thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » I agree Waterford have talented young lads that could challenge for an all Ireland but as of yet are unproven at senior and I could list many examples top under twenty one talents that never due absence top coaching made from that level to senior Waterford have potential absolutely but to say better cork imo is incorrect overall when yes cork bit go v KK certainly this league and last two years done more than Waterford O Connor imo equal o Neill Fives equal Mcdonnell Moran was great but imo legs are gone and lorcan much better Kearney midfield imo Waterford I don't think have anyone as good him Aidan Walsh full year hurling imo is something Waterford don't have in power pace and athletic ability with experience and youth together Glesson imo outstanding but lehane just good and year or two ahead him Waterford have imo no one near Seamus harnedy for combination work ethic leadership pace ball winning, scoring power and ruthless execution in one player rolled in to one with physical strength Harnedy up there with bonner maher but better scorer and up there with fennelly KK in KK type hurler Harnedy performance any game is worst just good in normally excellent Two goals again club game other night averages least two point minimum any game cork but has ability bang in five points or goal and four etc O mahony is good no where near him imo Keoffe good keeper but Nash more proven and better all rounder Horgan imo when poor is poor on form among best around as you said yourself Cadogan is unreal with good ball Farell and sullivan at very least equal to Dunford who yes Is brilliant Brick is legend but imo not great centre forward or full and cooper if fit can do similar job to him Of course brick better hurlers by far but job both now asked do cooper if fit imo better Cormac Murphy for ucc cork all Ireland intermediate winning team and under twenty one all challenges last year and every league game this year been brilliant so as good as bourke who fine player When it comes down to it imo cork more experienced players and game changers in kearney cadogan Walsh harnedy horgan lehane and lorcan etc that Waterford don't have plus last two meetings cork beaten Waterford last year and then two years before I agree some your point but say Waterford better hurlers imo doesn't stand merit when teams compared overall imo Certainly in future years if coaching is there Waterford could be serious team absolutely but jury is still out on mcgrath
Deise189 wrote: » Word from Tourin is that it's all in Fives head. Could be speculation but it'd be a shame it's true. I`ve heard there getting fairly fed up of him within the club
Mountainlad wrote: » Just to add, Tipp are missing Barrett, Bergin, Callinan, John McGrath and probably Bubbles but also Darren Gleeson. While it might not appear the biggest loss (don't think he's all star material despite the award) he's been in good form recently). Despite being highly rated on club performances, Darragh Egan had a nightmare for Pat Horgans when he stepped in against Cork in the league quarters last year. Might not have much to do, but certainly not positive for Tipp.
Ropaire wrote: » I love when lads start talking up individuals like one player makes a team. If you sent out fifteen Joe Deanes they wouldn't win anything, you need a balanced and well rounded team to win games and name checking lads is futile if they end up marooned in a one man inside forward line. I believe that the sum of those Waterford players can make up alot more than its parts if they're coached right and sent out to play a system that suits them. Cork have flattered to deceive at times and poxed their way to an all ireland thanks to dubious limerick and kilkenny red cards in 2013, I don't know how we lost to them last year with a weaker team than we have now, prob more confidence than anything for both teams. JBM is some man for one man though, I'd kill to have him in charge of us, but honestly the only thing I'd be worried about is we're not scoring many goals at the minute, but neither are Cork. If we can get the Bennetts closer to goals with decent support that would change pretty quick though. Sure we might have a cut off each other in the league yet, but plenty of time between now and June to fine tune a bit. Roll on Sunday!
Hurling man wrote: » TTm u seem very confident in cork coaching ticket I don't think they have covered themselves in glory this year Murphy aside what new players have they discovered ur team who are supposedly way ahead of Waterford were cleaned out by tipp last year in all Ireland Semi final Aidan Walsh if I remember correctly was taken off and I think woodlock and McGrath got the better of midfield battle. Mark Ellis is a good centre back and without him cork seem to struggle but they don't seem to have any alternative I think Jamie Barron is at least as good as Kearney may even have more hurling. The cork full back line now granted have lost one of there best through a very serious injury but Cahallane seems to be playing most games I can't remember his last good one he was the worst player on the field v Limerick last year. One of your best players has opted for football only this year. Anthony Nash who you claim is a way better all round keeper then o Keefe is not even the best keeper in cork. All I can say is roll on June 7
Mountainlad wrote: » In fairness wed a big injury list the day v Kilkenny too. And if they were tired v us, they were hardly fresher a game later with 14 men. Anyway, I agree on Cadogan, Cahalane and JBM is a very good manager. Hes actually working with no underage success there. I think age profile has a lot to do with where they are now, lot of players in their prime. That's fine though, something Cody does a lot just with better players. To be fair though, you did try and make the point earlier in the year that having lost to inter county opposition in those 4 meaningless challenge games and then Limerick in the Waterford crystal that we were really struggling against inter county opposition and all the trouble was still there. Since then we have drawn wtih Clare and Tipp, beaten Tipp and in competitive games drawn with Limerick beaten Wexford and Galway and annihilated the other two teams we've had to play. We actually beat those last two comfortably and still somehow managed to play like Donegal according to the media, scoring 0-22 points, a statement which has me baffled. Anyway, I'd be very disappointed if anyone got anything easy off us the way they did last year. And the replacement of Frank Flannery and William Maher and the outgoing fitness coach doesn't appear to have been a negative move so far.
TyrionPower wrote: » This is waterfords first test, we have played no one yet (Limerick not interested and Galway appalling) l
redlead wrote: » You'd wonder when Waterford are going to get some credit. If we beat Tipp we'll be told it was because of all their injuries. Galway was going to be our first test until we hammered them. Wexford knocked Waterford and Clare out of the championship last year. Galway had two wins in 1a this year. We have to be doing something right; especially when you look at the manner in which we beat these teams. Even Limerick only got a draw because of two ridiculous penalties. I'm not saying we are all Ireland material but credit where it's due.
stumblingblock wrote: » Minor footballers beaten 2-15 to 1-07
PTH2009 wrote: » I thought this was a very good Waterford team ??. Looks like we will have to play Kerry or cork to get to a Munster final I'd we get a bad beating Sunday vs tipp it could define our season. It's expected cork will win the other semi so there confidence will be high come 7th June. Waterford 2015 is a way better organised team than Waterford 2014. Hopefully last year was just a blip and we at least get to an all Ireland quarter final ( beat cork and were in the qfs , Lose and it's a game against a leinster team and then another game to get there). I'd only fear we mite get kilkenny, Dublin or galway if were in the qualifiers.
Deise Vu wrote: » Unfortunately Tipp have withdrawn their appeal to Seamus Callinan's red card. That would have been a real test for our system and Barry Coughlan in particular.
Deskjockey wrote: » You have your wish...@ShaneSaint: Seamus Callanan has won his appeal against a red card and will be available to play against @Waterford on Sunday. Balls
PTH2009 wrote: » at least it will give our back line a test. heard that maurice shan is starting with stephen bennett doing the sub role. Hopefully it wont be a bad sunday
