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S506 - Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken - Have Not Read the Books

Demonique

So our first close up of the new Myrcella

And that ending, ****

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EoghanIRL

Anyone else think Theon will crack and kill Ramsey at some stage or will he die in a different way?
He looked close to breaking point at the end of this episode.

Huntergonzo

I agree with the sentiments here, it hasn't been a great season so far, things are moving too slowly but I think Monday's episode got things moving a bit, especially with the Queen getting arrested, hopefully now they'll build on this, another stalemate episode would be very disappointing.

Mormegil

alchemist33 wrote: »

As described above. But it seems a bit unbelievable that this cult went from nothing to the greatest power in the city in the space of a couple of episodes.

You have to rememebr that months are going by in those couple of episodes though.

Littlefinger has managed to travel the 1000 plus miles to Winterfell and back in those same episodes.

alchemist33

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Just watched episode 5 and 6 there. For me this show is after getting hilariously bad since last season. The pacing is so slow and the mythology is all over the place. However, I am going to stick with it until the end of the season and hope that they give me a reason to come back.

Again this is my own personal opinion, so don't go mad at me!

I agree this season needs to cop itself on. Last year we had Joffrey's death, Tyrion's trial, the head-crushing...er...incident, and the fight on the Wall. These all stood out in the whole of GOT so far as cracking episodes. So far we haven't got anything like them. Granted, three of those I mentioned came in the last half of the series, but we need something to grab onto this time.

SoupyNorman

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Just watched episode 5 and 6 there. For me this show is after getting hilariously bad since last season. The pacing is so slow and the mythology is all over the place. However, I am going to stick with it until the end of the season and hope that they give me a reason to come back.

Again this is my own personal opinion, so don't go mad at me!

No, the very sad thing is you’re correct. I mean, season 3 was quite slow paced but we all realized why after the Red Wedding…it really took people a while to process what had just occurred.

I think a lot of people are ignoring the fact the season is so poor (me included) and hoping that it improves with each passing week. There is a danger that they attempt to wedge too much into the last episodes. I really don’t want to feel deflated when a bit of revenge occurs.

I’m beginning to get disheartened with Dranerys and Sandviper scenes.

All I want is a big ‘WHAT THE FOOK’ moment to tide me over. It’s been a while and the audience are yearning for it.

C’mon lads, give Arya a snub nosed uzi or something.

irishguitarlad

Just watched episode 5 and 6 there. For me this show is after getting hilariously bad since last season. The pacing is so slow and the mythology is all over the place. However, I am going to stick with it until the end of the season and hope that they give me a reason to come back.

Again this is my own personal opinion, so don't go mad at me!

[Deleted User]

Probably one of the more enjoyable episodes this season.

I don't think the Sandsnakes stuff is as bad as people are making out, I think the anti-sandsnakes sentiment is becoming a bit of a circlejerk. I'll reserve judgement about what is going on there until I see it played out.

Poor auld Sansa. Out of the frying pan into the fire, then into the vat of acid, then into the pit of thumb tacs, then dipped in the salt mines. It just keeps getting worse.

Couple of things coming to a head now which should make for an interesting latter half of the season. I think the Tyrion and Jon Snow storylines are the most enjoyable thus far.

wp_rathead

Think what pissed people off was that they showed Sansa to finally grow a spine and get upper hand off Meranda in bath scene..
..then to have her immediately raped after this significant character development was bit of "Ah Jaysus, she back to square one"..

But yeah, the reaction was ridiculously OTT

kingshankly

Asoiaf westeros forum every second poster was like I'm never watching again
The writers should be made accountable for this
Christ almighty some people need to get a reality check

InTheTrees

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Send me on a link to where somebody said 'they're never watching again' as I didnt think they existed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/19/qutting-game-of-thrones-sansa_n_7332964.html

MadYaker

I'm half surprised tyrion was so reluctant to die, whats left for him in this world? If I was him id rather a slit throat of the fate that most likely awaits him in Mereen, getting roasted alive and eaten by dragons...

Degag

J. Marston wrote: »

Wonder if Loras will demand a trial by combat? Loras vs FrankenMountain?

I was actually thinking the same thing myself. Wasn't it Loras that The Mountain nearly kill in season 1 before The Hound stepped in?

IsMiseMyself

I look forward to the episode where Sansa murders (indirectly or otherwise) Ramsay. She has to be going full-metal evil/devious, or else her having another ****ty other half is so pointless.

J. Marston

Wonder if Loras will demand a trial by combat? Loras vs FrankenMountain?

Taylor365

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Poor oul Sansa has been through the ringer and back again. She's probably garnered the most sympathy of any character and rightly so.

I don't know. Her naivety and doormat approach has got her into these scenarios.

I'd have more sympathy for the hound! :pac:

donegal.

in fairness what did people expect this is ramsey we're talking about. Maybe there should have been scented candles and rose petals sprinkled on the bed. I thought the wedding night night would have been much worse, she got of lightly

Huntergonzo

Vojera wrote: »

Yeah! I actually thought it was very restrained by GoT standards and even though it was a tough scene to watch, I thought it was well done. I was even thinking to myself that sometimes the show is a bit OTT and that it was a good sign that they'd learned that not everything has to be graphic in order to have an impact.

Ye I thought it was a very well acted scene aswell, Ramsey really is one of those characters that's never dull, his sadistic nature makes him very unpredictable and I love his calm sinister smile. I thought it was a relatively restrained scene aswell, by GOT standards it could have been a lot more violent, although I'm happy it wasn't.

Of course now we're probably all hoping Reek will intervene but knowing GOT that isn't likely, at least if he doesn't that opens up the possibility of Ramsey getting an even worse faith, possibly when Stannis arrives.

Huntergonzo

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Send me on a link to where somebody said 'they're never watching again' as I didnt think they existed.

Yeah but it's Sansa, not some flea bottom whore (with perfect measurements). Poor oul Sansa has been through the ringer and back again. She's probably garnered the most sympathy of any character and rightly so.

Ye check the Twitter machine or google the reaction if you're not on twitter, you'll see there's plenty of people not overly happy with the ending.

I know it was Sansa but again this is GOT, there's not a lot of hope or justice to be had in Westeros, that's the way it's been since series 1 and isn't likely to change any time soon.

wp_rathead

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Send me on a link to where somebody said 'they're never watching again' as I didnt think they existed.

Twitter and Tumblr went into meltdown

Vojera

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Apparently people's heads getting melted, heads chopped off, people getting burned alive, a previous rape scene, poisonings and tits, gee and cock by the bucket full etc etc were all fine 'BUT YESTERDAY, THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!!!' :-)

Yeah! I actually thought it was very restrained by GoT standards and even though it was a tough scene to watch, I thought it was well done. I was even thinking to myself that sometimes the show is a bit OTT and that it was a good sign that they'd learned that not everything has to be graphic in order to have an impact.

SoupyNorman

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I had to laugh at some of the online reaction to last night's rape scene, I mean first off has nobody told them that this isn't actually real and second off have they never watched any of the previous seasons??? Now I've never been 'offended' or 'outraged' by GOT but I have to laugh at some of the people only coming out now saying that GOT has 'crossed the line' and 'they're never watching again'.

Apparently people's heads getting melted, heads chopped off, people getting burned alive, a previous rape scene, poisonings and tits, gee and cock by the bucket full etc etc were all fine 'BUT YESTERDAY, THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!!!' :-)

Send me on a link to where somebody said 'they're never watching again' as I didnt think they existed.

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Apparently people's heads getting melted, heads chopped off, people getting burned alive, a previous rape scene, poisonings and tits, gee and cock by the bucket full etc etc were all fine 'BUT YESTERDAY, THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!!!' :-)

Yeah but it's Sansa, not some flea bottom whore (with perfect measurements). Poor oul Sansa has been through the ringer and back again. She's probably garnered the most sympathy of any character and rightly so.

RoryMac

alchemist33 wrote: »

I was kinda hoping Sansa would stand up to him e.g. "I am your wife and equal now, a Stark etc etc" and demand his respect, stopping him in his tracks, but alas...

She wouldn't be his equal in the GOT world or in this world until recently.

It was an uncomfortable one to watch but aside from Reek being there I don't think it was one that surprised Sansa too much, her scene with Littlefinger when she was told about the wedding indicated to me she knew what was being asked of her if she returned to Winterfell

Huntergonzo

I had to laugh at some of the online reaction to last night's rape scene, I mean first off has nobody told them that this isn't actually real and second off have they never watched any of the previous seasons??? Now I've never been 'offended' or 'outraged' by GOT but I have to laugh at some of the people only coming out now saying that GOT has 'crossed the line' and 'they're never watching again'.

Apparently people's heads getting melted, heads chopped off, people getting burned alive, a previous rape scene, poisonings and tits, gee and cock by the bucket full etc etc were all fine 'BUT YESTERDAY, THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!!!' :-)

ElvisChrist6

Just watched it. Good episode apart from Dorne but everyone has already gone through that. Thought the game of faces business is done too quickly, that could have been interesting.

It's a bit gas some people saying Ramsey has just become the most evil character considering he did much worse to aul Theon. Ramsey is definitely the most interesting character and story line for me, so I'm hoping it takes a while to kill him off. That and the Sparrow business.

It seems to be trying to make Tyrion and Jorah the next buddy team, but there's something uninteresting about it despite Tyrion being one of my favourite characters

SoupyNorman

alchemist33 wrote: »

I was kinda hoping Sansa would stand up to him e.g. "I am your wife and equal now, a Stark etc etc" and demand his respect, stopping him in his tracks, but alas...

Nah, sure Ramsey would have knocked her block off.

No, she'll be lighting that candle and placing it in the tallest tower soon I'd imagine.

alchemist33

golfball37 wrote: »

Funnily enough I didn't take the last scene to be a rape at all. Its only reading the reaction today that I saw it as such. Bedding ceremonies were common in medieval times and in GOT universe, if the bride acceded to the marriage she acceded to sex with her husband was my understanding.

Tricky business this. Although she had agreed to the marriage (and subsequent sex), the manner of the bedding, especially Reek's presence, had all the trappings of rape. It was certainly an abusive act.

I was kinda hoping Sansa would stand up to him e.g. "I am your wife and equal now, a Stark etc etc" and demand his respect, stopping him in his tracks, but alas...

golfball37

What I liked about it last night was the assumption that [I made anyway] Arya was lying when she said she hated the hound.

Tyrion and Jorah scenes are very good, Jorah is going to be like Russell Crowe re-uniting with his emperor through the medium of fighting.

Funnily enough I didn't take the last scene to be a rape at all. Its only reading the reaction today that I saw it as such. Bedding ceremonies were common in medieval times and in GOT universe, if the bride acceded to the marriage she acceded to sex with her husband was my understanding.

Huntergonzo

alchemist33 wrote: »

As described above. But it seems a bit unbelievable that this cult went from nothing to the greatest power in the city in the space of a couple of episodes.

I've seen people on another forum claim that the TV series has gotten worse as it's diverged from the books and that's beginning to worry me. I thought this episode the best of a fairly dull season so far so hopefully the tension will continue to ramp up for the last four episodes.

We don't know much about the cult though, plus GOT is set in a place where people would have great fear and respect for religion and with the Queen mother's backing they could gain control very quickly. Anyway I tend to be pretty blasé about these things, it is all fictional at the end of the day.

I agree with the second part though, I thought some of the previous few episodes were a little lacking, but the story is moving along better now and tensions are really starting to escalate so the next few episodes should be interesting.

Nuttzz

I think they really are trying to fit in too much into 10 episodes, they really needed to push it to 13 imho

duploelabs

ghogie91 wrote: »

Paintings of him of course. He was head of the Baratheons Kings Guard, Hand of the King and would have attended many functions indifferent kingdoms as you see the Tyrells of Wintergarden in Kings Landing, Starks in Kings Landing, Boltons in Winterfell etc etc. Eligible bachelor aswell of course. Im sure most of the families would have tried to marry him to a daughter of theirs to try make some sort of partnership with the Lannisters and their army

Not to mention appearances in many tournaments