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Missing irish girl in Scotland Karen Buckley

lukesmom

Her poor parents. Only read about it yesterday but it doesn't look good

http://m.rte.ie/news/2015/0414/693967-karen-buckley/

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Snake Plisken wrote: »

Maybe someone dosed her drink in the club with rohypnol thus the strange out of character behaviour.

This is complete bollix. Tabloid scare mongering.

daisychainsaw

hotmail.com wrote: »

Not knowing the circumstances yet (I hope she is alive), but yes. Every time there is a similar incident where a young woman has been killed, some people, for some strange reason, seem to blame the victim..things like..she was drunk, she shouldn't have been on her own. Rather than actually condemning the perpetrator and telling men to stop killing women. Women shouldn't have to worry about going around on their own, it's never their fault.

They're just analysing her behaviour. Most people agree it's totally normal for students to go out, get drunk or not and go home with someone. There's nothing to blame anyone for yet.

Snake Plisken

Maybe someone dosed her drink in the club with rohypnol thus the strange out of character behaviour.

Rhys Essien

beks101 wrote: »

The fleeing the nightclub with this guy without so much as her jacket. Why? Was she under duress? How did he manage to persuade her to act so out of character when she wasn't even drunk?

I smell a major rat and it's very unsettling.

What springs to mind,was her drink spiked I wonder??.

Being fairly ok one minute and having no control the next.

A Dub in Glasgo

massdebater wrote: »

My family and friends would say it was out of character for me too but it's a token statement and should be taken with a pinch of salt. I've had plenty of nights out where I've gotten the ride, decided afterwards that I'd rather wake up in my own bed and decided to do the 4am walk of shame. Not saying this is what's happened here but it doesn't appear like 'erratic behaviour' from a student.

Are you female?

Strazdas

massdebater wrote: »

My family and friends would say it was out of character for me too but it's a token statement and should be taken with a pinch of salt. I've had plenty of nights out where I've gotten the ride, decided afterwards that I'd rather wake up in my own bed and decided to do the 4am walk of shame. Not saying this is what's happened here but it doesn't appear like 'erratic behaviour' from a student.

Are you a woman or a man, massdebater? There are different factors at work depending on the gender of the person. It's clearly a lot more dangerous for a woman to be wandering along deserted roads or streets at 4am or 5am than for a man (which is why you rarely see a woman on her own at that hour), and it would be especially risky if the woman is inebriated.

hotmail.com

Kristopherus wrote: »

Is there something wrong with that? Who else can posters focus on?

Not knowing the circumstances yet (I hope she is alive), but yes. Every time there is a similar incident where a young woman has been killed, some people, for some strange reason, seem to blame the victim..things like..she was drunk, she shouldn't have been on her own. Rather than actually condemning the perpetrator and telling men to stop killing women. Women shouldn't have to worry about going around on their own, it's never their fault.

Kristopherus

hotmail.com wrote: »

Again the focus on the victim. Unbelievable.

Is there something wrong with that? Who else can posters focus on?

A Dub in Glasgo

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

A tad odd that the guy was not drinking, who drives to a nightclub sober to chat up women.

Amazingly there are people who do not drink. One of the guys who works for me does not drink and used to go out to clubs sober

A Dub in Glasgo

Great Western Road is one of the busiest in Glasgow and would have taken her straight to town (a long walk), could easily have flagged a passing black cab. It is the opposite direction to that Park though

massdebater

Laois_Man wrote: »

Her friends and family have said, via the Police, that it's out of character

My family and friends would say it was out of character for me too but it's a token statement and should be taken with a pinch of salt. I've had plenty of nights out where I've gotten the ride, decided afterwards that I'd rather wake up in my own bed and decided to do the 4am walk of shame. Not saying this is what's happened here but it doesn't appear like 'erratic behaviour' from a student.

JONJO THE MISER

A tad odd that the guy was not drinking, who drives to a nightclub sober to chat up women.

Laois_Man

hotmail.com wrote: »

Erratic implies judgement in my opinion.

She made judgments that were out of character then. Semantics

A Dub in Glasgo

somefeen wrote: »

I heard on the radiotoday that she has since been active on an online account. Facebook, twitter or something
Any more on this?

Statement from the police earlier

“Karen is a lovely girl, close to her family and popular with her friends. She has only been in Glasgow a few months, and if staying out will always let her friends know – hence the real concern here. Like all youngsters, she is also very active on social media but there has been no activity on any of her accounts since Saturday night early Sunday morning. "

http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news/2015/april/update-regarding-missing-person-appeal-karen-buckley

daisychainsaw

If I were at a house, in a pretty run down street, miles away from mine where I'd been for 3 hours and it was pouring down, I wouldn't leave at 4am unless something was seriously wrong. Also, the park is in the opposite direction to the city centre. Presumably she still had her phone in her bag when she left so would look up google maps and know which direction to walk in. Plus, pretty ballsy to walk through the park in the pitch black at 4am, especially for someone who's afraid to take a taxi, why not walk down the street?

hotmail.com

Kristopherus wrote: »

What was it so? She had travelled widely and should have known the ways of the nightime world, according to Mr Kerr.

Again the focus on the victim. Unbelievable.

CZ 453

Something doesn't add up with the dudes story. She left the club at 1am with him in his car. Then at 4am she leaves his house and he doesn't drop her home or back to town.

Ok you could say- He had a drink then when he got home. It's unusual though. You stay off the booze for the night out and then drink when you get home.

Why take someone back to your place in your car then not take that person onwards to their next destination.

Kristopherus

hotmail.com wrote: »

Her behaviour was not erratic.

What was it so? She had travelled widely and should have known the ways of the nightime world, according to Mr Kerr.

Strazdas

massdebater wrote: »

Again, without knowing the girl personally, it's difficult to say what's erratic and what's not but leaving a house at 4am to walk home (regardless of distance) is certainly not unusual. Especially for a student. If this was a 70 year old woman, it's definitely strange but she's a student. I've followed similar steps to this girl plenty of times during my student life. Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary here, until the point where she doesn't arrive home

Do girls normally walk four or five miles at 4am in the morning? Any time I've ever been out at that hour in Dublin, I've never seen a girl on her own wandering along empty roads or streets....they nearly always take a taxi home (I've certainly seen quite a few solo males, but girls are a rarity).

Patsprat

somefeen wrote: »

I heard on the radiotoday that she has since been active on an online account. Facebook, twitter or something
Any more on this?

That would be the police they would get on to the sites asap, I have dealt with this before when some one died suddenly all the friends got a fright , please God she's safe

hotmail.com

Laois_Man wrote: »

Out of character for her.. same thing!

Erratic implies judgement in my opinion.

Laois_Man

hotmail.com wrote: »

Her behaviour was not erratic.

Out of character for her.. same thing!

Laois_Man

massdebater wrote: »

Again, without knowing the girl personally, it's difficult to say what's erratic and what's not but leaving a house at 4am to walk home (regardless of distance) is certainly not unusual. Especially for a student. If this was a 70 year old woman, it's definitely strange but she's a student. I've followed similar steps to this girl plenty of times during my student life. Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary here, until the point where she doesn't arrive home

Her friends and family have said, via the Police, that it's out of character

hotmail.com

Strazdas wrote: »

No, by 'erratic' I mean her leaving the guy's house at 4am and wandering off into the night, even though his house was five miles from where she lived and she didn't call a taxi. Leaving the nightclub without telling her friends was a bit odd too.

You seem to be making the assumption that this is what happened.

hotmail.com

somefeen wrote: »

I heard on the radiotoday that she has since been active on an online account. Facebook, twitter or something
Any more on this?

Those reports were denied by the police.

Bobby Baccala

massdebater wrote: »

Again, without knowing the girl personally, it's difficult to say what's erratic and what's not but leaving a house at 4am to walk home (regardless of distance) is certainly not unusual. Especially for a student. If this was a 70 year old woman, it's definitely strange but she's a student. I've followed similar steps to this girl plenty of times during my student life. Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary here, until the point where she doesn't arrive home

Why not get a lift back to hers off the lad whose house she was in then? Seeing as he drove her there in the first place.

hotmail.com

Laois_Man wrote: »

Being interfered with qualifies as something erratic going on with her.

If you read between the lines, the police say she's too safety conscious to get into a taxi, yet on the other hand they say she got into a complete strangers car to go to his home.

The Police say the guy isn't a suspect yet the pictures show his gaff is cordoned off by the police.

Go figure

Her behaviour was not erratic.

massdebater

Strazdas wrote: »

No, by 'erratic' I mean her leaving the guy's house at 4am and wandering off into the night, even though his house was five miles from where she lived and she didn't call a taxi. Leaving the nightclub without telling her friends was a bit odd too.

Again, without knowing the girl personally, it's difficult to say what's erratic and what's not but leaving a house at 4am to walk home (regardless of distance) is certainly not unusual. Especially for a student. If this was a 70 year old woman, it's definitely strange but she's a student. I've followed similar steps to this girl plenty of times during my student life. Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary here, until the point where she doesn't arrive home

Strazdas

Cold War Kid wrote: »

All I have heard, somefeen, is that she *hasn't* been active on social media since Saturday night - when normally she would be, like lots of 24-year-old girls.

Yep, I've left my coat in a bar/club loads of times after being on the lash. It was 1am, she was probably after a good few drinks.

Nothing unusual about leaving someone of the opposite sex's place at 4am either, when you're starting to feel not so great and want your own leaba.

Wouldn't she call a taxi at least from his house before she left at 4am? Apparently his house is a good five miles from where she lives.

Strazdas

seventeen sheep wrote: »

Ah now, sounds like an average college student on a night out.

If a guy had done similar, few people would be judging him on erratic behaviour.

No, by 'erratic' I mean her leaving the guy's house at 4am and wandering off into the night, even though his house was five miles from where she lived and she didn't call a taxi. Leaving the nightclub without telling her friends was a bit odd too.