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[Deleted User]

thomond2006 wrote: »

GOT:
No Bran this season so far which is great. Very slow boring pace to his story. The show really misses The Hound IMO for some cheap comedy!

I don't get this decision at all to be honest.

They spent so long with that plot line for it to finally reach its conclusion, then they cut it? I sat through all that ****e for nothing it seems. Suddenly there are religious fanatics that are above the crown? This is the worst season yet imo

.ak

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't get this decision at all to be honest.
They spent so long with that plot line for it to finally reach its conclusion, then they cut it? I sat through all that ****e for nothing it seems. Suddenly there are religious fanatics that are above the crown? This is the worst season yet imo

No, there's a reason. It's just at the moment it's just Bran sitting in that cave learning stuff, that doesn't make good TV. That arc keeps on going though.

Not sure what the issue is with the religious fanatics? The queen is using them in a time when her son is probably too weak stomached to make the choices she wants.

dregin

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/live-updates-gay-cake-row-ashers-bakery-guilty-of-discrimination-against-gay-man-500-damages-awarded-31233797.html

"The defendants are not a religious organisation. They are a business for profit. There are no exceptions available."

It's pretty pathetic that there are exceptions for religious organizations.

sydthebeat

dregin wrote: »

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/live-updates-gay-cake-row-ashers-bakery-guilty-of-discrimination-against-gay-man-500-damages-awarded-31233797.html

It's pretty pathetic that there are exceptions for religious organizations.

religious freedom of expression is a legal right, and one which should be upheld.

but if you offer a business service for money, you do not have the right to discriminate

dregin

sydthebeat wrote: »

religious freedom of discrimination is a legal right, and one which should be upheld.

but if you offer a business service for money, you do not have the right to discriminate

FYP

sydthebeat

im no zealot, i believe people should have the right to make fools off themselves if they wish

Zzippy

Our office is right beside NUIG, it's like Fort Knox here today with the security for Chuck and Camilla. Plenty of overtime for the guards today!

OldRio

sydthebeat wrote: »

religious freedom of expression is a legal right, and one which should be upheld.

but if you offer a business service for money, you do not have the right to discriminate

As an aside. If the same sex marriage referendum goes through they will be plenty of business opportunities for entrepreneurs. Imagine being the top wedding planner for gay marriages. FFS. Big money to be had.
Could you imagine the cakes?
Buy an old Roller and spray it pink.

Money to be made for sure.

b.gud

Zzippy wrote: »

Our office is right beside NUIG, it's like Fort Knox here today with the security for Chuck and Camilla. Plenty of overtime for the guards today!

Drove past the arch on the way to work this morning and it was packed with guards there was groups of 4 of them every 10/15 meters or so. That's the point I remembered my car tax was up

CatFromHue

OldRio wrote: »

As an aside. If the same sex marriage referendum goes through they will be plenty of business opportunities for entrepreneurs. Imagine being the top wedding planner for gay marriages. FFS. Big money to be had.
Could you imagine the cakes?
Buy an old Roller and spray it pink.

Money to be made for sure.

Will there be though?

Civil Partnership has been around for a few years so I'd imagine all of the above was done for those.

I really do think a Yes vote will change very little.

.ak

CatFromHue wrote: »

Will there be though?

Civil Partnership has been around for a few years so I'd imagine all of the above was done for those.

I really do think a Yes vote will change very little.

I was thinking the same... However, you'd imagine there might be a lot of couples holding back until they could get married, and not civil partnerereded(?)

OldRio

CatFromHue wrote: »

Will there be though?

Civil Partnership has been around for a few years so I'd imagine all of the above was done for those.

I really do think a Yes vote will change very little.

Maybe maybe not. But the chances of running a successful 'Gay wedding planner' business from my own county is a bit of a non runner. Not exactly on the Gaydar is Leitrim. Not exacly on anyone's radar for that matter.

Zzippy

OldRio wrote: »

Maybe maybe not. But the chances of running a successful 'Gay wedding planner' business from my own county is a bit of a non runner. Not exactly on the Gaydar is Leitrim. Not exacly on anyone's radar for that matter.

You mean... Leitrim isn't just a made up place??? :eek:

OldRio

Zzippy wrote: »

You mean... Leitrim isn't just a made up place??? :eek:

and it begins............................

dregin

.ak wrote: »

I was thinking the same... However, you'd imagine there might be a lot of couples holding back until they could get married, and not civil partnerereded(?)

I know couples who've gone abroad to get married instead of partnerised.

dregin

Bunsen for lunch. No regrets.

Swiwi.

CatFromHue wrote: »

Will there be though?

Civil Partnership has been around for a few years so I'd imagine all of the above was done for those.

I really do think a Yes vote will change very little.

Might be wrong, but I imagine the vote for many people is more about equality and less about marriage itself. I'd imagine there will be a lot of people voting for equal marriage rights, but who wouldn't actually believe in marriage itself.

molloyjh

Deleted User wrote: »

GOT - Not really a spoiler, but in any case...
Jerome (Bronn) of Robson & Jerome is a great character. I'd watch a programme which was just him and Tyrian tbh.

Ollena Tyrell is fantastic as well I think.

stephen_n

CatFromHue wrote: »

I really do think a Yes vote will change very little.

Not in a business sense but in other senses it will be colossal

Zzippy

Spent my lunch break sitting outside a cafe beside NUIG watching about 20 Gardai marshal a very small group of protesters from Republican Sinn Fein, singing "Go on home British soldiers, go on home". Felt like Simon Cowell - the singing was awful, no choreography, and they didn't even know more than the chorus. 2/10 for effort...

[Deleted User]

Swiwi. wrote: »

Might be wrong, but I imagine the vote for many people is more about equality and less about marriage itself. I'd imagine there will be a lot of people voting for equal marriage rights, but who wouldn't actually believe in marriage itself.

Honestly, I'm voting yes and the voting ratio of people I know, young and old, religious or not is around 9:1 | Yes:No.

Yet I have never seen such a rallying call for a vote. My facebook feed for example is literally nothing but "Yes" campaign shared crap and the odd bit of vitriol towards the No camp. I go out for a run over lunch any everyone has "yes" badges on. It's the most visible referendum I can remember in a long time and everyone seems to be of primarily the same opinion at least in my location / circle of friends.

I've come to the conclusion that it is EXTREMELY fashionable to be a yes voter and there is a great deal of "look at how wonderfully liberal I am" going on. I hadn't planned on going full rant but there you go.

I'm tempted to start posting and sharing "no" content just to watch peoples faces explode.

dregin

I'd say there're a few in FF and FG pretty peeved that so many young people are registering to vote because of the referendum. The next general election may be significantly less comfortable for them with the rise of voters who don't subscribe to party political allegiances like older generations do.

Podge_irl

I can't see most of them voting in the general election, registered or not.

.ak

Zzippy wrote: »

Spent my lunch break sitting outside a cafe beside NUIG watching about 20 Gardai marshal a very small group of protesters from Republican Sinn Fein, singing "Go on home British soldiers, go on home". Felt like Simon Cowell - the singing was awful, no choreography, and they didn't even know more than the chorus. 2/10 for effort...

Nothing worse then a piss poor protest!

Zzippy

.ak wrote: »

Nothing worse then a piss poor protest!

Yeah, not one egg between them, never mind a proper good old-fashioned riot! Baton charge, noggins cracked open, pepper spray, water cannons... I could have made a fortune selling the photos to the red tops. Bah, the youth of today... :rolleyes:

Swiwi.

Deleted User wrote: »

Honestly, I'm voting yes and the voting ratio of people I know, young and old, religious or not is around 9:1 | Yes:No.

Yet I have never seen such a rallying call for a vote. My facebook feed for example is literally nothing but "Yes" campaign shared crap and the odd bit of vitriol towards the No camp. I go out for a run over lunch any everyone has "yes" badges on. It's the most visible referendum I can remember in a long time and everyone seems to be of primarily the same opinion at least in my location / circle of friends.

I've come to the conclusion that it is EXTREMELY fashionable to be a yes voter and there is a great deal of "look at how wonderfully liberal I am" going on. I hadn't planned on going full rant but there you go.

I'm tempted to start posting and sharing "no" content just to watch peoples faces explode.

Well, that's one reason the vote might be quite close I'd imagine. People saying yes and voting no, or saying yes and not voting at all. Given some of the vitriol between the 2 sides, depending on who you are mixing with, saying you are voting yes or no might actually take a bit of courage. Like if you starting wearing a "no" badge, you might have an intriguing day tomorrow...

My pet hate in terms of what's trendy, is using twitter to express condolences, much loved of celebs. If people really, actually cared, they would go down to their newsagent, buy a card, write a note, and send it by post. But then no-one except the recipient would know what you'd done...which totally defeats the purpose of course.

.ak

Deleted User wrote: »

Honestly, I'm voting yes and the voting ratio of people I know, young and old, religious or not is around 9:1 | Yes:No.

Yet I have never seen such a rallying call for a vote. My facebook feed for example is literally nothing but "Yes" campaign shared crap and the odd bit of vitriol towards the No camp. I go out for a run over lunch any everyone has "yes" badges on. It's the most visible referendum I can remember in a long time and everyone seems to be of primarily the same opinion at least in my location / circle of friends.

I've come to the conclusion that it is EXTREMELY fashionable to be a yes voter and there is a great deal of "look at how wonderfully liberal I am" going on. I hadn't planned on going full rant but there you go.

I'm tempted to start posting and sharing "no" content just to watch peoples faces explode.

Hahah, in and and in my circle friends I'd well known as a 'yes voter' without actually advertising the fact. I suppose it comes part n parcel with being young and leaning a little bit to the left, but also our family business is a well known cafe used for the gay theatre and our neighbour is David Norris and has been family friends and we helped with his campaign etc., etc. so we'd be well known in terms of helping the LGBT movement.

However, in the last week, I've been telling people I'm voting no, just to wind them up. It's incredibly easy, and somewhat satisfying.

But in all seriousness, there is a massive movement going on, I think the referendum has come at a time in our history where the current generation is stepping away from its rooted Irishisms. I'm not saying the previous generation isn't liberal thinking but there's certainly a divide there.

For me, it's not so much about the urgency of wanting this to pass, because it's something that shouldn't even require a vote, but rather the possibility of not passing terrifies me. Imagine the headlines, Ireland puts Gay Marriage to a Vote and Rejects It. That's a sobering thought and would, in my opinion, cast us back into the dark ages.

And I have yet to hear one rational, logical argument for the no vote, and I've heard them all and listened to them all.

Wang King

Swiwi. wrote: »

Well, that's one reason the vote might be quite close I'd imagine. People saying yes and voting no, or saying yes and not voting at all. Given some of the vitriol between the 2 sides, depending on who you are mixing with, saying you are voting yes or no might actually take a bit of courage. Like if you starting wearing a "no" badge, you might have an intriguing day tomorrow...

My pet hate in terms of what's trendy, is using twitter to express condolences, much loved of celebs. If people really, actually cared, they would go down to their newsagent, buy a card, write a note, and send it by post. But then no-one except the recipient would know what you'd done...which totally defeats the purpose of course.

D'ere wit the angles now hun. xox

Swiwi.

Wang King wrote: »

D'ere wit the angles now hun. xox

You've lost me there Wang King

Swiwi.

Actually, speaking of referendums, I've not only found out I'll be voting yes or no for a new NZ flag, but also yes or no for a new Swiss national anthem. It really is very exiting times we live in.