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Does murder interest you?

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As a topic, hopefully not as a pastime!

Just watching 10 Rillingron Place on BBC4, the classic film based on Ludovic Kennedys famous book of the John Reginald Christie killings.

My wife finds it a bit macabre, but have bookshelves full of books on murder. Usually historic stuff, Jack the Ripper, the Moors Murders, the Yorkshire Ripper, the William Herbert Wallace mystery, Fabian of the Yard and Charles Walton and the like. Have little interest in current one, no interest in the Graham Dwyer case for example. I like the murders of Victorian or Edwardian England, gaslight, misty streets, the hangmans noose and so on.

Ao you interested in true crime? Any particular crime, such as Jack the Ripper? What do you think draws us in? And any good book recommendations?

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MadDog76

expatinator wrote: »

Let's have a drink

Psycho!!!!!!! :eek:

Saralee4

MadDog76 wrote: »

Psycho!!!!!!! :eek:

:eek: a psycho on boards!! Wait...you mean literally or as a phrase?? :pac:

MadDog76

Saralee4 wrote: »

:eek: a psycho on boards!! Wait...you mean literally or as a phrase?? :pac:

Both!!!!!!

bjork

Sheeeeit wrote: »

Richard Ramirez (The Night Stalker) is a frightening character, he did some awful things. If you watch any of the documentaries on him they'll usually show interviews with him after his arrest, the man just looks evil!

Didn't he live in the hotel Elisa Lam was killed died in ?

McChubbin

I've got a morbid fascination with serial killers due to the fact that my mother used to buy those trashy "Murder Most Foul"-type magazines when I was growing up. To be honest, I'm more intrigued by the psychological side of things- what is it in the human psyche that drives people to commit such shocking acts of violence against another human being?

DEFTLEFTHAND

bjork wrote: »

Didn't he live in the hotel Elisa Lam was killed died in ?

Yes, and he wasn't the only famous serial killer to have lived there. The Cecil has a real dark history which is fascinating to read up on.

NachoBusiness

I usually try not to read about murders when see articles about them, and often turn off the news if it's gruesome. The recent high profile case here I knew nothing about until the day of tbe verdict, to the puzzlement of many who had raised it is as a topic of discussion with me. Watched the Prime Time episode regarding it since however and can now see why so many were wanting to discuss it.

The nine year old French girl killed over the past few days is yet another incomprehensible murder.

Saralee4

McChubbin wrote: »

I've got a morbid fascination with serial killers due to the fact that my mother used to buy those trashy "Murder Most Foul"-type magazines when I was growing up. To be honest, I'm more intrigued by the psychological side of things- what is it in the human psyche that drives people to commit such shocking acts of violence against another human being?

Same with me. My mam bought them and I started reading them. I remember reading about Jeffery dalhmer one day when I was supposed to be studying :-s

Teyla Emmagan

I remember staying overnight with a friend back when I was a teen. The house was full of those serial killer magazines. I remember thinking it was really inappropriate to have them in a house with young kids (my friend had younger siblings!).

Personally I don't get the fascination with serial killers, have no idea why they inspire obsession in people or why you would waste your time reading lurid details about their appalling actions.

garra

Duggy747 wrote: »

Very fascinated by the psychology of a killer, what makes a person do what they do, their history growing, and the depths they will go to, especially the more deranged and psychotic ones who have zero empathy like David Parker Ray or Albert Fish.

This interview covers all bases for you then. It's unusual how someone can get away with it for as long as Richard Kuklinski

bjork

Isreali Keyes - Is very interesting and there is a lot of his interviews taped. He'd fly all over the state and had murder packs prepared.

Adamantium

The details don't interest me especially petty crime if all you have are Paul Williams books and the know the name of every thug and minute detail out there and not a thing to say about Communism, WW2 or the history of violence, human nature, well.....

The details aren't that shocking when you see what we can do to each other and never learn. So I'm interested in the cycles of war and how empires fall and rise over the same damn things again and again.

MadDog76

Adamantium wrote: »

The details don't interest me especially petty crime if all you have are Paul Williams books and the know the name of every thug and minute detail out there and not a thing to say about Communism, WW2 or the history of violence, human nature, well.....

The details aren't that shocking when you see what we can do to each other and never learn. So I'm interested in the cycles of war and how empires fall and rise over the same damn things again and again.

I think war is a separate issue to what's being discussed in this thread though ............ "normal" people will do extraordinary acts (both heroic & savage) during extraordinary times (such as during a war) but what some of us here find interesting is murder in everyday life.

Who are they and why they do the things they do etc.

Mam of 4

bjork wrote: »

Isreali Keyes - Is very interesting and there is a lot of his interviews taped. He'd fly all over the state and had murder packs prepared.

On the CI channel , there's a series on a Saturday night -Serial Killer Profiles. He was the subject on Saturday night just gone, have it recorded, didn't watch it yet though .

Roquentin

the ice man HBO doc is very interesting.

its funny i can list of the top of my head maybe 40 serial killers. i would struggle to name one of their victims. ridgeway had about 70 victims and i cant name a single one.

i think the psychology behind them and also the pattern between them is interesting.

some great videos on youtube. interviews with dahmer and bundy.

one thing that struck me was how articulate and manipulative some of them spoke. richard ramirez was chillingly articulate ( he even quoted shakespeare)

weldoninhio

Roquentin wrote: »

the ice man HBO doc is very interesting.

its funny i can list of the top of my head maybe 40 serial killers. i would struggle to name one of their victims. ridgeway had about 70 victims and i cant name a single one.

i think the psychology behind them and also the pattern between them is interesting.

some great videos on youtube. interviews with dahmer and bundy.

one thing that struck me was how articulate and manipulative some of them spoke. richard ramirez was chillingly articulate ( he even quoted shakespeare)

Philip Carlo's book on Richard Ramirez is chilling. Like Kuklinski, he was allowed into prison to interview him.

Roquentin

weldoninhio wrote: »

Philip Carlo's book on Richard Ramirez is chilling. Like Kuklinski, he was allowed into prison to interview him.

must get it. i love reading these books. read the one on kuklinski and the butcher. chilling.

weldoninhio

Roquentin wrote: »

must get it. i love reading these books. read the one on kuklinski and the butcher. chilling.

He has another called Gaspipe, more a mafia book, but his style of writing is brilliant. On a completely different note, his book The Killer Within, about his battle, and death, due to motor neurone disease is very good too.

AudreyHepburn

I'm a big fan of crime novels and real crime books and shows. I love to watch how a case is solved and find it incredible how the smallest of clues can often be the one that breaks the case.

I also find the psychology behind it fascinating.

fryup

watching the primetime special about the mark nash grangegorman murders...

it was never explained why did he kill those two old women?? did he break into the house with the intention of robbery or did he just have a bloodlust?