lanes, cycle routes and greenways, expanded bikeshare schemes, bike priority traffic lights. More and more cyclists on the roads, some whizzing past poor you stuck in traffic, others leisure cyclists meandering along. Its going to be great, so deal with it.
Captain Chaos wrote: » They should be able to be fined, mandatory to carry official national ID to use a bike and enforcement. Caught with no ID, dragged to the nearest station and fined.
moonlighting wrote: » I could be crazy here but i think the future is in cycling not electric cars.
leftfinger wrote: » ive been hit by a car twice in my life. the first was many years ago as a child i was crossing the road on a green mad and a car struck me lucky they were not able to slow down enough in time to only really knock me onto the ground. i was able to get up and walk away from it. the second time only occurred a few weeks ago while cycling i was clipped by a wing mirror or a car the car stopped for a moment and then just went on his/her way i was also again luckily to have walked away from that but my bike was damaged and cost me 200 euro to fix. ive never been hot by a cyclist maybe its different here in limerick but i hardly ever see someone cycling on the path. i do see them running lights and cycling down the wrong side of the road alright. but i also see cars speeding through pedestrian crossings in the mornings so they dont have to wait while the lollipop lady is letting the kids cross.
i can think of ways that would help with these problems 1. better education for everyone 2. mandatory driving retest every 10 years or less 3. more garda on the street to enforce the laws a theory test for cyclists what a silly idea when are you going to give people the test when they are 7 years old?
hatrickpatrick wrote: » In Dublin city centre it's the exact opposite. Cars rarely do blatantly dangerous rule breaking but most cyclists act as if pedestrian lights don't exist at all and footpaths are just part of the road. Particularly around the quays.
Why should someone who's 7 years old be allowed to cycle on the roads, when they're legitimately too young to drive? There's a reason we have age limits for things like that.
