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Guinness advert Tom Crean factual mistakes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXf93CEI4t0

1. Did you notice the Guinness logo on the pint glasses? That variation of the Guinness logo didn't exist until 1996/7.

2. Guinness draught was launched in 1959. Before that it only came in bottles.

I bet you can't spot the other mistakes in this advert.

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Señor Fancy Pants

Hitchens wrote: »

Tom Crean and Bull McCabe went to Primary School together ......fact!

When they were in high babies, Tom stole Bulls pencil and they never spoke again.

RayCon

Peregrinus wrote: »

A bonus point for anyone who has the skinny on what "IDS" stands for!

Insuppressible Dribbley Sh!ts ..... what do I win ?

Wang King

RayCon wrote: »

Insuppressible Dribbley Sh!ts ..... what do I win ?

A free pint of Guinness

who the fug

RayCon wrote: »

Insuppressible Dribbley Sh!ts ..... what do I win ?

Always wondered if the guy who came up with pebble dashing did so after a feed of Guinness

keano_afc

I wont hear a bad word about Tom Crean. He's a legend.

Sleepy

Peregrinus wrote: »

If you're going to be nitpicky you have to pick your nits correctly. The currently-marketed draught stout - "IDS", we called it in the brewery - was introduced in 1959, but of course draught stout was sold before that. IDS was a modification of the draught that had been sold up to that point. It was designed to be racked into aluminium kegs as opposed to the previously-used wooden casks.

In fact Guinness didn't start bottling beer until the twentieth century; all beer left James's gate in casks, though from about the 1860s local distributors or even individual publicans were licensed to bottle the beer supplied to them and sell it in bottle under the Guinness name (and with a trademarked label supplied by Guinness).

A bonus point for anyone who has the skinny on what "IDS" stands for!

Irish Dry Stout?

HamsterFace

Tony Beetroot wrote: »

Did Tom Crean go to the north pole at all

Didn't even try to go to the south pole. Any aul fool could do that. The Arctic is basically a holiday camp compared to the Antarctic where he went three times.

I'd advise anyone to see the play, fantastic. I'm assuming you have all read the book, if not then that is something you must remedy.

Reiver

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

A wizard did it.

fizzypish

who the fug wrote: »

Always wondered if the guy who came up with pebble dashing did so after a feed of Guinness

Feed of Guinness and peanuts == pebble dashing

Hitchens

Celticfire wrote: »

Tom Crean hated the taste of Guinness , he was more a sherry man.

Actually, he was a Carling man!

SaveOurLyric

Disgusted that I have been conned by that.

Can I sue Guinness for false advertising and be reimbursed for all the Guinness I have bought since then on the basis of that ad ?

Brancott

Too much fawning over him for my liking.
The word legend is thrown around too easily nowadays.
Went on few failed expeditions, I'd be keeping my head down if I were him.
It's like when Belfast folk celebrate a poorly engineered ship that sank first time out.
I'd be keeping that thing on the hush hush.

cajonlardo

An Claidheamh wrote: »

They also forgot to mention also he supported the British during the War of Independence.

Apparently he wasn't brave during that period.

All this "unsung hero" stuff edits that out.

Nor did they mention that the his home was raided by the black and tans. They had him against a wall and aimed rifles at him before deciding not to execute him. At no time did he mention who he was or anything else that may have saved him. He faced loaded rifles in the hands of cold blooded killers and was prepared to die the way he lived.

I couldn't do that in fit. Could you?

Mesrine65

An Claidheamh wrote: »

They also forgot to mention also he supported the British during the War of Independence.

On 25 April 1920 Crean's brother, Cornelius, a policeman in the Royal Irish Constabulary was killed along with another RIC officer in an IRA ambush in Ballinspittle, County Cork.

Maybe his loyalties were coloured by this event?!

Dyr

I don't know which camp is a bigger pain in the face to listen to at this stage

The moaners who dont like tom crean for taking the shilling or the unmitigated fkn bores who express outrage at every opportunity that the country hasn't been named creanland in his honour yet

Maybe he had the good sense to keep a low profile because he had an idea that this would happen

Buck Melanoma

Peregrinus wrote: »

If you're going to be nitpicky you have to pick your nits correctly. The currently-marketed draught stout - "IDS", we called it in the brewery - was introduced in 1959, but of course draught stout was sold before that. IDS was a modification of the draught that had been sold up to that point. It was designed to be racked into aluminium kegs as opposed to the previously-used wooden casks.

In fact Guinness didn't start bottling beer until the twentieth century; all beer left James's gate in casks, though from about the 1860s local distributors or even individual publicans were licensed to bottle the beer supplied to them and sell it in bottle under the Guinness name (and with a trademarked label supplied by Guinness).

A bonus point for anyone who has the skinny on what "IDS" stands for!

I Dislike Stout ?
Irish Draught Stout?

Peregrinus

Buck Melanoma wrote: »

I Dislike Stout ?
Irish Draught Stout?

You're getting very warm.

The party line is that it stands for "Irish Draught Stout". In fact, though, when they started developing the product it was called "Instant Draught Stout", and IDS was the abbreviation. It was only when they thought about marketing that they realised that "instant" didn't exactly suggest a premium product, so they came up with "Irish Draught Stout" as a back-formation to explain the initialism in a more marketing-friendly way.

Rhys Essien

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

Sure back then anyone could say they did anything - "I'm off to the North Pole Lads"..."ah Grand Tom, sure have a great time.."

Tom heads off for a few months in Bettystown, grows a beard and has pints, wanders back down to Kerry. "Jasus Lads, that North Pole was only massive"..."Well done Tom, have a pint"...."Cheers Lads..them polar bears though, jasus ye'd want to see them..."

Who'd be any the wiser? No-ones gonna ask for go-pro footage and most people wouldn't have known where Leitrim was, let alone the North Pole..

Tom goes around for the next few years regaling people with stories of his adventure. Great success. Maybe he was a big fat fibber...stick that in yer mis-logoed pint....

What kind of utter rubbish am I after reading.

There are great books out about Tom Crean.In them,there are photos of Tom Crean in Antarctica.He was also awarded medals for his expeditions there.

Get the book.Well recommended.

Wang King

Rhys Essien wrote: »

What kind of utter rubbish am I after reading.

There are great books out about Tom Crean.In them,there are photos of Tom Crean in Antarctica.He was also awarded medals for his expeditions there.

Get the book.Well recommended.

All faked photos, his medals were bought in a pawnbrokers in Soho

danrua01

Biggest blunder: there was no YouTube in 1912.

rubadub

Chris___ wrote: »

I bet you can't spot the other mistakes in this advert.

Probably that the 2 part pour gimmickry was not done yet, even if it was on draught back then.

I was surprised guinness would have an ad like that when there is an irish rival called Tom Creans lager.

recylingbin

A lot of stuff here shattering my illusions about Tom Crean. Did he even surf?

Reiver

Mesrine65 wrote: »

On 25 April 1920 Crean's brother, Cornelius, a policeman in the Royal Irish Constabulary was killed along with another RIC officer in an IRA ambush in Ballinspittle, County Cork.

Maybe his loyalties were coloured by this event?!

The War of Independence really was great practice for the Civil War considering how many Irish killed each other.

winston82

Mint Aero wrote: »

You sir are dead wrong. That in the cave was Tom's vision of the future. Just because the stuff in his vision didn't come to fruition until much later doesn't make the ad wrong for it is what Tom saw in his mind.

That was Arthur's vision!

4zn76tysfajdxp

Rhys Essien wrote: »

What kind of utter rubbish am I after reading.

There are great books out about Tom Crean.In them,there are photos of Tom Crean in Antarctica.He was also awarded medals for his expeditions there.

Get the book.Well recommended.

Maybe he can't read.

Duckworth_Luas

The ad shows Irish traditional musicians using guitars.

These did not become popular instruments until much later.

Back in the 1920s it was all kazoos and stylophons.

Massimo Cassagrande

Rhys Essien wrote: »

What kind of utter rubbish am I after reading.

There are great books out about Tom Crean.In them,there are photos of Tom Crean in Antarctica.He was also awarded medals for his expeditions there.

Get the book.Well recommended.

Sounds fascinating..lad chooses crap holiday destination that requires effort and suffering to get there with poor transportation options..two weeks in the Bahamas would be better than a year in that frozen kip.

I preferred the Ads with Rutger Hauer in them.

Massimo Cassagrande

Carolina Unkempt Crayfish wrote: »

Maybe he can't read.

I can't. It's a skill that has always eluded me. Must be great to be able to read. :mad:

myhorse

recylingbin wrote: »

A lot of stuff here shattering my illusions about Tom Crean. Did he even surf?

Debatable but it has been proved that he never walked across Ireland and swam to NY to have a pint (as he was in Kerry why would he have to walk from Dublin???). Lots of holes in the whole story to be honest. I think Guinness have opened a can of worms on this one

crockholm

I am always left breathless at the beauty of nature as one squirts out what appears to be crude oil,but is in fact faeces discoloured by copious amounts of porter.And skidmarks that have to be boiled out of your underpants at close to 200 degrees celsius before they can be safely re-used.

To Arthur!