The_Valeyard wrote: » No there isn't. No one wants a major war. Most countries are deeply interconnected economically and tradewise. Not to mention cultural links and descendents etc. This blip is temporary insanity that is curable through honest negotiations and compromise.
dxhound2005 wrote: » You are probably as far away from South Ossetia as you are from Ireland. A little local difficulty in Central Europe is par for the course and hardly any indicator of Global Conflict Number Three.http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/2000/index.html One thing guaranteed, that map will not stay the same. It never has in the past.
AndonHandon wrote: » France would just surrender.
darkpagandeath wrote: » Why would the UK goto war with the Republic ?
The_Valeyard wrote: » Sure if worst comes to happen, I hear Vault 101 is pretty okay. Vaults, designed and built by Vault-Tec!
Chinese State Paper Warns "War Will Be Inevitable" Unless U.S. Stops Meddling In Territorial Dispute at least China was mercifully allowed to stay out of the fray between the Cold War enemies. This all changed this month when first the Pentagon's annual report to Congress this month cast China as a threat to regional and international peace and stability, followed several weeks ago when, with China aggressively encroaching into territories in the South China Sea claimed by US allies in the region such as Philippines, Vietnam and Japan, the US decided to get involved in yet another regional spat that does not directly involve it, and started making loud noises about China's territorial expansion over the commodity-reach area. China promptly relatiated by threatening a US spy plane during a routine overflight, while immediately thereafter the US retaliated at China's escalation, and warned that building sea "sandcastles" could "lead to conflict." Far from shutting China up, earlier today China said it had lodged a complaint with the United States over a U.S. spy plane that flew over parts of the disputed South China Sea in a diplomatic row that has fuelled tension between the world's two largest economies. Quoted by Reuters, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said on Monday China had lodged a complaint and that it opposed "provocative behaviour" by the United States. "We urge the U.S. to correct its error, remain rational and stop all irresponsible words and deeds," she said. "Freedom of navigation and overflight by no means mean that foreign countries' warships and military aircraft can ignore the legitimate rights of other countries as well as the safety of aviation and navigation." China had noted “ear-piercing voices” from many in the U.S. about China’s construction on the islands and reefs. In other words, China just imposed an effective "no fly zone" for US spy planes, a dramatic shift from its recent posture when it tolerated and turned a blind eye to US spy plane overflights. Going forward, the US has been explicitly warned not to fly over China or risk the..... ................. A war between the United States and China is “inevitable” unless Washington stops demanding Beijing halt its construction projects in the South China Sea, a Chinese state-owned newspaper warns.“If the United States’ bottom line is that China has to halt its activities, then a US-China war is inevitable in the South China Sea,” The Global Times, an influential newspaper owned by the ruling Communist Party’s official newspaper the People’s Daily, said in an editorial Monday.“We do not want a military conflict with the United States, but if it were to come, we have to accept it,” said The Global Times, which is among China’s most nationalist newspapers. Beijing last week said it was “strongly dissatisfied” after a US spy plane defied multiple warnings by the Chinese navy and flew over the Fiery Cross Reef, where China is reportedly building an airfield and other installations. “The intensity of the conflict will be higher than what people usually think of as ‘friction’,” it warned. The paper also asserted that China was determined to finish its construction work in the South China Sea, calling it Beijing’s “most important bottom line.”
circadian wrote: » If the UK was involved then it wouldn't be a civil war.
circadian wrote: » Make sure your Pipboy is in good nick.
irishlad12345 wrote: » the chinese are clever the have territorial claims over the spratley islands (i think thats what there called ) so what there doing is literally building islands making the islands the build there territory and according to UN law the automatically get a certain amount of the sea clever c**ts
kylith wrote: » I don't think we have to worry too much about Russia. It's the middle east that concerns me. The entire region is going to hell and I think it's only a matter of time before it kicks off over there. Being rather callous; as long as it stays over there I'd be happy to let them kick the sht out of each other, and we can help the refugees. Unfortunately there's a trend these days for getting involved in other people's wars. On the other hand maybe there's something to be said for apologising to the civilian casualties in advance and bombing ISIS strongholds flat because if they came out on top in a Middle Eastern war I don't think they'd be happy with letting the West live and let live.
KomradeBishop wrote: » The west created ISIS - given that they have risen from the indigenous population, bombing them and the resulting civilian casualties, will just flood their ranks with new recruits. We're going to have to live with them, and once they successfully establish a state (only a matter of time now), we're going to have to use diplomacy rather than bombs - unless the west want to keep on murdering civilians causing 'collateral damage' in the ME perpetually.
darkpagandeath wrote: » Yeah lets just forget about militants from 80 odd countries many countries created ISIS not only the west. It has a lot to do with the region it's self. Always a good crutch to blame the west for all the i'll in that area.
WakeUp wrote: » Eisenhower had it right when he talked about the lessons learned after world war 2. peace can only be maintained if the big boys work together and respect each others interests. this isnt the case which is evident in numerous situations. on its current trajectory some sort of conflict/war is unfortunately almost inevitable unless things change.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-25/war-will-be-inevitable-unless-us-stops-meddling-terrotorial-dispute-chinese-state-ne?
KomradeBishop wrote: » And why is the region itself a mess? Got anything to do with 'the west'...? You don't invade and continually blow the shít out of other peoples countries (and give weapons/funding for others to do the same) without any blowback.
darkpagandeath wrote: That's kind of my point, Put it this way why would people in the Republic wage war with each other ? I think you were alluding to the north but being a foreign country it would not be a civil war.
ComfortKid wrote: » The rich v the poor. Government supporters against people who are fed up of austerity. More of a revolution than a civil war.
darkpagandeath wrote: » Oh so the region was fine before the west got involved now ? So it's all the west's fault these people hate each other ok.
Grayson wrote: » But to be fair....China would have already invaded taiwan were it not for US forces in the area and US support in the form of arms sales.
WakeUp wrote: » yeah true they probably would have. China has maybe two options now with Taiwan the military option or just wash their hands of the place. any attempts by the Chinese to bring about unification through rapprochement or some system akin to the set up in Hong Kong is doomed to failure Taiwanese wont go for that. no invasion would be possible without a massive amphibious assault and a sh1t load of troops on the ground and all the stuff you have to do before hand for that to work. even just assembling the invasion force itself takes time and would give the US and Japanese time to figure out what was afoot and counter it which might compel the Chinese should they go ahead with an invasion to attack or destroy any US/Japanese forces capable of getting in the way. that would include US military bases. ifs and buts though any Chinese invasion of Taiwan would be a massive challenge on their part and not straight forward at all.
darkpagandeath wrote: » That's kind of my point, Put it this way why would people in the Republic wage war with each other ? I think you were alluding to the north but being a foreign country it would not be a civil war.
wakka12 wrote: » The only reason a third world war might start is if some loony militia took control of a powerful nation (wont happen), other than that theres no chance. NO functioning government, even North Korea, will start an all out war. War does nobody any good, there is no winner. I think ww2 made that pretty clear to everyone
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