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Missing irish girl in Scotland Karen Buckley

lukesmom

Her poor parents. Only read about it yesterday but it doesn't look good

http://m.rte.ie/news/2015/0414/693967-karen-buckley/

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_Whimsical_

somefeen wrote: »

I heard on the radiotoday that she has since been active on an online account. Facebook, twitter or something
Any more on this?

Categorically denied by police was the quote from the news.

michael999999

somefeen wrote: »

I heard on the radiotoday that she has since been active on an online account. Facebook, twitter or something
Any more on this?

That story was not confirmed by police!

Cold War Kid

All I have heard, somefeen, is that she *hasn't* been active on social media since Saturday night - when normally she would be.

massdebater wrote: »

I don't know the girl personally but it all seems like a normal student night out tbh. Girl, drunk, leaves nightclub with guy, forgetting her jacket. Goes back to his. Nothing out of the ordinary there.

She leaves his at 4am. Again, not unusual to leave afterwards, especially if you have work/uni the next day.

Cheap student rathers walking home than paying for taxi. Again, I've done that on nights out and ended up walking for over 90 mins. Nothing overly strange about that.

Girl doesn't arrive home. This, for me, is the first unusual thing. The rest of the story, I've personally encountered a few times. Maybe I'm wrong but there doesn't appear to be anything suspicious about her behaviour during most of this story.

Yep, I've left my coat in a bar/club loads of times after being on the lash. It was 1am, she was probably after a good few drinks.

Nothing unusual about leaving someone of the opposite sex's place at 4am either, when you're starting to feel not so great and want your own leaba.

somefeen

I heard on the radiotoday that she has since been active on an online account. Facebook, twitter or something
Any more on this?

Happyman42

rawn wrote: »

I can't speculate as to why she left with a man without telling her friends. But as others said, maybe she left his house at 4am cos she had a bad feeling, and cos she had no jacket she had no money for a taxi so walked? Probably no phone on her either.

The only person saying she left of her own accord, is the guy. Unless I missed something?
There isn't much point speculating, we only know half or less of the story.

massdebater

I don't know the girl personally but it all seems like a normal student night out tbh. Girl, drunk, leaves nightclub with guy, forgetting her jacket. Goes back to his. Nothing out of the ordinary there.

She leaves his at 4am. Again, not unusual to leave afterwards, especially if you have work/uni the next day.

Cheap student rathers walking home than paying for taxi. Again, I've done that on nights out and ended up walking for over 90 mins. Nothing overly strange about that.

Girl doesn't arrive home. This, for me, is the first unusual thing. The rest of the story, I've personally encountered a few times. Maybe I'm wrong but there doesn't appear to be anything suspicious about her behaviour during most of this story.

case885

michael999999 wrote:

An awful lot of assumptions being made by people here FFS!

Very true, until we hear more information its a guessing game. I really hope she is found safe and well.

rawn

I can't speculate as to why she left with a man without telling her friends. But as others said, maybe she left his house at 4am cos she had a bad feeling, and cos she had no jacket she had no money for a taxi so walked? Probably no phone on her either.

Laois_Man

hotmail.com wrote: »

Out of character then suggests she was interfered with.

Some people focus on the victim's behaviour rather than the perpetrator which I find bizarre.

Anyway, I hope there is a happy outcome.

Being interfered with qualifies as something erratic going on with her.

If you read between the lines, the police say she's too safety conscious to get into a taxi, yet on the other hand they say she got into a complete strangers car to go to his home.

The Police say the guy isn't a suspect yet the pictures show his gaff is cordoned off by the police.

Go figure

michael999999

An awful lot of assumptions being made by people here FFS!

gg2

Has it been confirmed that she didn't know the man she met?

Witchie

I don't mean to speculate but could he have been someone she was seeing and her friends didn't know about him and she left the club without telling them coz she got a text from him? It just seems strange that she left without telling her friends unless she was really really drunk.

She may have woken up and decided she better get home before her friends worried about her.

beks101

The fleeing the nightclub with this guy without so much as her jacket. Why? Was she under duress? How did he manage to persuade her to act so out of character when she wasn't even drunk?

I smell a major rat and it's very unsettling.

hotmail.com

Laois_Man wrote: »

But she's not a guy and when it's out of character as we're told, then it's erratic behavior!

Out of character then suggests she was interfered with.

Some people focus on the victim's behaviour rather than the perpetrator which I find bizarre.

Anyway, I hope there is a happy outcome.

Laois_Man

seventeen sheep wrote: »

Ah now, sounds like an average college student on a night out.

If a guy had done similar, few people would be judging him on erratic behaviour.

But she's not a guy and when it's out of character as we're told, then it's erratic behavior!

Diemos

There something more to this, look at the language used from a very early stage and the high level of police activity again from an early stage.
Even her parents language at the press conference, it's not "Karen come home" it's "if you have any information relating to Karen's whereabouts."
I hope I'm wrong but I don't think this will have a happy ending.

Hitchens

Speaking at a press conference today, Detective Superintendent Jim Kerr, the officer leading the enquiry said:

“As I said this is a missing person enquiry, however, we are gravely concerned that Karen has come to some harm - whether that is due to foul play/criminality or she has taken unwell or had an accident is obviously still to be established.

That is a standard police statement and hopefully she'll be found safe

retro:electro

The poor girl is all I can say. What possessed her to leave his house at 4am? It just doesnt make sense, unless she has a bad feeling about him? It crossed my mind also that it may come out that he has a silver car. If you put the pieces together it doesn't look good.

LynnGrace

I felt for the poor parents, at the press conference. Like others, I can't help thinking of the Jill Meagher case. Poor lass, I hope she will be found, though it seems unlikely, unfortunately.

tinpib

spockety wrote: »

I wonder if it will turn out that he drives a silver car..

Yep, kinda what I was thinking.

A Dub in Glasgo

spockety wrote: »

I wonder if it will turn out that he drives a silver car..

Was thinking that myself earlier

The Black Oil

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'd imagine he probably is a suspect, but I've seen the Polis do it that way before. They don't identify people as suspects until they have something concrete to suspect them of.

It might sound like (armchair detective) police speak for he's on their radar. If you remember the tragic case of the 3 year old boy who went missing in Scotland, the police briefings, even before he was found, almost always stated his mother was being 'very co-operative'. It sounds bad, I thought that was very telling at the time.

Hopefully there is a different outcome here.

spockety

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Nobody has been arrested. The police traced the guy who Karen met at the nightclub, they spoke to him and he said they walked to Church Street (a shot distance away) and they got into his car to his flat in Dorchester Avenue. She spent a few hours there and left to walk back to the City Centre at 4am.

I wonder if it will turn out that he drives a silver car..

seventeen sheep

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes, I was thinking that myself listening to the accounts today. She left the nightclub with a man she had only just met and without even telling her friends and apparently went back to his house for an intimate encounter. She then left his house at 4am and went wandering off into the night.....sounds like the poor girl was behaving very erratically.

Ah now, sounds like an average college student on a night out.

If a guy had done similar, few people would be judging him on erratic behaviour.

Strazdas

Laois_Man wrote: »

Exactly

Nobody would feel safer walking 5K home at 4am than they would getting a taxi there!

Then again, the fact that she voluntarily left the nightclub without telling anyone suggests something erratic was going on with her.

Yes, I was thinking that myself listening to the accounts today. She left the nightclub with a man she had only just met and without even telling her friends and apparently went back to his house for an intimate encounter. She then left his house at 4am and went wandering off into the night.....sounds like the poor girl was behaving very erratically.

A Dub in Glasgo

SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »

sorry thought the first guy got cleared due to his alibi? or am i missing something? a 2nd arrest?

Nobody has been arrested. The police traced the guy who Karen met at the nightclub, they spoke to him and he said they walked to Church Street (a shot distance away) and they got into his car to his flat in Dorchester Avenue. She spent a few hours there and left to walk back to the City Centre at 4am.

[Deleted User]

Poor girl, and her family! I am just back from Glasgow tonight, was there for the past week for work. Anytime I saw anyone that resembled her I had to look twice. Also made sure to get a taxi back to my hotel last night even though it was a 5 minute walk.

I actually really like Glasgow, didn't see it as a "dump" at all. Lovely city. Really nice people and I felt more safe than I do at home in Cork tbh. Until this happened. But these things can happen anywhere.

SpaceSasqwatch

dixiefly wrote: »

Or would there be cctv corroborating the story regarding her leaving at 4am?

sorry thought the first guy got cleared due to his alibi? or am i missing something? a 2nd arrest?

dixiefly

SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »

maybe he has an alibi?

Or would there be cctv corroborating the story regarding her leaving at 4am?

I really feel for the family and her of course. What a call to get from Scotland.

Atlantic Dawn

beks101 wrote: »

I don't understand how this guy is not being called a suspect. What rules him out as a suspect?

No crime has yet been committed, they are unlikely to make any move on him until they have evidence that any foul play has occurred.