DublinWriter wrote: » I always thought vaccines contained only a dead or weak form of a virus that trained the immune system into being able to build resistive anti-bodies. This, from Dr. Jack Wolfson:Be angry with your doctor for being close-minded and not disclosing the ingredients in vaccines (not that they read the package insert anyway). They should tell you about the aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, aborted fetal tissue, animal proteins, polysorbate 80, antibiotics, and other chemicals in the shots. According to the Environmental Working Group, newborns contain over 200 chemicals as detected by cord blood. Maybe your doctor feels a few more chemicals injected into your child won’t be a big deal.
pwurple wrote: » Aluminium... there is more of it contained in daily breastmilk than in any vaccine. Mercury, not present, that's made up. Aborted fetal tissue? Come on now... seriously? Scaremongering, all of it. And that fella has gone strangely silent since the measles outbreak in the US, despite an awful lot of people trying to interview him about his advice to infected children's parents not to vaccinate.
pwurple wrote: » "Aluminium... there is more of it contained in daily breastmilk than in any vaccine.Mercury, not present, that's made up. Aborted fetal tissue? Come on now... seriously? Scaremongering, all of it. And that fella has gone strangely silent since the measles outbreak in the US, despite an awful lot of people trying to interview him about his advice to infected children's parents not to vaccinate." Can i ask why do you think it's made up? That mercury or a derivative(thimerosal) are not in vaccines and that it's "made up".
mulbot wrote: » Can i ask why do you think it's made up? That mercury or a derivative(thimerosal) are not in vaccines and that it's "made up".
Satori Rae wrote: » The "animal proteins" in question are normal Gelatin ( used to a stabilizer to maintain the shelf life of vaccines) and small amounts of egg protein which is used in 2 vaccines the MMR and the flu vaccine.
Neyite wrote: » Sooo...what you are telling me is that now there is ...trifle... in the vaccine??
Orion wrote: » So there's bacon in there too? I fail to see the problem.
pwurple wrote: » Because I read the packaging. It's not there. Has not been for years in peadiatric vaccine. I've also worked in pharmaceutical companies for a decent amount of time, including companies that manufacture vaccines. I've been in FDA audits where they pour over every aspect of a product. From every letter on the box it comes in, to the training of the guy who sweeps the floors, to the air filters in the facilities, so I believe what's on the insert.
mulbot wrote: » So when you say it hasn't been used in years, roughly how many years?
pwurple wrote: » Still boggled at the aborted fetuses one. What kind of sick nutcase even comes up with these?
Satori Rae wrote: » ......... the other Mercury..... well that is not so good you would have to eat a hell of amount for it to attack your nervous system. Oh and as another side note the bad type of Mercury can be found in fish but again you would have to eat tonnes of it .........
She was a very experienced organometallic chemist who took all the precautions in measuring out a tiny amount of dimethylmercury in August 1996. She worked in a fume cupboard, wearing a lab coat, latex gloves and safety glasses. A colleague opened the chilled ampoule of dimethylmercury, and Wetterhahn rapidly pipetted it into the NMR tube, put the remainder into a storage vessel, cleaned up and disposed of the gloves.http://dujs.dartmouth.edu/spring-2008-10th-anniversary-edition/remembering-karen-wetterhahn
gctest50 wrote: » ........unlike its evil twin dimethyl
Satori Rae wrote: » 2001/2002 I think It was proven to be harmless in the first place via CDC & FDA but it was changed because people ( went in arms over it just cause basically) and in fear of people causing more hassle then it was worth and not getting vaccinations done, they took it out. It still is in some flu shots as there has been no found alternative around it. But the Mercury that was in question was ethyl mercury not methyl mercury. Ethyl is harmless and is naturally excreted by the gut and is short lived in our blood streams it actually helps prevent bacteria growth in vaccines which would make us sick and kill us, the other Mercury..... well that is not so good you would have to eat a hell of amount for it to attack your nervous system. Oh and as another side note the bad type of Mercury can be found in fish but again you would have to eat tonnes of it [/COLOR]
pwurple wrote: » Read the leaflet in the packet. Or download it from the manufacturers website. All ingredients are listed. Anything that is not listed, ain't in there. Or, alternatively, worry about all the non-existent ingredients that people continue to invent without even bothering to look at the packet. Still boggled at the aborted fetuses one. What kind of sick nutcase even comes up with these?
seventeen sheep wrote: » I also find it fascinating that people are naive enough to believe such rubbish, that they'll listen to such nutcases, but they won't listen to actual medical advice from professionals!
mulbot wrote: » What's fascinating is that you are posting this without having much information on the subject. It's also not naive to believe something that's true-You are calling substantiated medical information "rubbish", maybe it's you who is naive
mulbot wrote: » No, it wasn't that long ago(2001-2002)
mulbot wrote: » This is strange seeing as you claimed to have a considerable connection to this industry...,Maybe you just missed the fact that cell strains from aborted fetuses have been used to make some vaccines-(although sterile in the vaccine itself). MERUVAX,(a rubella vaccine) VAQTA(hep. A) and M-R-VAX(measles and rubella combo) are just a few vaccines using viruses propagated in either WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts or MRC-5(also human lung fibroblasts). Both WI-38 and MRC-5 are medically recorded as being from human aborted fetuses!!
Jerrica wrote: » *facepalm* Again with the twisting of information and awful misuse of scientific fact. You are correct. HOWEVER, let's look at this with a bit more objectivity. The WI-38 cell line was created in 1966 in the US, the MRC-5 cell line was developed in 1965 in the UK. The former used lung cells from a Caucasian female 3 month old foetus, the latter used lung cells from a 14 week old foetus. Both cell lines are almost sixty years old and originally derived from these two foetuses and have since been used literally millions of times around the world in countless labs for research ranging from vaccines to the discovery of telomeres. The cell culture is used to grow the virus needed to make the vaccine - the virus is grown, killed, taken apart and the appropriate subcomponent is used in the vaccine itself. So the choice is up to the reader, if you want to morally object to the use of these cells then do so, but it's a stretch to say that vaccines contain aborted foetuses. They don't, they contain virus particles grown in the great-great-great-great-great-great-great-.... great-great-grandchild cells of the lung cells taken from one of two foetuses aborted sixty years ago.
